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After the war: Iraqis face new lives [Yes, it's the BBC...but prepare to be shocked]
BBC News ^ | 4/11/05 | Ordinary Iraqi Citizens

Posted on 04/12/2005 5:07:00 PM PDT by saquin

Two years after the statue of Saddam Hussein was toppled in Baghdad, marking the fall of the city to US-led forces, BBC Arabic.com asked seven Iraqis for their thoughts on how life has changed for them since the conflict.

Here are their stories.

SAAD , 32, BASRA, SOUND ENGINEER

Let me describe our situation before the fall of the previous regime. We were like a sick, weak prisoner under the thumb of a cruel jailer.

Then, suddenly and without warning, the gates of our prison were flung open. We were told: "Come on, you are free!"

The previous regime used to tell us what to read, what to watch and what to listen to.

There were no newspapers except the regime's and the Baghdad and Shabab youth radio stations. Even then, Shahab was owned by Uday, Saddam's eldest son.

If you tuned into these two stations, you would hear all about the president's audiences and activities.

On television we had, once again, the Iraq and Shabab stations. And again, the latter used to air the president's sayings and had a very entertaining programme called "Poems about the love of the leader"!

The previous regime used to tell us what to say, what work we could do

The previous regime used to tell us what to say and what work we could do. It would decide how much we earned. Indeed, we did not even get salaries but "gifts" from the president.

Please note that the "gift" my sister - a doctor and a specialist - used to get would amount to only $8 per month.

Then the moment of salvation came. Perhaps I shouldn't use the phrase "moment of salvation", for to do so implies we were expecting such a moment when in truth we were feeling hopeless.

Call it what you will, it happened and it was a magnificent thing.

Iraqis are feeling better. They are breathing the air of freedom. They read, watch and say what they want.

They travel, work and receive a living wage. They use mobile phones, satellite dishes and the internet, which they did not even know before.

The negative side, which is transient, is that some here are trying to force others to accept their way and even using force to achieve that.

As for terrorism, we are now beginning to unite against it and to defeat it.

I say to you: Wait two or three years and you will be pleasantly surprised.

NOURA, 32, BAGHDAD, COMPUTER ENGINEER

As an Iraqi, I see lack of security as the most important problem at the moment.

I thought Iraqis would seize the opportunity of the fall of Saddam to rebuild a free and well-organised country, but unfortunately this has not happened.

Many Iraqis use their new freedom, which they got suddenly, in a selfish way. Many do not respect the law.

Iraqis should remember the law now is not as it was under Saddam.

Will Iraqis seize this opportunity, or will they let sectarianism and disagreement lead their lives?

They should remember we have a golden chance of freedom, a wish shared by many other suppressed nations.

As a Christian Iraqi, I can say that there is a general feeling of anxiety amongst Iraqi Christians. Many of them are considering whether to leave.

However, I can assure you that many Iraqis, regardless of their faith, are thinking of leaving as well.

Personally, I feel completely accepted and supported. I have no problem in practicing my religion, although I have heard of some extremist groups harassing Christians.

While we lost security after Saddam's fall, we gained our freedom and a chance to build a new society.

The question is: Will Iraqis seize this opportunity, or will they let sectarianism and disagreement lead their lives?

NADA, 32, MOSUL, GOVERNMENT WORKER

We never imagined that the Turkmen community would have a political party representing them in Iraq, but this is happening now. We have our own flag, too, in addition to the Iraqi flag.

This was impossible during Saddam's era. Had we dared to do any of these things then we would have ended up buried in a mass grave.

We never imagined that the Iraqi media would be free from state interference and that anybody - regardless of his or her origin, political allegiance or religion - would be able to talk freely and express their opinion without fear.

We now have our own satellite television channel in our language and we can express our opinions as Iraqi Turkmen.

We are very happy now. But despite these improvements, we still fear terrorism and violence.

I do hope that women will fare better in Iraq under the present government

These acts make Iraqis feel hopeless, as if living in a state of constant instability.

The other problem we face is corruption within the Iraqi state administration.

This is destroying ordinary citizens' chances to improve their financial situation and their lives.

The theft of public money and abuse of power undermine society and have a serious impact.

There is also the problem of unemployment amongst university graduates. My sister, for example, is a law graduate, but for two years she has not found a job.

The Iraqi government is trying its best to improve the country's situation, but it lacks good planning, knowledge and experience.

My situation as an Iraqi woman has not changed much since the removal of Saddam. I do hope, however, that women will fare better in Iraq under the present government.

