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Confusing political terms - (what is a "moderate?")
RENEW AMERICA.US ^ | APRIL 8, 2005 | EDWARD L. DALEY

Posted on 04/08/2005 1:50:03 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Can someone please explain to me what a moderate is, in political terms? Most Americans are able to agree on the general attributes of liberals and conservatives, but what constitutes a moderate?

Is a moderate someone who espouses, in relatively equal proportions, both liberal and conservative views, or is the term more indicative of a general attitude than a set of ideological principles?

It just so happens that I know several people who call themselves moderates, and I wouldn't consider any of them to be evenly split ideologically. They are either mostly liberal or mostly conservative, so I can only assume that the term is meant to apply to their demeanors... that is, I WOULD assume such if they weren't just as confrontational and unyielding in their opinions as I am.

Could it be that I too am a moderate, and I just never realized it before?

Okay, you can stop laughing now.

To be honest with you, I've yet to figure out what's so moderate about these folks, but if they say they're moderates, who am I to tell them they're not? After all, I'm lucky if I can make it through the week without someone calling me a radical, right-wing lunatic... and that's just among my immediate family members.

I often hear leftists decry the "extremist" views of right-wingers like myself, and frankly, it irritates the hell out of me, yet I must admit that there's just as many people on the right who have no problem responding in kind. The fundamental differences in ideology which separate the left and the right, tend to breed that sort of rhetoric. So be it.

Of course liberals and conservatives often consider each other to be extreme. That's only natural, because to many people, an extremist is someone whose views are so contrary to their own core beliefs that they cannot even begin to understand the rationale behind them.

Many other people think of extremists as those individuals whose opinions are only held by a small percentage of the population. To them, if a person doesn't agree with the contentions of the overwhelming majority, their views must be extreme.

The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language defines an extremist as "one who advocates or resorts to measures beyond the norm." That's all well and good, I suppose, but in this day and age, I can think of few tactics which are not widely accepted by people on both sides of the political fence.

Sure, most people would agree that resorting to violent acts in order to further a political agenda is extreme behavior, but aside from assassination attempts, terrorist acts, riotous demonstrations or open revolution, there is very little that's "beyond the norm" in today's political world.

So how should we define extremism in the year 2005, once the aspect of violent behavior has been removed from the equation? To tell you the truth, I have no idea, and I've been following politics for most of my adult life.

One of my moderate friends once told me that she considered lying about one's political opponents to be an extreme measure, until I asserted that lying is to politics as crying is to a maternity ward. And while I do not condone intentionally misleading people, the practice certainly isn't out of the ordinary in political circles.

She also wasn't able to clarify for me what a moderate is. To this day I still don't know, although the same dictionary I used to look up the word extremist, relates that moderates are "opposed to radical or extreme views or measures."

Heck, that's not very helpful, is it? I mean, if you can't even nail down what extremism is, how are you supposed to know who's opposed to it?

Still, if you think about the word moderate in its most generic sense, there are few Americans who couldn't reasonably refer to themselves as moderates, since the majority of us don't go around killing government officials, or advocating violence against our political opponents. Yet, at the same time, any one of us could just as easily be considered an extremist by someone whose definition of that word happens to differ from our own.

When you get right down to it, what mostly separates the moderate from the extremist is individual perspective. Practically everyone has an ethical or moral line that they refuse to cross, and when somebody else steps over your line, you're likely to think of their behavior as extreme. Keep in mind, however, that no matter where yours may lie, you've probably stepped over someone else's line on your way there.

Edward Daley was born to American parents on a U.S. military base in Stephenville, Newfoundland, Canada, and moved to the United States as an infant. He became active in politics in 1984--the first year he was old enough to vote for the President of the United States. Currently he is the full-time caregiver to his elderly father and a landlord of rental property. Edward has been a salesman, bar doorman, typesetter, and security guard. He is a college graduate with a number of hobbies and interests, including reading, writing poetry and short stories, web designing, watching professional football, and drinking 12-year-old single malt scotch. He currently lives in Thomaston, Maine.

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1 posted on 04/08/2005 1:50:05 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE
what constitutes a moderate?

Someone with no convictions.

2 posted on 04/08/2005 1:52:05 PM PDT by My2Cents (America is divided along issues of morality, between the haves and the have-nots.)
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To: CHARLITE

The MSM definition of a "moderate" is Stalin.


