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Alert issued on man who took flight lessons at Gwinnett airport
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | April 8, 2005 | SAEED AHMED

Posted on 04/08/2005 3:33:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Authorities have issued an alert for a 35-year-old British man who was taking flight lessons at Gwinnett County Airport-Briscoe Field and allegedly tried to have his pilot rating upgraded despite not being qualified.

In a special alert bulletin sent to law enforcement agencies and aviation facilities this week, the Atlanta Joint Terrorism Task Force said the man, Zayead Christopher Hajaig, became "aggressive" and also tried to have the flight school speed up his training schedule, which began in 2002 and continued off and on for more than two and a half years.

The flight school notified the task force.

The bulletin does not name the flight school or specify what rating Hajaig sought to have upgraded. The special agents handling the investigation could not be reached Thursday night.

An upgrade in rating could mean several things for pilots: it could mean that a pilot is qualified to fly larger and more complex aircrafts, or that a pilot is trained to fly in poor conditions.

Two of the hijackers who crashed airliners into the World Trade Center towers on Sept. 11, 2001, trained at Briscoe Field for a time. Mohamed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi rented a single-engine airplane at the Lawrenceville airport about eight months before the attacks and flew with flight instructors of Advanced Aviation.

The task force bulletin said Hajaig, a British national born in Nigeria, had been in the United States illegally. He had no known means of income and used calling cards to communicate with associates, the bulletin said.

Authorities believe Hajaig may have left the country once he found out he had been reported to the task force. The task force alerted the Federal Aviation Administration, had Hajaig placed on the "no fly" list, and notified authorities in the United Kingdom, where Hajaig is believed to have fled.

The bulletin was sent to airports and flights schools statewide so that Hajaig is not able to rent aircrafts, fly from or take lessons anywhere, the bulletin said.

Anyone who comes in contact with Hajaig — who also uses the names Christopher Haijag, David Haijag and Alex Haiaig — is asked to call the Atlanta taskforce at 404-679-9000.


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1 posted on 04/08/2005 3:33:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I am impressed that it only took 2.5 years, 2002-2004, before the Homeland Security kicked into action. Please tell me why we needed another trillion $$$ Agency....was this a jobs program? The AJC reporting is also very weak!


2 posted on 04/08/2005 3:45:25 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The guy sounds dumber than a rock.

I'm an instructor, and from this information, it appears that he was enrolled in the type of flight school that has periodic "phase checks" that must be passed to move to the next level of training.

Typically, these schools all aim for an ATP certification, that is, Airline Transport Pilot.

This fine example of a normal guy should have been reported from the very beginning, and I am dismayed that he was not.

Can you imagine boarding an Airbus and hearing the announcement, "Hello, I'm Zayead Christopher Hajaig, and I'll be your pilot today?"

What I don't understand is how an illegal got into a flight school without a valid passport, a student visa issued by the US, and a background check.

All are now required.
3 posted on 04/08/2005 3:48:14 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

"...Zayead Christopher Hajaig..."

You know, who WOULDN'T feel comfortable flying with someone who has a nice Irish name like that...


4 posted on 04/08/2005 3:51:04 AM PDT by baltodog (R.I.P. Balto: 2001(?) - 2005)
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To: iopscusa

Shocking. It took only one post for someone to mock a system doing what it's supposed to be doing.


5 posted on 04/08/2005 3:52:01 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: iopscusa
The AJC reporting is also very weak!

Um... yeah, what did you expect?

6 posted on 04/08/2005 3:54:56 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Certified Horticulturist
Zayead Christopher Hajaig

what year did this muslim add a Christian name to his..British huh

7 posted on 04/08/2005 3:55:10 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; MAK1179; briansb
"...who also uses the names Christopher Haijag, David Haijag and Alex Haiaig

Do I denote a sense of humor in this perp? Maybe he just liked the "I'm in charge here" quote. :-)

8 posted on 04/08/2005 3:55:46 AM PDT by Lloyd227 (American Forces armed with what? Spit balls?)
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To: Coop

The system is supposed to allow an illegal alien with no known means of income to take flight lessons in the United States for more than two and a half years?


9 posted on 04/08/2005 3:57:10 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: ordinaryguy
The system is supposed to allow an illegal alien with no known means of income to take flight lessons in the United States for more than two and a half years?

And how do we know all that?

10 posted on 04/08/2005 3:58:45 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Coop

From the article.


11 posted on 04/08/2005 4:01:07 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I propose that Congress pass a new law - no one whose first name is Zayead is allowed to take flight training in the United States.


12 posted on 04/08/2005 4:01:20 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: ordinaryguy
From the article.

Correct. And the author of said article knows all this because...

the system worked and the flight school reported the guy.

