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It's impressive, scary to see what a Zaba search can do
San Francisco Chronicle ^
| 4-15-2005
| David Lazarus
Posted on 04/15/2005 10:15:58 AM PDT by Cagey
Everything that's great and everything that's frightening about the Internet can be summed up in a single word.
Zaba.
That's Zaba as in ZabaSearch.com, a so-called people search site that allows you to quickly track down the whereabouts of just about anyone, free of charge.
There are already numerous people search resources online, varying widely in reliability and fees.
(There's also an interesting story about the people behind ZabaSearch and the notorious mass suicide in Southern California involving the Heaven's Gate cult. But we'll get back to that.)
What makes ZabaSearch great is that, at no cost, it quickly and comprehensively places a remarkable amount of data about people right at your fingertips.
What makes ZabaSearch frightening is that, at no cost, it quickly and comprehensively places a remarkable amount of data about people right at your fingertips.
"It's extremely troubling," said Gail Hillebrand, a staff attorney with Consumers Union in San Francisco.
"It's a fundamental invasion of privacy because they've put all these records together and give them away for nothing instead of keeping them separate and making people pay to get them."
Robert Zakari, ZabaSearch's president, told me the service was quietly unveiled on Feb. 28 without any marketing or publicity. All traffic since then has been exclusively through word of mouth.
Once people discover the site, Zakari said, they typically begin hunting for old girlfriends or boyfriends, former classmates or military pals.
"It's all about making contact," he said. "It's addictive."
It's also in the eyes of some a threat to people's privacy and safety.
"Think what this could mean for anyone with a stalker problem or a restraining-order issue," said Hillebrand at Consumers Union.
But Zakari countered that ZabaSearch represents only "a natural evolution of technology."
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: privacy; zabasearch; zorba
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I wasn't surprised they had my address down pat, but my birth date? Geeze, I AM old.
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posted on
04/15/2005 10:15:58 AM PDT
by
Cagey
To: Cagey
Well, it had two of my former addresses and my name attached to my brother's current and past address (???) Nothing current. I'd say it isn't ready for prime time just yet...
2
posted on
04/15/2005 10:18:58 AM PDT
by
Mr. Jeeves
("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
To: Cagey
3
posted on
04/15/2005 10:21:25 AM PDT
by
RippleFire
("It's a joke, son!")
To: Cagey
4
posted on
04/15/2005 10:41:06 AM PDT
by
Darksheare
(Restrain the duck, he'll tell us all he knows once he's plucked. -Chief Interrogator Bluejay)
To: Calpernia; Velveeta; DAVEY CROCKETT; WestCoastGal; jerseygirl; appalachian_dweller; Tuba Guy; ...
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posted on
04/15/2005 10:45:45 AM PDT
by
nw_arizona_granny
(Airspeed, altitude, or brains. Two are required to successfully complete a flight.)
To: Darksheare
You exist only on Freerepublic. Any other memories outside of this realm were put there in a grand conspiracy by the Bush Administration.
To: Americanchild
LOL!
I'm a figment of everyone's imagineation, including my own.
*chuckle*
7
posted on
04/15/2005 10:50:29 AM PDT
by
Darksheare
(Restrain the duck, he'll tell us all he knows once he's plucked. -Chief Interrogator Bluejay)
To: Cagey
Very odd. My address and phone # came up under a name with a middle initial that I never use. Meanwhile my real name and middle initial came up with someone else's info.
8
posted on
04/15/2005 10:53:21 AM PDT
by
Alouette
(If I owned Hell and I owned Brooklyn, I'd live in Hell and rent out Brooklyn.)
To: Cagey
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posted on
04/15/2005 10:53:47 AM PDT
by
Deetes
(Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick)
To: kb2614
Weird. I typed in my maiden name and it said I lived at your house.
10
posted on
04/15/2005 10:59:38 AM PDT
by
meowmeow
(Gardeners for Global Warming)
To: Cagey
"It's a fundamental invasion of privacy because they've put all these records together and give them away for nothing instead of keeping them separate and making people pay to get them." Yeah, as long as only the government can do this, it's OK. In the hands of the serfs, it could be dangerous.
11
posted on
04/15/2005 11:04:56 AM PDT
by
eno_
(Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending.)
To: Cagey
12
posted on
04/15/2005 11:08:07 AM PDT
by
Tennessee_Bob
(This tagline is Bush's fault.)
