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To: Elsie
Is it ONLY to Peter; or is it to ALL of them?

Already answered here: #1301

-A8

1,453 posted on 04/27/2005 7:34:52 AM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8
 

The "you" is singular in the Greek. He is talking only to Peter. I will give [soi] to you [singular] the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatever "you" (singular) bind, ... whatever "you (singular) ....

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NIV Matthew 16:13-20
 13.  When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?"
 14.  They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets."
 15.  "But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"
 16.  Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ,  the Son of the living God."
 17.  Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.
 18.  And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
 19.  I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be  bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
 20.  Then he warned his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Christ.  

 KJV Matthew 16:13-21
13.  When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
 14.  And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
 15.  He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
 16.  And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
 17.  And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
 18.  And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
 19.  And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
 20.  Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.
 ASV Matthew 16:13-20
 13.  Now when Jesus came into the parts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Who do men say that the Son of man is?
 14.  And they said, Some say John the Baptist; some, Elijah; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets.
 15.  He saith unto them, But who say ye that I am?
 16.  And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
 17.  And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jonah: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father who is in heaven.
 18.  And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.
 19.  I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
 20.  Then charged he the disciples that they should tell no man that he was the Christ.
 LIT Matthew 16:13-20
 13. |2064| coming |1161| And |2424| Jesus |1519| into |3588| the |3313| parts |2542| of Caesarea |5376| of Philip |2065| he questioned |3588| the |3101| followers |0846| of him, |3004| saying, |5101| Whom |3165| me |3004| do say |0444| people |1511| to be, |3588| the |5207| Son |3588| of |0444| Man?
 14. |3588| they |1161| And |2036| said, |3303| Some |9999| {say}, |2491| John |3588| the |0910| Immerser. |0243| others |9999| {say} |1161| And |2243| Elijah. |2087| others |9999| {say} |1161| And |2408| Jeremiah, |2228| or |1520| one |3588| of the |4396| prophets.
 15. |3004| He says |0846| to them,
 
|5210| you
 
|1161| But, |5101| whom |3165| me
 
|3004| do you say
 
|1511| to be?
 16. |0611| answering |1161| And |4613| Simon |4074| Peter |2036| said,
 
|4771| you
 
|1488| are |3588| the |5547| Christ, |3588| the |5207| Son |3588| of |2316| God |3588| the |2198| living!
 17. |2532| And |0611| answering |2424| Jesus |2036| said |0846| to him, |3107| Blessed
 
|1488| are you ,
 
|4613| Simon |0920| Bar-Jonah |3754| because |4561| flesh |2532| and |0129| blood |3756| not |0601| did reveal |9999| {this}
 
|4671| to you ,
 
|0235| but |3588| the |3962| Father |3450| of me |1722| in |3588| the |3772| heavens.
 18. |2504| I also |1161| And
 
|4671| to you
 
 |3004| say, |3754| -
 
|4771| you
 
 |1487| are |4074| Peter, |2532| and |1909| upon |5026| this |4073| bedrock |9999| {statement} |3618| I will build |3450| of me |3588| the |1577| community |2532| and |9999| {the} |4439| gates |0086| of Hades |3756| not |2729| will prevail against |0846| her.
 19. |1325| I will give
 
|4671| to you
 
|3588| the |2807| keys |3588| of the |0932| kingdom |3588| of the |3772| heavens, |2532| and |1437| whatever
 
|1210| you bind
 
|1909| on |3588| the |1093| earth will be, |2071| having been |1210| bound |1722| in |3588| the |3772| heavens, |2532| and |1437| whatever
 
|3089| you loose |
 
1909| on |3588| the |1093| earth |2071| will be, |3089| having been loosed |1722| in |3588| the |3772| heavens.
 20. |5119| Then |1291| he warned |3588| the |3101| followers |2443| that |3367| to no one |2036| they may tell |3754| that |0846| he |2076| is |2424| Jesus |3588| the |5547| Christ.
 
Picking out the ONE verse ain't gonna get it.
 
What is translated YOU in this PASSAGE comes from a variety of Greek words, with the Strong's numbers listed below:
Verse # 15  |5210| you
Verse # 15  |3004| do you say
Verse # 16  |4771| you
Verse # 17  |1488| are you ,
Verse # 17  |4671| to you ,
Verse # 18  |4671| to you
Verse # 18  |4771| you
Verse # 19  |4671| to you 
Verse # 19  |1210| you bind 
Verse # 19  |3089| you loose


 
 Strong's Ref. # 5210
 
Romanized  humeis
Pronounced hoo-mice'
 
irregular plural of GSN4771; you (as subjective of verb):
 
KJV--ye (yourselves), you.

Strong's Ref. # 3004
 
Romanized  lego
Pronounced leg'-o
 
a primary verb; properly, to "lay" forth, i.e. (figuratively) relate (in words [usually of systematic or set discourse; whereas GSN2036 and GSN5346 generally refer to an individual expression or speech respectively; while GSN4483 is properly, to break silence merely, and GSN2980 means an extended or random harangue]); by implication, to mean:
 
KJV--ask, bid, boast, call, describe, give out, name, put forth, say(-ing, on), shew, speak, tell, utter.
Strong's Ref. # 4771
 
Romanized  su
Pronounced soo
 
the person pronoun of the second person singular; thou:
 
KJV-- thou. See also GSN4571, GSN4671, GSN4675; and for the plural GSN5209, GSN5210, GSN5213, GSN5216.
Strong's Ref. # 1488
 
Romanized  ei
Pronounced i
 
second person singular present of GSN1510; thou art:
 
KJV--art, be.
Strong's Ref. # 4671
 
Romanized  soi
Pronounced soy
 
dative case of GSN4771; to thee:
 
KJV--thee, thine own, thou, thy.
Strong's Ref. # 1210
 
Romanized  deo
Pronounced deh'-o
 
a primary verb; to bind (in various applications, literally or figuratively):
 
KJV--bind, be in bonds, knit, tie, wind. See also GSN1163, GSN1189.
 

Strong's Ref. # 3089
 
Romanized  luo
Pronounced loo'-o
 
a primary verb; to "loosen" (literally or figuratively):
 
KJV--break (up), destroy, dissolve, (un-)loose, melt, put off. Compare GSN4486.

1,457 posted on 04/27/2005 12:53:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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