KABAN, 31, BAGHDAD, ELECTRICAL ENGINEER

There have been many changes since the fall of Saddam's regime, but the most important change was that we feel free.

Many Iraqis had lived in fear of the regime for years, therefore the first step along the way to democracy and freedom was getting rid of that fear.

This freedom led to breaking the isolation which had engulfed us Iraqis - especially the Iraqi intellectuals - during the Saddam era.

Many people predicted a civil and ethnic war between Iraqis would erupt, but the Iraqis were the first to sense the danger and ensured that it would never happen.

Those who say that security was better in the past are completely wrong

The only thing that worries us is the security situation. However, those who say that security was better in the past are completely wrong.

It is true we did not have suicide car bombings in Saddam's era, but our homes did not feel safe from the intrusion of Saddam's security men, who came in the middle of the night to kidnap, kill or rape.

Our insecurity then was also not highlighted on the Arab satellite television channels as it is now.

Things are now complicated but we, as Iraqis, understand that in the end everything will be OK for future generations.

WALAA, 25, BAGHDAD, SCHOOLTEACHER

We had great hope that change in Iraq would be for the better and that Iraq would restore security, but unfortunately this didn't happen.

I'm sure everyone will agree that we do not feel secure and safe, although the economic situation has got better for people such as civil servants, whose salaries have risen.

We do not feel safe when we leave our homes. Life has become unpredictable for most people because of transport difficulties and a lack of facilities.

Nepotism and favouritism have also hit society across the board.

Sunnis in Iraq do not live in isolation from the political and social circles of life, as many people outside Iraq seem to believe

I want the Iraqi government to concentrate on resolving these serious problems by legislating new laws.

The solution to Iraq's problems, in my view, lies in achieving social justice and equality for the people and in the government monitoring the whole situation constantly.

As for individuals, they should be aware that everyone is equal before the law and that dreams and ambitions cannot be achieved by theft and illegal means, but by working hard and being honest with themselves and others.

From what I have seen, I can say that the Sunnis in Iraq do not live in isolation from the political and social circles of life, as many people outside Iraq seem to believe.

Nothing has affected our relationships with each other - we face the same problems. This applies to Sunnis or Shia, Christians or Muslims, Arabs or Kurds.

Unfortunately, the refusal by some Sunnis to participate in the elections was the cause of some political isolation.

But we have every right to participate as much as the rest, because there is only one Iraq, one land and one history that we all share.

IMAD MOHAMED, 25, BAGHDAD, UNIVERSITY GRADUATE

After the regime change in Iraq, I expected radical changes in Iraqi society. I hoped things would improve.

This is true in some cases. For example, as an Iraqi, I am no longer afraid that the secret security service will arrest me.

I am no longer afraid that I could be tortured, jailed, or killed simply because some officials do not like me.

I am no longer worried about losing my dignity or my life. And I am also getting a higher income, like most Iraqis.

I have bought a new car - which was a dream for me - and all commodities are available in the markets now, in contrast to Saddam's time.

I hope Iraqis build a new country for this generation and the coming ones

However, public services such as electricity and water supplies have not improved.

The worst problem, as always, is the lack of security. If we had peace and security in Iraq, our lives would be so much better.

Iraqi want to live in peace after long years of wars. They just want normal lives without violence and sectarianism.

I hope that one day Iraqis will overcome all the difficulties they face. I hope they build a new country for this generation and the coming ones.


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Other than understandable complaints about the security situation, these are overwhelmingly positive remarks from Iraqi citizens. I'm amazed the BBC actually published them.
1 posted on 04/12/2005 5:07:01 PM PDT by saquin
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To: ducks1944; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; TrueBeliever9; anniegetyourgun; maestro; TEXOKIE; ...
SAAD , 32, BASRA, SOUND ENGINEER

Let me describe our situation before the fall of the previous regime. We were like a sick, weak prisoner under the thumb of a cruel jailer.

Then, suddenly and without warning, the gates of our prison were flung open. We were told: "Come on, you are free!"

2 posted on 04/12/2005 5:12:05 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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However, public services such as electricity and water supplies have not improved.

Doesn't help when your own people are stealing copper from transformers and bus bars from substations to sell it for scrap...Plus anything that was not destroyed in desert storm was in rough shape COMMBLOC or shody European equipment to begin with...

3 posted on 04/12/2005 5:22:42 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: saquin; Calpernia

Great post, saquin! This is definitely a surprise coming from the BBC but a pleasant one!
A keeper, most definitely.

