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Acclaimed Cuban Medical Care a Sham
NewsMax ^ | 4/10/05 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 04/10/2005 6:22:29 PM PDT by wagglebee

Listening to the New York Times or Hollywood's contingent of wide-eyed Castro worshippers you'd get the idea that medical care in Castro's Cuba makes America's healthcare system look like a third world system.

Such claims are pure myth.

Dr. Hilda Molina, one of Cuba's top neurosurgeons, a one-time member of the Cuban parliament, and a confidant of Fidel Castro, made the mistake of criticizing her nation's medical care system.

Molina exposed Cuba's two-tier medical system that enabled rich foreigners to come in for treatment at first-class facilities in Cuba, paying in dollars, while ordinary Cubans got some of the most atrocious medical care on the planet.

According to The American Thinker magazine, Molina was seriously punished for her revelations, as well as objecting to Castro's fetal stem-cell research program on the grounds of conscience.

In the end, she lost her job, her parliament position, her livelihood and everything she'd worked for.

"Last December, she tried to leave Cuba to visit her Argentinian son, his wife and their children," the Thinker reported. "There was a showdown at the Argentinian Embassy and much to its disgrace, the Argentines refused to give her a visa, shoving her back to Castro's waiting agents on the outside. Nothing has been heard from her since."

Dr. Molina was not alone in decrying the shabby state of medical care inflicted on ordinary Cubans under Castro. The American Thinker cited a Cuban source that took on the issue head-on.

Wrote the Cuban source, babalublog.com "Every single time the island of Cuba and Fidel Castro's revolution are covered anywhere in the media, one of the points always mentioned is Cuba's free healthcare. You can practically time it. If it's in print, you get the lead issue in the first and second paragraph, a mention of Fidel Castro or one of his cronies in the third paragraph, and then the plug for the lauded free healthcare available to Cubans in the fourth. I don’t think I've ever read an article about Castro or Cuba where the 'healthcare' isn’t mentioned.

"Every single Castro supporter clings to this healthcare thing like it is some kind of holy grail. In a debate, the fact that Cuba has the most political prisoners in the world is ignored. The fact that Cubans on the island lack even the most basic of necessities is ignored. Tourism apartheid is ignored. Everything is ignored save for the free healthcare and 100% literacy.

"Of course, none of these 'free healthcare!' cheerleaders have ever been to a Cuban hospital. They've never been to a Cuban clinic. Hospitals and clinics serving the average Cuban, that is."

The writer then published photographs showing cockroach-infested hospital rooms: "Cockroaches. Twenty-seven of them to be exact. All swept together after having been squashed by patients and patrons of El Hospital Clinico Quirurgico de la Habana."

Other photos showed a hospital interior that would be shut down in the U.S. because of its shockingly unsanitary conditions.

"Well," wrote the source, "this is just a small reality of Castro's lauded healthcare in Cuba. This is a hospital in Havana, one Castro once called 'one of the most modern and best ones in the country.' The hospital is in the nation's capital and the most populated city in the country. Imagine the conditions of hospitals in smaller cities or rural areas."

Moreover "this is not a hospital that caters to foreigners. This is a hospital strictly for the Cuban people. Foreigners are treated quite differently and their facilities are state of the art and, at least, sanitary.

The photos, taken by two journalists, María Elena Morejón and Carlos Wotzkow, can be accessed through babalublog.com. Wrote the source, "I urge each and every one of you to check the ... photographs so that next time, when some Fidel-loving apologist mentions Cuba's free healthcare, you remember what they're really talking about: the myth of Cuba's vaunted healthcare system."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Cuba; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: castro; castromyth; communism; cubanhealthcare; healthcare; jimmycarter; mediabias; socializedmedicine; thankspeanutboy
"Every single time the island of Cuba and Fidel Castro's revolution are covered anywhere in the media, one of the points always mentioned is Cuba's free healthcare. You can practically time it. If it's in print, you get the lead issue in the first and second paragraph, a mention of Fidel Castro or one of his cronies in the third paragraph, and then the plug for the lauded free healthcare available to Cubans in the fourth. I don’t think I've ever read an article about Castro or Cuba where the 'healthcare' isn’t mentioned.

