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The Aftermath: Lessons from Terri Schiavo’s Life and Death
Breakpoint with Charles Colson ^ | April 5, 2005 | Mark Earley

Posted on 04/05/2005 5:42:20 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback

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To: KDD

"so they could get control of her money."

First they wanted their daughter to be around people who loved her and wanted the best for her. Not shut away to in a dark room for YEARS.


41 posted on 04/06/2005 12:54:51 AM PDT by Gimme
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To: KDD

> The reason the Schwindlers tried to get Michael removed as his wife's guardian was so they could get control of her money.

Your statement shows your abysmal level of knowledge about much of the legal history of Terri's tragic situation.

Some years back HINO offered to transfer Terri's malpractice award to the Schindlers, but in return they would have to consent to withdrawal of her G-tube and death. They refused.

More recently, in a last ditch attempt to save Terri's life, the Schindlers offered to HINO that he could keep all remaining monies in her rehabilitation account, any monies for future book, film and movie offers and rights, and also that they would not pursue any future legal actions concerning the years he prevented any rehabilitation therapy for Terri, if only he'd transfer guardianship control over Terri to either the parents or son Bobby. HINO refused the offer.

So who's the real money-grubbing character in this horrific tragedy? It ain't the Schindlers.

> It started over money and spite...in the end only the spite was left.

Yeah. All HINO's.


42 posted on 04/06/2005 2:10:30 AM PDT by l.tecolote (doing what I can from California)
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To: Irene Adler

I agree with you. Your mother made her wishes known -- and they were not to die (directly) but to directly refuse a specfic treatment. That same logic would, imo, apply even to those who wished tyo starve themselves to teh point of death. With each hour such a person refuses -- directly, clearly and him or herself, not through proxy or prior contract -- refuses to eat. Food is offered, and they refuse it.


43 posted on 04/06/2005 3:45:22 AM PDT by bvw
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To: beckysueb

So, beckysueb, if a vast majority of 28 year-old people affirm that they'd rather die than be bald, the police should reasonably be commanded to shoot to kill any Kojaks amoungst us?


44 posted on 04/06/2005 3:48:52 AM PDT by bvw
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To: beckysueb

My apologies! I see I misunderstood and misread your post. You were quoting KDD about his evil assertion of "resoanble" murder. Please forgive my too quick read and too quick response!


45 posted on 04/06/2005 3:55:04 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

And even then the person should be encouraged to eat -- and in cases where one is dealing with situations of stubborness rather tthan impairment and near-death -- force fed.


46 posted on 04/06/2005 3:57:24 AM PDT by bvw
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To: KDD
I suspect "life news" commissioned it with the questions worded by them so ambiguously as to be meaningless as it relates to the Schiavo case. ... No one's buying it.

It would be fun to compare the poll wording from the various sources. IIRC, the ABC and CBS polls began with the premise that the patient was brain dead and on life support, or the legally false premise that somebody other than the patient gets to choose (e.g., "Who would you rather have make life or death medical decisions for you, your spouse or your parents?"). Some of the exact wording of the Zogby poll questions is below, for your convenience.

Misleading the public, and forming public opinion (and somewaht, public policy) with polls and fake memos is not healthy for freedom.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1375888/posts <-- Link

"If a disabled person is not terminally ill, not in a coma, and not being kept alive on life support, and they have no written directive, should or should they not be denied food and water," the poll asked.

"When there is conflicting evidence on whether or not a patient would want to be on a feeding tube, should elected officials order that a feeding tube be removed or should they order that it remain in place," respondents were asked.

Some 18 percent said the feeding tube should be removed and 42 percent said it should remain in place.

When asked directly about Terri's case and told the her estranged husband Michael "has had a girlfriend for 10 years and has two children with her" 56 percent of Americans believed guardianship should have been turned over to Terri's parents while 37 percent disagreed.


47 posted on 04/06/2005 3:58:13 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: KDD
Just a judgement that is perfectly reasonable given the fact that a vast majority of people affirm that were they Mrs Schiavo, they would hope the Judge would make the same decision on their behalf.

Please provide a citation for that proposition.

48 posted on 04/06/2005 3:59:37 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: supercat
If the poll question had been "Do you believe George Bush is a member of the Templar Council of Zircon V", there probably would have been a similar number of yes votes.

What? Do you mean he's not? Can I call the polling company back and change my response?

Seriously, why would there be a given of ~10% answers going against the majority answer? Is it because people aren't listening to the questions, they're playing jokes, or what?

(How many sentences ending with a question mark can I fit into one post, anyway?)

49 posted on 04/06/2005 4:10:11 AM PDT by exDemMom (Death is beautiful, to those who hate their own lives.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Thank you, Terri, for awakening us to the duty before us: defending human dignity and the sanctity of all human life.

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Amen. I hope some good comes of this tragedy, in the form of laws that will protect others from experiencing what Terri did. I also hope and pray that some day those who can't now understand the cruelty and callousness of what was done, will be able to finally comprehend it.

50 posted on 04/06/2005 10:20:10 AM PDT by trisham
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To: Mr. Silverback

Thank you for posting this. Right on.


51 posted on 04/06/2005 10:21:53 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Rest in Peace, Theresa Marie SCHINDLER - IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!!!!!!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Tell the Media to report the REAL Schiavo polls!

http://capwiz.com/sicminc/issues/alert/?alertid=7351686&type=ME

My account, etc. of Terri Schindler's Funeral Mass:

http://tekgnosis.typepad.com


52 posted on 04/06/2005 11:47:26 AM PDT by pc93 (http://www.blogsforterri.com)
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To: KDD

KDD,

You wrote: "Well I'm happy for you that I don't provoke the apathy in you that I feel for you and your juvenile self righteous rant."

I see that you learned to at least keep your statements brief. It does reduce the risk of spelling errors and grammatical atrocities that abound in your previous confabulation.

Even so, you managed to screw up the useage in your one-liner. You cannot "feel apathy FOR someone," you may merely feel apathetic. In your case, however, pathetic would be a more fitting description of your state.


53 posted on 04/06/2005 12:19:57 PM PDT by terrasol (The fool is not who does not know, but who gives up a chance to grow.)
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To: terrasol

I fart in your general direction.


54 posted on 04/06/2005 2:36:14 PM PDT by KDD (just the facts please)
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To: bvw

No problem. Actually I was in and out of this thread so I just kind of posted and ran so I didn't even see your post till just now.


55 posted on 04/06/2005 3:23:08 PM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: KDD

KDD,

You wrote: "I fart in your general direction."

Good idea. That is probably the one activity you perform passably. Better stick to farting and leave talking to people whose brain does not reside in their colon.


56 posted on 04/06/2005 8:38:47 PM PDT by terrasol (The fool is not who does not know, but who gives up a chance to grow.)
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