13 posted on 04/08/2005 4:03:14 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: ordinaryguy; Coop

No, it's not, and I'm calling around today to find out exactly what happened here.
Being familar with the FAA, it will take a long time for answers.

Coop: It is in the article cited.


14 posted on 04/08/2005 4:05:25 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Coop

If an illegal alien was allowed to be receiving flight instruction in this country, then the system most certainly did not work. Unless you and I are referring to two entirely separate systems.


15 posted on 04/08/2005 4:05:56 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: bill1952

And the system did NOT work.

By law, he should have never been permitted to enroll!

Many good students get their ticket in less than 2 1/2 years.

This guy was dumb, and we lucked out in some fashion.


16 posted on 04/08/2005 4:08:16 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: ordinaryguy

See, you apparently just want to throw darts at anything and everything, while I'm glad to see some improvement. Kind of a glass half full kind of philosophy, while you're more of a pee in the glass person.


17 posted on 04/08/2005 4:08:47 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"AN UPGRADE" !!!! Why would that case an alert? He needs a job.


18 posted on 04/08/2005 4:11:03 AM PDT by -=Wing_0_Walker=-
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To: bill1952

If you find anything out, I'd appreciate a ping. Thanks.


19 posted on 04/08/2005 4:13:22 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: Coop

I certainly don't want to throw darts, Coop, but if an illegal can take flight lessons for *only* 2 1/2 years before being reported, then you had best keep out of tall buildings.

Any illegal who wanted flight lessons from me would be talking to Customs in about 15 seconds, and I'm not kidding.

If you had the bucks for simulator time, and the smarts, you would be able to handle a triple 7 in way less time than that.


20 posted on 04/08/2005 4:18:02 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: ordinaryguy

Sure. :)


21 posted on 04/08/2005 4:19:21 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952; Coop

Is it possible he had falsified papers?


22 posted on 04/08/2005 4:23:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
In a special alert bulletin sent to law enforcement agencies and aviation facilities this week, the Atlanta Joint Terrorism Task Force said the man, Zayead Christopher Hajaig, became "aggressive" and also tried to have the flight school speed up his training schedule, which began in 2002 and continued off and on for more than two and a half years.

The Lazamataz Pilot-Training Law: "No person with a name that could reasonably be considered Arabic shall be trained on any aircraft, nor may said person purchase flight simulator games. Violation of this act is a Class C Felony."

23 posted on 04/08/2005 4:25:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Cleverly Arranging 1's And 0's Since 11110111011...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why is this flight school still open?


24 posted on 04/08/2005 4:27:45 AM PDT by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
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To: Coop

You chose to throw darts at someone for mocking a system which most certainly is not working. You claimed that the system was "doing what it's supposed to be doing." Please explain how the system was "doing what it's supposed to be doing." when an illegal alien was recieving flight instruction. If you can do that, without dragging your bathroom references into the discussion, then I'd be very interested in hearing your thoughts.


25 posted on 04/08/2005 4:31:09 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I suppose he could have a fake passport, and a fake student visa, but those papers are suppossed to be filed with, and checked immediately by Customs, in addition to the copies I keep.

I just walk to the office, since Customs is about 50 feet away.

Most of these larger operations are located at international airports, international meaning that there is a customs office on the airport.

If he had fake papers I would feel better than knowing that he had none.

Well, off to work.


26 posted on 04/08/2005 4:33:34 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The task force bulletin said Hajaig, a British national born in Nigeria, had been in the United States illegally. He had no known means of income and used calling cards to communicate with associates, the bulletin said.

So much for the billions and billions of dollars spent on security to make the sheeple feel safe.

27 posted on 04/08/2005 4:34:45 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: bill1952

Bill,

I'd also like a ping, please, if you come up with some additional data on this guy. Coop may believe otherwise, but I'm with the majority here - the system did NOT work . . . . . at least not in the way that I believe that it was intended.

By the same token, I see on Drudge that the TSA is dismantling - long overdue. IMO, it should never have "mantled" except that Bush caved to a stupid challenge issued by Daschle. Hopefully, we will soon see the last of this pointless and bloated agency.


28 posted on 04/08/2005 4:35:21 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: baltodog

Can the Christopher be for real?


29 posted on 04/08/2005 4:40:31 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Prince Charles
So much for the billions and billions of dollars spent on security to make the sheeple feel safe.

Maybe they'll give us a token orange alert for a couple of days.

30 posted on 04/08/2005 4:44:30 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: iconoclast

Or maybe they'll use it as an excuse to clamp down on general aviation.