To: Cagey
This is the one and only time I bless my parents for gifting me with an exceedingly common name. If someone wants to sort through the 6,000+ matches that are found with my name and state, they can go right ahead!!
13
posted on
04/15/2005 11:11:18 AM PDT
by
brothers4thID
(I have knocked on door of this man's soul- and found someone home.)
To: Cagey
They got my info right too.
I was glad to see that my unlisted phone number is... unlisted.
14
posted on
04/15/2005 11:11:38 AM PDT
by
Constitution Day
(So many kooks. So little time.)
To: Constitution Day
The site asked me for a credit card to process my request.
Not exactly free.
To: LibWrangler
I think just the search is free.
I did not click the "Background Check" link.
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posted on
04/15/2005 11:15:40 AM PDT
by
Constitution Day
(So many kooks. So little time.)
To: Cagey
It's nice to know that I still have a fair amount of anonymity. It didn't turn up anything on me without some serious hinting.
17
posted on
04/15/2005 11:18:39 AM PDT
by
Redcloak
(But what do I know? I'm just a right-wing nut in his PJs whackin' on a keyboard..)
To: Cagey
It is good to see that my unlisted phone number is still...unlisted.
:-)
18
posted on
04/15/2005 11:18:45 AM PDT
by
cgbg
(Fire the Trustees of the Social Security Trust Fund with no money in it!)
To: Cagey
Looks like the free information costs $20.
19
posted on
04/15/2005 11:19:22 AM PDT
by
DManA
To: Cagey
It found several Fred Flintstones.
20
posted on
04/15/2005 11:29:46 AM PDT
by
jigsaw
(God Bless Our Troops)
To: Cagey
Holy Moly! I put my name in to test it AND it brings up all my family member with THEIR data?
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posted on
04/15/2005 11:31:42 AM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Darksheare
same here...I'm "persona non grata".
kewel
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posted on
04/15/2005 11:31:49 AM PDT
by
taxed2death
(A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
To: Americanchild
I would be laughing at that right now if I wasn't so shocked by the search returns I got.
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posted on
04/15/2005 11:32:51 AM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Cagey
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posted on
04/15/2005 11:36:25 AM PDT
by
cloud8
(I don’t do carrots. --John Bolton)
To: Cagey
Freaky. Big Brother is watching, for sure. :-(
25
posted on
04/15/2005 11:47:49 AM PDT
by
TonyRo76
(American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
To: taxed2death
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posted on
04/15/2005 11:53:44 AM PDT
by
Darksheare
(Restrain the duck, he'll tell us all he knows once he's plucked. -Chief Interrogator Bluejay)
To: Cagey
It messed up my address...
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posted on
04/15/2005 12:26:49 PM PDT
by
sionnsar
(†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
To: Cagey
It lists a friend who passed away several years ago.
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posted on
04/15/2005 12:28:09 PM PDT
by
sionnsar
(†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
To: Cagey
They have me listed at 4 addresses (none of which are correct, though 2 were correct, though incomplete, at one time) and a wrong birthdate.
I'm beginning to wonder if the only way to safeguard your privacy is to do at least the following three things:
1. Get a voice mail service and give out that number only anytime you give out a number to anyone other than friends/family.
2. Get a mail box at a Mail Boxes etc. and do the same thing as in 1.
3. Register an assumed name form with the county, and conduct as much of your business as you can that way. Yes, its public record, but no one will think of it.
Also, there are books on Amazon about how to disappear. I'm not really interested in doing that, but I'm guessing it may have enough collateral information on safeguarding your privacy to be worth it.
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posted on
04/15/2005 12:34:56 PM PDT
by
1L
To: TonyRo76
Every LEO with a terminal in his squad car has access to this, plus ALL your real estate and financial assets, on demand, any time.
Welcome to the soft cage.
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posted on
04/15/2005 1:14:20 PM PDT
by
eno_
(Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending.)
To: Darksheare
Search using this method (all small letters)
mary jones
mary d jones
mary d t jones
jones mary
jones mary d
jones mary d t
jones m d
jones m d t
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posted on
04/15/2005 1:20:21 PM PDT
by
B4Ranch
("Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to report every illegal alien that you meet.")
To: eno_
It is in the hands of the serfs.
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posted on
04/15/2005 1:21:18 PM PDT
by
B4Ranch
("Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to report every illegal alien that you meet.")
