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A Pessah sacrifice in Jerusalem
Jerusalem Post ^ | Apr. 8, 2005 | Mati Wagner

Posted on 04/08/2005 9:46:25 AM PDT by Alouette

Thought about sacrificing a paschal lamb this year? Many of the hundreds – perhaps more than a thousand including the women – who gathered Thursday night at the Western Wall to march a circle around the Temple Mount believe it can become a reality – if not this year in Jerusalem, next.

So do many of the hundreds who will gather on Sunday to demonstrate against the police decision to close the Temple Mount to Jews.

"Today all we want is the right to pray on the Temple Mount," said Rabbi Yishai Ba'avad, secretary of The Institute for the Establishment of the Temple. "But this is just the first stage to realizing every Jew's aspiration to see the Temple rebuilt and the sacrificial worship renewed."

Rabbi Yossi Peli of the Samarian settlement Yitzhar, said he organizes a Sivuv She'arim [march around the Temple Mount] every month to express Jewish yearning to pray on the Temple Mount, renew animal sacrifices and see the rebuilding of the Temple. "As soon as there is real Jewish leadership in Israel, one of the first decisions will be to rebuild the Temple," said Peli.

"I think the majority of people in Israel really want it deep down. If they weren't so addicted to their daily infusion of media junk from that little noisy box, they would awaken from their stupor and demand it," he added.

Similar thoughts were expressed by David Ivri, a follower of Rabbi Meir Kahane and one of the heads of Revava, an organization based in Tapuach that is spearheading a civil disobedience campaign against disengagement.

Revava attempted to organize a 10,000-strong mass Jewish prayer on the Temple Mount on Sunday – Rosh Chodesh Nissan. However, police prohibited the gathering.

Many leading religious Zionist rabbis are opposed to entering the Temple Mount citing halachic concerns. According to Halacha, all Jews are terminally defiled by the impurity of death [tumat met] as long as the cure to this condition – a Red Heifer burned to ashes and mixed with spring water – is unavailable. In this condition it is forbidden to enter the innermost parts of what was the Temple. Special maps must be used to navigate the Mount.

Even the more external parts of the Temple are off limits unless one immerses in a ritual bath before entering.

But most rabbis oppose entering the mount for theological, not halachic, motives. Sources close to Rabbi Avraham Shapira, perhaps the most important halachic authority among religious Zionist rabbis, say he insists on keeping the issue theoretical and persuades his students from actually entering the Temple Mount, although he has encouraged learning the laws involved with the Temple.

"Rabbi Shapira does not want to whip up messianic fervor," said one source.

Rabbi Ya'acov Ariel, chief rabbi of Ramat Gan, who was the religious Zionist camp's choice for chief rabbi of Israel against elected Chief Rabbi Yonah Metzger, said this generation is not yet ready.

"Renewing animal sacrifices and building the Temple depends on the spiritual level of the entire Jewish nation," said Ariel. "It makes no sense to talk about it at a time of glaring socioeconomic inequalities in Israeli society, at a time when Shabbat is openly desecrated and hametz [leavened bread] is served in public places.

"If there is no family sanctity, it is inconceivable that there can be a Temple," he said, explaining that unlike most commandments, those connected with the Temple are collective in nature. "Only when the majority of Jews living in Israel are observant and God-fearing can we begin to conceive of rebuilding the Temple."

Still, Ariel adamantly supports entering the Temple Mount to pray. So do the vast majority of the rabbis of the Council of Jewish Communities in Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip, expect for Rabbi Zalman Melamed and Rabbi Shlomo Aviner.

As Ariel put it, "we must not abandon the holiest place on earth for the Jewish people. It is a horrible injustice that a Jew cannot pray there".

There is a cabinet decision, dating back to August 1967, just a few months after the Western Wall was taken by the IDF, initiated by then-defense minister Moshe Dayan, prohibiting Jewish prayer on the Temple Mount. At the time the vast majority of rabbis, including religious Zionist rabbis, opposed prayer there.

But opinions are gradually changing. Rabbi David Dudkevitch, 43, rabbi of Yitzhar and considered the spiritual leader of the "hilltop youth", said that every Jew should strive to observe every one of the 613 biblical commands, including those connected with the building of the Temple.

"The fact that many Jews do not adhere to the Torah commandments should not stop me from trying to bring about the building of the Temple," said Dudkevitch during the march around the Temple Mount Thursday night.