Thanks for the ping, Calpernia!


4 posted on 04/12/2005 5:24:03 PM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: saquin

This in the BBC? Have I dropped through a timewarp into an alternate universe again? I hate it when that happens...


5 posted on 04/12/2005 5:28:38 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: saquin

It's clear that at least these few Iraqis cheerish their liberty already. I was a bit disappointed that not one person mentioned who it was that set them free, or thanked them, but at least they weren't condemning America and in the Arab world indifference towards the US is progress enough for now as far as I am concerned.


6 posted on 04/12/2005 5:36:53 PM PDT by Smoote
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"Doesn't help when your own people are stealing copper from transformers and bus bars from substations to sell it for scrap"

All good points, but don't forget the neo-libs are now against the equitable distribution of wealth because it's tuesday and if their morals get in the way of their latest argument, then they can always be changed.

Baghdad and a few areas in the sunni triangle got 24/7 power, at the expense of other areas like Basra and the south, some of which only got three hours a day. Now all get around 16. Hence why the BBC can only get a few people to still complain about power, but that is all they need to fool the useful idiots.
7 posted on 04/12/2005 5:39:28 PM PDT by Arabs only 600 years behind us
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To: Billthedrill

DU has been knocking the BBC lately------now I know why!


8 posted on 04/12/2005 5:41:41 PM PDT by Mears ("The Killer Queen,caviar and cigarettes")
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To: Arabs only 600 years behind us

Glory Glory Hallelujah!

And the Truth Goes Marching On.


9 posted on 04/12/2005 5:42:16 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: saquin

Like Americans of old the Iraqis will have to fight for their freedom to achieve security. They are fortunate to have us and our allies because the rest of the world did not lift a finger to help them, only to help Saddam and their own pockets.


10 posted on 04/12/2005 5:48:18 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: saquin
What? No "Yankey go home" message from these Iraquis?

It must be election time in England!

Funding baby. It is all funding!!

One good piece doesn't even come close to making up for 40 years of biases by what passes as "objective reporting". If it wasn't excerped on FR I wouldn't never have known!

11 posted on 04/12/2005 5:52:15 PM PDT by bubman
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To: spanalot

I am an American Amateur Radio operator and have reciprocal operating privleges here in Iraq.

During my various communications with my Iraqi friends, their comments are nothing but positive. Of course, over-the-air conversations are very general in nature, but email is much more revealing. Most of them are extremely happy that we are here. You can't find more earnest and hard-working people in the world.

Best Regards,

SGT C.
U.S. Army
near Baghdad, Iraq


12 posted on 04/12/2005 5:52:21 PM PDT by veeceeque
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To: saquin

I am an American Amateur Radio operator and have reciprocal operating privleges here in Iraq.

During my various communications with my Iraqi friends, their comments are nothing but positive. Of course, over-the-air conversations are very general in nature, but email is much more revealing. Most of them are extremely happy that we are here. You can't find more earnest and hard-working people in the world.

Best Regards,

SGT C.
U.S. Army
near Baghdad, Iraq


13 posted on 04/12/2005 5:53:26 PM PDT by veeceeque
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To: veeceeque

Thanks Sarge for the report. And for serving our country. Stay safe!


14 posted on 04/12/2005 6:16:06 PM PDT by Smoote
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To: veeceeque

I am an American Amateur Radio operator and have reciprocal operating privleges here in Iraq.

Do you have all your radio gear there?

Keep up the great work - the doom and gloomers are getting beaten and we realize we are not getting all the great news that is happening there because of your great sacrifice and effort.


15 posted on 04/12/2005 6:16:57 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: veeceeque

Keep up the great work - we know the media is not getting all the great news from there that is due to your great work and sacrifice - but we have faith.


16 posted on 04/12/2005 6:18:08 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: veeceeque

Great to hear from you and that your conversations are so positive. Take care!!!


17 posted on 04/12/2005 7:20:27 PM PDT by gogipper
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping!


18 posted on 04/12/2005 9:25:07 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Calpernia

BIG BUMP!


19 posted on 04/12/2005 9:44:35 PM PDT by Valin (The Problem with Reality is the lack of background music)
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To: saquin
are overwhelmingly positive remarks from Iraqi citizens. I'm amazed the BBC actually published them

I'm sure the beeb tried to find disgruntled men on the street. Maybe they've all blown up or been "brought to justice"?

20 posted on 04/12/2005 10:00:42 PM PDT by Stultis
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