To: B4Ranch
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posted on
04/15/2005 1:26:36 PM PDT
by
Darksheare
(Restrain the duck, he'll tell us all he knows once he's plucked. -Chief Interrogator Bluejay)
To: Cagey
Hah. I searched myself. They were not very good. They had me listed twice. First was my old address in a previous marriage. Second was the apartment I lived at when I originally moved out. I have lived in three other addresses in that same town since then and they cought none of them, including my current address where I have been for over two years. And the only phone number they had was from the house I lived at for 20 years in the previous marriage.
Not impressed - yet.
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posted on
04/15/2005 1:31:53 PM PDT
by
RobRoy
(Child support and maintenence (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
To: Cagey
It doesn't work very well with firefox. The hypertext links don't work. I have to use IE to use them.
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posted on
04/15/2005 1:37:48 PM PDT
by
RobRoy
(Child support and maintenence (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
To: cjshapi
Cool! I don't show up in any of their searches! I'm a complete non-entity as far as the powers-that-be are concerned.
36
posted on
04/15/2005 1:39:13 PM PDT
by
Junior
(“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
To: cjshapi
I take that back. I did show up when I narrowed it down. Rats!
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posted on
04/15/2005 1:41:03 PM PDT
by
Junior
(“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
To: Cagey
MUHAHAHAHA! There is no William T. Drill listed
anywhere! Now, if that were only my real name...
To: Junior
Hell's bells, I didn't know there were so many of me! Down to the middle initial.
But those stupid little Zabas don't know everything. That's my old address, phone, etc.
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posted on
04/15/2005 1:50:54 PM PDT
by
cjshapi
To: Cagey
They haven't got me and I serve in town government. I am also a Justice of the Peace and my name appears as a public record on dozens of marriage licenses. I even put in some of the more common misspellings.
40
posted on
04/15/2005 2:19:34 PM PDT
by
muir_redwoods
(Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
To: Darksheare
LOL Some folks just aren't leaving trails behind them. Do your feet touch the floor?
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posted on
04/15/2005 2:35:27 PM PDT
by
B4Ranch
("Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to report every illegal alien that you meet.")
To: LibWrangler
I wonder who runs this site and if it's legit. Would hate to give a card # to some George Soreass front group or something.
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posted on
04/15/2005 2:43:31 PM PDT
by
Rakkasan1
(The MRS wanted to go to an expensive place to eat so I took her to the gas station.)
To: Cagey
"Here's looking up your old address."
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posted on
04/15/2005 2:45:41 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
To: B4Ranch
*looking downward*
I am touching the floor.
What's it mean when I can see the floor through my feet?
I know I've left a bit of a footprint behind.
Strange that the search thingy didn't find it.
I'm almost disappointed.
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posted on
04/15/2005 2:56:35 PM PDT
by
Darksheare
(Restrain the duck, he'll tell us all he knows once he's plucked. -Chief Interrogator Bluejay)
To: brothers4thID
"This is the one and only time I bless my parents for gifting me with an exceedingly common name."
I have a very uncommon name, like as in every person with my last name is some kind of relative. Caught some I was totally unaware of. Did find an old buddy that I'd lost track of. I wonder who else I can track down?
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posted on
04/15/2005 3:16:37 PM PDT
by
jwh_Denver
(The Good News of the Gospel of Christ really is Good News!)
To: Cagey
"It's extremely troubling," said Gail Hillebrand, a staff attorney with Consumers Union in San Francisco. "It's a fundamental invasion of privacy because they've put all these records together and give them away for nothing instead of keeping them separate and making people pay to get them."
Liberal idiots say the stuipidist things.
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posted on
04/15/2005 3:21:30 PM PDT
by
Fledermaus
(I have a big truck)
To: Cagey
Not too impressive. It has my current address and old phone number (I switched to my unlisted second line and dropped the first when I got a cable modem) and it has my last address.
That's it. I can find this same information at other sites.
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posted on
04/15/2005 3:24:30 PM PDT
by
Fledermaus
(I have a big truck)
To: Cagey
It couldn't find my name. :-)
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posted on
04/15/2005 3:51:01 PM PDT
by
k2blader
(Immorality bites.)
To: Cagey
I am nowhere to be found. My dad (I'm a junior) is there but not me. Helps that I've always had an unlisted telephone number and a po box.
People I wish to correspond with know where to find me.
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posted on
04/15/2005 3:58:32 PM PDT
by
Drew68
To: Cagey
HA! I'm not even listed...
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