The rebuilding of the Temple was a central tenet of religious Zionism from its very beginning. Over 150 years ago Rabbi Tzvi Kalisher, the forefather of religious Zionism, sparked a debate with two of the most important halachic opinions of his time, Rabbi Akiva Eiger and Rabbi Moshe Sofer [the Chatam Sofer], when he suggested purchasing the Temple Mount and renewing animal sacrifices.

Eiger and Sofer did not rule out the idea of renewing animal sacrifices. They merely pointed to a number of technicalities, including the difficulty of purchasing the Temple Mount from Ottoman authorities.

In fact, that is what foiled the plan. Both Asher Anshel Rothschild and Sir Moshe Montefiore, two of the most sympathetic Zionist supporters of the time, turned down the idea.

Nevertheless, many religious Jews point to this historic incident as proof that if not for fear of the political ramifications resulting from such a move, it would be possible to bring a Pessah sacrifice this year, and if not this year, perhaps next.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: jerusalem; passover; pesach; templemount
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1 posted on 04/08/2005 9:46:25 AM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 04/08/2005 9:46:47 AM PDT by Alouette (If I owned Hell and I owned Brooklyn, I'd live in Hell and rent out Brooklyn.)
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To: Alouette; agrace
Thought about sacrificing a paschal lamb this year? Many of the hundreds – perhaps more than a thousand including the women – who gathered Thursday night at the Western Wall to march a circle around the Temple Mount believe it can become a reality – if not this year in Jerusalem, next.

Wouldn't that be something!!!

Thanks for the ping to this interesting article Alouette.

3 posted on 04/08/2005 9:53:16 AM PDT by lupie
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4 posted on 04/08/2005 10:07:48 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Bump Annie.. interesting article


5 posted on 04/08/2005 10:12:02 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: lupie
Wouldn't that be something!!!

Yeah it would be "something" alright.

An defunct old testament ritual being performed as another tactic in fruitless battle between two religions misguidedly trapped in the old covenant.

Meanwhile certain scriputrally/spiritually challenged evangelicals will view this disaster and say "isn't that just lovely".

6 posted on 04/08/2005 10:22:08 AM PDT by AAABEST (Kyrie eleison - Christe eleison †)
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To: Alouette

By what authority does Rabbi Ba'avad have the right to speak on behalf of "every Jew"? Was there a vote that I missed? Or perhaps the Lord Himself told Ba'avad that he was in charge (although He apparently neglected to inform anyone else on this decision). Now, I can only claim to speak for myself, but this particular Jew has ZERO interest in the restoration of animal sacrifices. I'll stick to the customs of the last 2000 years and just go to shul on Yom Kippur, thank you very much.


7 posted on 04/08/2005 10:24:00 AM PDT by Natty Boh
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To: Alouette

Why can't a lamb be sacrificed at one's home? Abraham and Jacob sacrificed wherever they saw fit to do so. As long as it's made of earth or un-hewn stones, a sacrificial altar can be anywhere, can't it?..........


8 posted on 04/08/2005 10:30:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Entrepreneurs find a need and fill it. Politicians create a need and fill it........)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Thanks for the ping!


9 posted on 04/08/2005 10:31:41 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl (Please donate monthly to Free Republic!)
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To: AAABEST
I hope you're prepared to take up your "defunct old testament ritual" objections with the "Prince" who'll be offering sacrifices in the millennial temple as revealed to Ezekiel. He might not set a place for you at the table.

Noah's flood wasn't pleasant either, but perhaps you regard that as figurative and allegorical along with the millennial kingdom and acharit ha yamim.

10 posted on 04/08/2005 10:44:45 AM PDT by yatros from flatwater
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To: Red Badger
Abraham and Jacob sacrificed wherever they saw fit to do so. As long as it's made of earth or un-hewn stones, a sacrificial altar can be anywhere, can't it?..........

After the Temple was built, sacrifices could not be brought anywhere else. However the Passover sacrifice could be made anywhere within the city of Jerusalem.

After the Temple was destroyed, the rabbis declared that prayers should take the place of sacrifices.

Over the past several years, some rabbis have decided that the Passover sacrifices may resume. This is problematic because even if some Jews bring it, then everyone is required to bring it.

11 posted on 04/08/2005 10:50:28 AM PDT by Alouette (If I owned Hell and I owned Brooklyn, I'd live in Hell and rent out Brooklyn.)
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To: Natty Boh
I'll stick to the customs of the last 2000 years and just go to shul on Yom Kippur

According to the customs of the last 2000 years, Jews attend shul more frequently than once a year.