31 posted on 04/08/2005 4:47:09 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: ordinaryguy
You chose to throw darts at someone for mocking a system which most certainly is not working. You claimed that the system was "doing what it's supposed to be doing." Please explain how the system was "doing what it's supposed to be doing." when an illegal alien was recieving flight instruction. If you can do that, without dragging your bathroom references into the discussion, then I'd be very interested in hearing your thoughts.

That's right, I did and will continue to do so. You act as if there's something surprising here, that our country has work to do regarding illegal immigrants. Well, duh! But instead of saying "Thank God they finally put out an alert!" it took about five seconds for someone to start mocking the DHS and its "trillion" dollar budget.

They're making improvements to a faulty system. They're doing more to protect our country than you are by mocking their efforts.

32 posted on 04/08/2005 4:52:00 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta; DAVEY CROCKETT; WestCoastGal; jerseygirl; SevenofNine; Tuba Guy; ...

Ping


33 posted on 04/08/2005 4:57:52 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (Airspeed, altitude, or brains. Two are required to successfully complete a flight.)
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To: iopscusa
I am impressed that it only took 2.5 years, 2002-2004, before the Homeland Security kicked into action.

Could you please expand on that a little or give a link?

Thanks.

34 posted on 04/08/2005 5:00:37 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Coop
No, I'm not going to heap praise on them for issuing an alert.

An illegal alien should not have been receiving flight training here. Apparently, if he had wrapped up his training in a timely manner, or had kept his temper in check, he would never have been flagged.

If you aren't familiar with how things are supposed to work, you might want to start with https://www.flightschoolcandidates.gov/. Please note that the page claims:

"The mission of the Alien Flight Student Program is to ensure that Non-U.S. Citizen candidates seeking training at flight schools regulated by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) do not pose a threat to aviation or national security."

The mission is not to ensure that an alert is issued out of sheer luck. The mission is to work pro-actively to prevent threats to and from our nation's aviation system. Judging from the information in the article posted here, the mission was failed.

I would suggest that those who point out that the system failed are doing far more service to their country than you are, by making excuses for incompetence and accepting mediocrity.

35 posted on 04/08/2005 5:11:03 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: ordinaryguy

I'm not accepting mediocrity or incompetence. (Hence my quick reaction to your post!) I just know this system has been overwhelmed for years, long before the DHS ever existed, so I'm not going to be casting stones at those government personnel trying to improve things.


36 posted on 04/08/2005 5:13:05 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

See how damn easy it is to sneak in and out of this country? It's just a matter of time before the next 911 happens (I hope I am wrong), and Bushs' legacy will be forever tanished as the man who refused to protect our borders.


37 posted on 04/08/2005 5:15:30 AM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida (Ooorahhhh........Get Some! Semper Fi')
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To: Coop

Have you read the regulations concerning non-citizens receiving flight training? Do you know the procedures to be followed? Have you been throught flight training yourself?


38 posted on 04/08/2005 5:16:32 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: All

Where's his PICTURE??


39 posted on 04/08/2005 5:19:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: ordinaryguy

Yes. Please tell me how FAA FARs have anything to do with the Department of Homeland Security.


40 posted on 04/08/2005 5:22:06 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Elsie

41 posted on 04/08/2005 5:22:12 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: ordinaryguy

And no, I haven't been through flight training. Have you had a hysterectomy? That question seems about as relevant as yours.


42 posted on 04/08/2005 5:23:36 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Coop
'Yes' what? I asked several questions.

Please tell me how the Department of Homeland Security has anything to do with the case of Zayead Hajaig. What exactly did DHS do that you feel was commendable?

43 posted on 04/08/2005 5:33:36 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: ordinaryguy

Re-read the thread.


44 posted on 04/08/2005 5:34:51 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Coop
If you had been through flight training, you would have some insight into how the whole thing works. It certainly is relevant, as we are discussing the operation of flight schools.

If we were discussing gynecological procedures, then asking about hysterectomies would be in order. We aren't.

45 posted on 04/08/2005 5:37:21 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: Coop
I've read the thread, but thanks for the invitation. You don't seem to be very willing to answer questions.
46 posted on 04/08/2005 5:38:55 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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To: Coop
And no, I haven't been through flight training. Have you had a hysterectomy?

No, but I did sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
47 posted on 04/08/2005 5:39:36 AM PDT by Mad Mammoth
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To: iopscusa

Excuse me, but any private pilot will be happy to tell you that there is no terrorist threat posed from the smaller GA airstrips.


48 posted on 04/08/2005 6:00:08 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: ordinaryguy
re: If you had been through flight training, you would have some insight into how the whole thing works.)))

Gee, it only takes a minute or two for the sharp elbows to start moving. Pilots.

49 posted on 04/08/2005 6:03:33 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

bump

ping


50 posted on 04/08/2005 6:28:15 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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