"Every single Castro supporter clings to this healthcare thing like it is some kind of holy grail. In a debate, the fact that Cuba has the most political prisoners in the world is ignored. The fact that Cubans on the island lack even the most basic of necessities is ignored. Tourism apartheid is ignored. Everything is ignored save for the free healthcare and 100% literacy.

"Of course, none of these 'free healthcare!' cheerleaders have ever been to a Cuban hospital. They've never been to a Cuban clinic. Hospitals and clinics serving the average Cuban, that is."

I wish there was a way to allow all of Castro's leftist apologists spend a few months in a Cuban gulag and then see how they feel.

1 posted on 04/10/2005 6:22:31 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee
The Real Cuba.
2 posted on 04/10/2005 6:31:22 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: wagglebee

Of course it's a sham...Cuba, after all, is a country-sized Communist prison camp.


3 posted on 04/10/2005 6:37:54 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: wagglebee

Duh! I am shocked, shocked, I tell you, to discover commies and their leftie stooges here are liars.


4 posted on 04/10/2005 6:52:03 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: wagglebee

Yep, and their supposedly "great health care system for the masses" has none of the emergency care infrastructure we and the rest of the free world take for granted - no ambulances, no EMTs, no way to get to the hospital for most people. Well not exactly - normally your neighbors will try to round up a donkey cart to pull you to the hospital if you are having a heart attack. Sometimes the poor victim is even alive when he gets there.


5 posted on 04/10/2005 7:22:39 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: wagglebee

Another myth busted.


6 posted on 04/10/2005 7:30:04 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: facedown

ALL socialized medicine is a sham, not just what you find in Cuba. Cuba's just happens to be the worst because it's the most socialistic country in the world (except for No. Korea, whose health-care system consists of starving people to death).


7 posted on 04/10/2005 7:57:28 PM PDT by TimeLord (A whale fetus is a whale; a human fetus is a blob.)
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To: wagglebee

bump.


8 posted on 04/10/2005 8:06:46 PM PDT by ambrose (....)
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To: wagglebee
I wish there was a way to allow all of Castro's leftist apologists spend a few months in a Cuban gulag and then see how they feel.

That could be amusing. A "friend of a friend" was a Cuban apologist. She is an artist, and for years had claimed that Cuba and other Communist countries supported artists while America didn't.
She went to Cuba a few years ago to start her new life as an "appreciated artist", and found out that Cuba indeed supports artists; they just have to work long hours in factories painting gewgaws for tourists to buy.

PS. She's back here working as an art teacher and painting on her own time. She's doing well, and doesn't discuss politics anymore. :-)

9 posted on 04/10/2005 8:08:10 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: wagglebee
Of course they don't live there. If Fidel's Communist paradise is so wonderful, why don't American Leftists embrace the ideal? All their talk about free health care and literary is just that - talk. And its cheap.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
10 posted on 04/10/2005 8:12:13 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: wagglebee

If there is still a big Cuban connection with Angola, the Marburg outbreak there may test Cuban medicine somewhat.


11 posted on 04/10/2005 8:16:00 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Judith Anne

Hola! Hope that doesn't happen, too clost to home.


12 posted on 04/10/2005 8:37:40 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
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To: wagglebee

Healthcare in Cuba is free, and worth every penny.


13 posted on 04/10/2005 8:39:01 PM PDT by dfwgator (Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
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To: Atchafalaya; All

I'm an idiot, very fuzzy on my Cuba-Angola history, but I thought that Cubans had troops in Angola at one time...do you know, or does anyone, if they still are there? Because Luanda, Angolan capital, has Marburg cases, number unknown, and I know there's a flight direct from Luanda to Houston, how about from Luanda to Havana, too?