12 posted on 04/08/2005 10:51:56 AM PDT by Alouette (If I owned Hell and I owned Brooklyn, I'd live in Hell and rent out Brooklyn.)
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To: Alouette

"According to the customs of the last 2000 years, Jews attend shul more frequently than once a year".

They sure do, and not single time do they ritually slaughter a single animal (unless you count the mounds of lox that are consumed at the Men's Club on Sundays). But the modern Yom Kippur service replaces the whole animal sacrifice thing and achieves the same atonement for sins deal, which was why I mentioned it.


13 posted on 04/08/2005 11:01:58 AM PDT by Natty Boh
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To: Alouette

It would present a huge problem. There are now literally millions more Jews than there ever were in Isreal in the Temple's time. If they were to all be required to bring a sacrificial lamb to the City, then the logistics alone would be inconcievable. The smokes would cover the entire city (would smell really good, though). The lambs would have to already be there for the event because of quarantine of importation animals. I can imagine the day of major sacrifices in the ancient days were extremely packed with people, animals and continuous flow of blood and scarificial smoke. I couldn't even begin to imagine the chaos of trying to resume sacrifices in today's political climate. PETA would go berserk. The VEGANS would be up in arms. The PA would be baffeled.......


14 posted on 04/08/2005 11:02:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (Entrepreneurs find a need and fill it. Politicians create a need and fill it........)
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To: Alouette

Isn't the Pesach sacrifice on the order of a peace offering, and meant to be consumed by the offerer's family and guests; in reality, a sanctified feast?


15 posted on 04/08/2005 11:03:39 AM PDT by yatros from flatwater
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To: Natty Boh
the modern Yom Kippur service replaces the whole animal sacrifice thing

Technically the modern Yom Kippur service replaces the Yom Kippur sacrifice. The modern Shacharis, Minchah and Maariv services replace the daily sacrifices, and so forth.

You're just a slacker. ;)

16 posted on 04/08/2005 11:09:13 AM PDT by Alouette (If I owned Hell and I owned Brooklyn, I'd live in Hell and rent out Brooklyn.)
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To: Alouette
Bashanah hazo't biYrushalayim habenuyah!
17 posted on 04/08/2005 11:16:41 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayivra' 'Eloqim 'et Ha'Adam betzalmo, betzelem 'Eloqim bara' 'oto; zakhar uneqevah bara' 'otam.)
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To: Alouette

If I weren't a slacker, would I be posting to FR in the middle of the working day?


18 posted on 04/08/2005 11:21:56 AM PDT by Natty Boh
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To: yatros from flatwater
I hope you're prepared to take up your "defunct old testament ritual" objections with the "Prince" who'll be offering sacrifices in the millennial temple as revealed to Ezekiel. He might not set a place for you at the table.

Given the fact that He's the second person of the Triune God, He can do whatever it is that pleases Him, including the creation of a new and everlasting convenant - which IMO is the only hope for the insane asylum known as the Middle East, both in a spiritual and temporal sense.

Putting religion aside for a moment, does anyone believe that this sort of nonsense (from both sides) is productive or logical?

19 posted on 04/08/2005 11:22:21 AM PDT by AAABEST (Kyrie eleison - Christe eleison †)
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To: yatros from flatwater; AAABEST
I hope you're prepared to take up your "defunct old testament ritual" objections with the "Prince" who'll be offering sacrifices in the millennial temple as revealed to Ezekiel. He might not set a place for you at the table.

Noah's flood wasn't pleasant either, but perhaps you regard that as figurative and allegorical along with the millennial kingdom and acharit ha yamim.

You're wasting your time. AAABEST's attitude towards the "defunct old testament ritual" is illustrative of the traditional Catholic attitude towards the entire Hebrew Bible. Everything's an allegory and nothing's to be taken literally (and of course, all the prophecies about Israel restored and the Temple rebuilt are "spiritualized" into a "prophecy" about the church!).

No wonder the Catholic Church so promotes evolutionism and higher criticism.

But don't worry. AAABEST's church and all the liturgical supercessionist churches are collapsing in liberalism. Meanwhile, I suggest he simply stay off of threads that disturb him.

20 posted on 04/08/2005 11:23:15 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayivra' 'Eloqim 'et Ha'Adam betzalmo, betzelem 'Eloqim bara' 'oto; zakhar uneqevah bara' 'otam.)
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