3 posted on 04/08/2005 1:52:31 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: CHARLITE
I'm a moderate. I'm against hanging liberals with hemp ropes - it's cruel.

Sisal. That's the trick.

4 posted on 04/08/2005 1:52:37 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: CHARLITE
"A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it."

- GK Chesterton
Everlasting Man, 1925

5 posted on 04/08/2005 1:56:01 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: CHARLITE

I thought a moderate was someone who accepts anything printed in the New York Times at face value.


6 posted on 04/08/2005 1:56:17 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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To: CHARLITE

There are two kinds of moderates. Those who beieve the lies of the left on domestic issues and those who believe the lies of the left on international issues.


7 posted on 04/08/2005 1:56:20 PM PDT by Killborn (Liberals. The greatest threat to mankind, morality, civilization, cute puppies and fuzzy bunnies.)
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To: CHARLITE
Can someone please explain to me what a moderate is, in political terms? Most Americans are able to agree on the general attributes of liberals and conservatives, but what constitutes a moderate?

Depends who is defining it. The MSM defines someone who has 90% core liberal values and 10% conservative values, a 'moderate', with the exception no one who is pro-life is ever a moderate. If Ted Kennedy for some odd reason became pro-life, he would be a 'conservative' by the MSM definition.

8 posted on 04/08/2005 1:56:25 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: CHARLITE

A moderate is someone who is to embarrassed to call themselves a liberal.


9 posted on 04/08/2005 1:57:37 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (What're you looking at?)
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To: CHARLITE

Mom catches her little boy playing with himself in the bathroom.
Mom says "You keep doing that you'll go blind !"
Boy thinks a minute and says "Can I do it until I need glasses?"

Little boy is a moderate.


10 posted on 04/08/2005 2:00:34 PM PDT by stylin19a (Always remember - don't ever forget - "2 wrongs don't make a right, it's 3 lefts that make a right.")
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To: My2Cents
Someone with no convictions.

With one and only one exception: All moderates are convinced that abortion should always and everywhere be legal and readily available.

11 posted on 04/08/2005 2:04:12 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: My2Cents
what constitutes a moderate?

A Liberal is a person who doesn't need a MSM poll to verify his or her stupidity. A moderate is a Liberal that needs a MSM poll before demonstrating his or her stupidity.

12 posted on 04/08/2005 2:05:22 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: Billthedrill

Naw, just light the hemp rope on fire just before. They're going up in a puff of smoke so to speak.


13 posted on 04/08/2005 2:06:56 PM PDT by Modok
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Can you say that anyone who isn't a Conservative is a Liberal regardless of what they want to call themselves?


14 posted on 04/08/2005 2:08:08 PM PDT by Borges
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

There are also self-proclaimed "moderates" who actually agree with the conservatives on many things but have been brainwashed into believing that conservatives are meanspirited, closeminded, and bad, and therefore won't use the word and will admit to agreeing with conservatives only if cleverly pinned down in private conversation. I know quite a few of this type of "moderate."


15 posted on 04/08/2005 2:08:42 PM PDT by VRWCisme
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To: CHARLITE

"A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel." ~ Robert Frost


16 posted on 04/08/2005 2:09:59 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: CHARLITE
Can someone please explain to me what a moderate is, in political terms?

Someone with little (or no) deep convictions who tests the political winds before making ANY public statement on a sensitive issue!
17 posted on 04/08/2005 2:11:07 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: CHARLITE
A moderate is someone who is able to see BOTH sides of an issue and cannot commit to EITHER side.

That's because they would topple off their perch on their fence and rip themselves a 'new one' from that picket up their butts.

18 posted on 04/08/2005 2:11:16 PM PDT by mommadooo3
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To: CHARLITE

An appeaser who waits for the world around him to define him.


19 posted on 04/08/2005 2:12:24 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: leprechaun9

I don't think I agree with that. There are various issues in the political landscape. You can be conservative on some and liberal on others. Say anti-abortion but also anti Death Penalty. Against Affirmative action but for Public education. There are all sorts of combinations. There are anti-abortion people who believe anyone who isn't with them on that core issue is not conservative no matter how small they want the government to be.


20 posted on 04/08/2005 2:14:07 PM PDT by Borges
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