14 posted on 04/10/2005 8:42:47 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: wagglebee

How do they come up with 100% literacy?

By killing all adults that are illiterate???


15 posted on 04/10/2005 9:01:59 PM PDT by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (Peace on earth! After major whup-a$$)
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To: facedown

I just watched the documentary about Cuba by Oliver Stone and he makes himself look like a fool.He must be the only person who believes the people around him are acting freely instead of being told what to say by Castro.In his documentary there's not one Cuban on the street who doesn't love Castro and they all love living in Cuba.I saw another documentary by Stone about the Palestinians where he did the same thing.He interviewed terrorist and pretended like they were telling the truth.It's amazing how liberal beliefs can make such smart people so stupid.


16 posted on 04/10/2005 9:07:56 PM PDT by rdcorso (In America Criminals Have More Rights Than The Disabled.What A Disgrace)
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To: GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos
How do they come up with 100% literacy?

Before Castro took power, Cuba had an increasing literacy rate already (no one is even sure why), the continuation has happened on his watch, so he gets credit.

If you are a true dictator, and you want 100% literacy, you should get it. If your using the schools to indoctrinate the population, you need the kids to be able to read your propaganda, and you can "hurt" those who do not learn to read.

If you were basically given the choices they are, one would have to be suicidal to not learn to read or make sure there kids could read. He is brutal, and the use of brutality is one way to achieve his ends. Everyone talks about 100% literacy, no one wants to ask how its being done.

17 posted on 04/10/2005 9:31:15 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Judith Anne

They did and may still have troops there as Angola was a plum for Cuba; someone may have better information concerning that. Isolation with standard precautions works.




18 posted on 04/10/2005 9:33:54 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
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To: freeandfreezing
Yep, and their supposedly "great health care system for the masses" has none of the emergency care infrastructure we and the rest of the free world take for granted - no ambulances, no EMTs, no way to get to the hospital for most people.

Whenever I was in school, and had to hear about Cuba's great "health care system", I used to ask the most basic questions.

1)If its so great, shouldn't they have a library of patents for medicine and pharmaceuticals?

2)Shouldn't they be leaders in some kind of medical innovation?

3)Should bio-tech, or some kind of method of treatment or some kind of research be a famous product of theres or at least shouldn't they be leaders in these fields?

4)What is the biggest accomplishment Cuba's health care system has produced, medically, technique, surgery, or in any specific field, ever?

5)If Cuba had created or invented vaccines or cures for any diseases, say cancer, do you really think we wouldn't have dropped the embargo on them to get it?

19 posted on 04/10/2005 9:36:46 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M

One does not frequently hear of Cuba when discussing today's integrating global economy. Cuba appears isolated, politically and economically, mainly due to trade restrictions placed on it by the US in the 1960's. No wonder, says the author of this Straits Times article, the world is surprised to learn of Cuba's flourishing biotech industry which has contributed much to the field of biotechnology and medicine. Since its establishment in the mid-1980's, the Cuban biotech sector has developed a meningitis B vaccine, and today exports the world's most effective hepatitis B vaccine to more than 30 countries. Recently, it developed the first synthetic vaccine for the prevention of pneumonia and meningitis, which is much cheaper than what is offered by Western pharmaceutical companies. Poised to provide anti-cancer therapies to the European market by 2008, Cuba is also eagerly looking to enter the western market, and many observers are cheering it on. – YaleGlobal

http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=3193


20 posted on 04/10/2005 9:47:30 PM PDT by 4mor3
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To: 4mor3
, the world is surprised to learn of Cuba's flourishing biotech industry which has contributed much to the field of biotechnology and medicine. Since its establishment in the mid-1980's, the Cuban biotech sector has developed a meningitis B vaccine, and today exports the world's most effective hepatitis B vaccine to more than 30 countries.

