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This is very interesting. A paleotologist predicted what would be necessary to resolve an issue in evolution and a fossil observation was later found that fits with what was required to confirm one possible path, and refute others, for bird/dinousaur evolutionary relationship. And please, no Helen Thomas pictures!
1 posted on 04/15/2005 6:39:51 AM PDT by doc30
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evo ping please?


2 posted on 04/15/2005 6:40:52 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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COOL! Good post


3 posted on 04/15/2005 6:42:05 AM PDT by Mikey_1962
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"There's always been two camps among paleontologists: those that believe birds came from dinosaurs and those that believe birds came from other reptiles," Dr. Zelenitsky, the report's co-author, said. "But this provides further evidence that birds are from dinosaurs."

At long last the Chicken vs. Egg conundrum solved!

Of course, The Institute of Creation Science hasn't weighed in on this yet....

4 posted on 04/15/2005 6:43:31 AM PDT by Plutarch
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I didn't think there were any scientist left who didn't accept that modern birds are nothing but legacy dinosaurs.


6 posted on 04/15/2005 6:47:53 AM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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Uncovering this oviraptorid specimen, he said, is essentially like finding the "smoking gun."

This is always the claim, when it is not. This "proof" is based on the number of eggs per birth? He must be kidding.
7 posted on 04/15/2005 6:49:56 AM PDT by jps098
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Mmmmm. Eggs. Image hosted by TinyPic.com
12 posted on 04/15/2005 7:00:30 AM PDT by Sax
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Fossilized eggs, pong


15 posted on 04/15/2005 7:06:14 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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Please help me on this one. Are they saying that a dino was laying bird eggs?


17 posted on 04/15/2005 7:15:37 AM PDT by Leonard210
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This is cool. Now remind me, how many separate times did flight evolve? Insects, one. Pterosaurs, that's two. Birds, that's three. Bats (mammals), oh darn, thats' four now. I think I'm missing one, but let's say four.

So we had to evolve this complex system on no less than four separate occasions!

Good thing we got lucky with those trixy mutations each time.

I guess there are tonnes of transitional forms in each case. Cool.


34 posted on 04/15/2005 8:07:05 AM PDT by jbloedow
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I know ceritopsians have been found with clutches of eggs(and also I believe eggs in their bodies) in the Mongolian desert for decades....I wonder how this differs?


37 posted on 04/15/2005 8:18:50 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society "( Robert Heinlien).)
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Thank you for posting this. More transitional evidence.


55 posted on 04/15/2005 8:53:32 AM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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I don't suppose the oviraptorid could have died before it laid any subsequent eggs during the same gestation period, or had already deposited a pair some distance away, could it?


56 posted on 04/15/2005 8:54:03 AM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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And please, no Helen Thomas pictures!

Killjoy

65 posted on 04/15/2005 9:08:33 AM PDT by null and void (RFID - It's all in the wristâ„¢...)
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Scrambled Ping


166 posted on 04/15/2005 11:34:53 AM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory. Lots of links on my homepage...)
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The BIG question evolutionists can't answer:

"Where are all the transitional species"?

If birds evolved from dinosaurs or dinosaurs from birds, it could not have happened in one generation. Hence, there would have been a lot of weird transitional species and nobody has ever seen one --- not one single one.

Conclusion: God created the Birds! God created the dinosaurs! God created all things!
188 posted on 04/15/2005 12:01:16 PM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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Scrambled Ping


210 posted on 04/15/2005 12:35:26 PM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory. Lots of links on my homepage...)
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Big whoop-di-do.

We knew dinosaurs produced eggs. So finding one with eggs in the body doesn't further a link with birds. Unlike birds, both ovaries were producing at the same time. Unlike birds, the Dinosaur eggs "are neither bird-like nor crocodile-like in appearance."

213 posted on 04/15/2005 12:43:38 PM PDT by DannyTN
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"A pair of fossilized eggs found inside pelvis of dinosaur supports a link with birds"

I eat eggs and I suppose it is possible that some Darwinist some eon or so from now may dig me up and find fossilized eggs in the vicinity of my pelvis.

And I'm quite sure the a$$hole will publish a paper and the liberals of the future will conclude that the birds of the future are descendant from me and only religious fundamentalists will dispute this "fact".


219 posted on 04/15/2005 12:50:26 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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Very interesting indeed. Will they 'open' one of the eggs or X-ray them (if possible), to see what the unborn dinosaurs looked like? Essentially, they're stone now, but surely there's some way to see or discern the interior other than sawing it in half. I think.


259 posted on 04/15/2005 1:34:48 PM PDT by hershey
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"This specimen showed that these dinosaurs were more like birds in that they were laying one egg at a time," Dr. Zelenitsky said. ". . . but in this dinosaur, both the oviducts were functional like in crocodiles, but each oviduct was only producing one egg."

Can you say "transitional fossil", boys and girls?

I knew you could!

267 posted on 04/15/2005 1:43:15 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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