Its kind of hard to imply something is a secret if its available in more then 30 countries, never the less, if its developing such vaccines, it wouldn't have problems using the profits of licensing them to others to bring in cash.

If Cuba is isolated economically, producing cures, is the easiest way to break it. The question here is how much of this is hype and how much of it isn't? Poised to provide anti-cancer therapies by 2008? I'll believe it when it happens, for a country that has had Castro and his vision around for so long and has established a bio-tech sector in the mid-80's, they should not be doing catch up, they should be the world leaders.

No one finds it odd, that Cuba which is supposed to be isolated, makes it claims of success, with proof, that they are not isolated (references to over 30 countries, European markets, western market?).

This is a cheerleader puff piece where the author did not have to good sense to avoid contradicting themselves.

21 posted on 04/10/2005 9:57:44 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M

You make a lot of sense to me!


22 posted on 04/10/2005 10:40:42 PM PDT by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (Peace on earth! After major whup-a$$)
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To: wagglebee
"Public health has been a high priority sector for the Cuban government since the late 1950s. As a result, the Cuban population enjoys one of the highest life expectancies at 75.2 years, and one of the lowest infant mortality rates (9.7 per 1,000 live births).

"Cuba's accomplishments in primary care involve low-technology and organizational innovations such as neighborhood-based family medicine."

"Vaccination is a major focus of the Cuban health system, whose childhood immunization program has led to the eradication of measles, mumps and polio, as well as a 30-fold decrease in the incidence of meningitis."

"There are projects to develop vaccines against salmonella and dengue hemorrhagic fever -- a particularly difficult project, as vaccines must be effective against all four dengue viruses to prevent disease."

"Cuba's biotechnology industry is one of the most advanced in emerging countries. Fidel Castro has vowed that Cuba will become the only developing nation to be a significant player in the world's biotechnology and pharmaceuticals industries, and a concerted national effort instigated by Castro himself has made independent progress unmatched elsewhere in the developing world."

"Cuban biotech research has added several vaccines to the national immunization program, and is responsible for drugs such as recombinant streptokinase, the "cloudburst" for heart attack victims produced at a fraction of the cost of imports."

"Cuba has produced a number of valuable medicinal goods, such as epiderman growth factor and policosanol (PPG), an oral medication derived from sugar cane that lowers cholesterol and atherogenic lipoproteins."

"Cuba would be capable of producing biological warfare agents, and Cuba's biotechnology industry could produce many types of toxins. Defector reports claim that the civilian-run Center for Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology in Havana is a "front" for a military research center that manufactures anthrax and bubonic plague."

"In February 1997 Cuban President Fidel Castro compared the United States to a dragon and Cuba to a lamb and warned that if the dragon tried to eat the lamb, it would find its meal "poisoned" -- setting off speculation concerning Cuba's biological warfare capabilities."

GlobalSecurity.org

23 posted on 04/10/2005 10:41:40 PM PDT by Daaave ( I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it.)
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To: Judith Anne
... fuzzy on my Cuba-Angola history, but I thought that Cubans had troops in Angola at one time...

(C)old War Ghost- Cubans in Angola

24 posted on 04/11/2005 12:56:00 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Undocumented Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: Sender
Thanks. I clicked on 'The Real Cuba', and the photos I saw reminded me of those pictures of southern rural poverty liberals used to shame the conscience of our own nation back in the 60's.

In Cuba, of course, the social solidarity and the emancipation from the 'false conscience' of capitalism makes it all worthwhile.

I predict an uprising in Cuba at Fidel's death. I understand he still refuses to name an heir apparent. Who will get the prize as the last Marxist head of state in Latin America? Castro? Chavez? de Silva? I only know they will all be gone in a few years.

25 posted on 04/11/2005 2:02:30 AM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (Don't worry. My suit is triple-flameproof)
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta; DAVEY CROCKETT

ping


26 posted on 04/11/2005 3:13:27 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (Airspeed, altitude, or brains. Two are required to successfully complete a flight.)
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