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The MAJESTIC Documents - Proof of President Trumans involvement with the study of a crashed UFO.
The Majestic Documents Mission ^ | 19 September 1947 | Lt. General Twining

Posted on 04/19/2005 6:11:10 AM PDT by vannrox

Note: Skeptics abound. Readed the authentication section and the issues. This is the cumulation of over a decade of research and verification and validation of the Majestic Documents set.

Majestic Documents.com is a groundbreaking look at the United States UFO program called Majestic and the top secret government documents that tell the story of presidential and military action, authorization, and cover-up regarding UFOs and their alien occupants. A remarkable work of investigative journalism, this website is the first to authenticate top secret UFO documents that tell a detailed story of the crashed discs, alien bodies, presidential briefings, and superb secrecy. Special attention is paid to the forensic authentication issues of content, provenance, type, style and chronology. The story the documents tell leaves the reader with little doubt that the cover-up is real, shocking, and at times unethical.

Operation Majestic-12 was established by special classified presidential order on September 24, 1947 at the recommendation of Secretary of Defense James Forrestal and Dr. Vannevar Bush, Chairman of the Joint Research and Development Board. The goal of the group was to exploit everything they could from recovered alien technology.

Buried in a super-secret "MAJIC EYES ONLY" classification that was above TOP SECRET — long before the modern top secret codeword special access programs of today — Major General Leslie R. Groves (who commanded the Manhattan Project to deliver the atomic bomb) kept just one copy of the details of crashed alien technology in his safe in Washington, D.C.

Ambitious, elite scientists such as Vannevar Bush, Albert Einstein, and Robert Oppenheimer, and career military people such as Hoyt Vandenberg, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, Leslie Groves, and George Marshall, along with a select cast of other experts, feverishly and secretively labored to understand the alien agenda, technology, and their implications.

Einstein and Oppenheimer were called in to give their opinion, drafting a six-page paper titled “Relationships With Inhabitants Of Celestial Bodies.” They provided prophetic insight into our modern nuclear strategies and satellites, and expressed agitated urgency that an agreement be reached with the President so that scientists could proceed to study the alien technology.

The extraordinary recovery of fallen airborne objects in the state of New Mexico, between July 4 – July 6, 1947, caused the Chief of Staff of the Army Air Force’s Interplanetary Phenomena Unit, Scientific and Technical Branch, Counterintelligence Directorate to initiate a thorough investigation. The special unit was formed in 1942 in response to two crashes in the Los Angeles area in late February 1942. The draft summary report begins “At 2332 MST, 3 July 47, radar stations in east Texas and White Sands Proving Ground, N.M. tracked two unidentified aircraft until they both dropped off radar. Two crash sites have been located close to the WSPG. Site LZ-1 was located at a ranch near Corona, Approx. 75 miles northwest of the town of Roswell. Site LZ-2 was located approx. 20 miles southeast of the town of Socorro, at latitude 33-40-31 and longitude 106-28-29”.

The first-ever-known UFO crash retrieval case occurred in 1941 in Cape Girardeau, Missouri. This crash kicked off early reverse-engineering work, but it did not create a unified intelligence effort to exploit possible technological gains apart from the Manhattan Project uses.

The debris from the primary field of the 1947 crash 20 miles southeast of Socorro, New Mexico was called ULAT-1 (Unidentified Lenticular Aerodyne Technology), and it excited metallurgists with its unheard-of tensile and shear strengths. The fusion nuclear (called neutronic at that time) engine used heavy water and deuterium with an oddly arranged series of coils, magnets, and electrodes — descriptions that resemble the “cold fusion” studies of today.

Harry Truman kept the technical briefing documents of September 24, 1947 for further study, pondering the challenges of creating and funding a secret organization before the CIA existed (although the Central Intelligence Group or CIG did exist) and before there was a legal procedure of funding non-war operations.

In April 1954, a group of senior officers of the U.S. intelligence community and the Armed Forces gathered for one of the most secret and sensational briefings in history. The subject was Unidentified Flying Objects — not just a discussion of sightings, but how to recover crashed UFOs, where to ship the parts, and how to deal with the occupants. For example, in the “Special Operations Manual (SOM1-01) Extraterrestrial Entities Technology Recovery and Disposal,” MAJESTIC–12 “red teams” mapped out UFO crash retrieval scenarios with special attention given to press blackouts, body packaging, and live alien transport, isolation, and custody.

Majestic Documents.com is not another rehash of the famous Roswell story — it contains over 500 pages (and growing) of newly surfaced documents, many of which date years before the Roswell crash. Unlike other websites, a central theme of validating authenticity is woven throughout the site while telling the exciting story of the U.S. government's work on retrieval and analysis of extraterrestrial hardware and alien life forms from 1941 to present.

Our Compact Disc (CD), The Secret: Evidence That We Are Not Alone, shows 117 pages of “leaked” top secret UFO documents, most of them never before seen by the public. Some 26 pages were allegedly prepared for a 1954 Special Operations Manual (SOM1-01). This can be purchased on our website along with two other books that provide both the raw original documents and retyped replicas that are often easier to read. The CD provides an initial discussion as to why this briefing manual and the other documents are almost certainly authentic.

The Majestic documents tell a mind-boggling story of deception, intelligence and counterintelligence, revolutionary alien technology, missing nuclear weapons, and compartmentalized secrecy spanning in time from the first crashed disc retrieval in 1941 until three days before President Kennedy’s assassination in 1963.

Our investigation team, led by Robert and Ryan Wood—a father and son team with 50 years of combined UFO study—has applied their skills as both sleuths and scholars. Painstakingly verifying “deep throat” sources, meticulously analyzing old and controversial documents, they arrive finally at conclusions that are as well grounded in fact as they are stunning in their implications.

UFO-related secret programs have consumed a significant part of America’s black budget since the Manhattan Project. The 1997 government-disclosed intelligence budget portion alone is $26 billion and according to Tim Weiner’s 1990 book Blank Check, the total black-budget was about $35 billion in 1990. Even the most sensational conspiracy of modern times—the Kennedy assassination—is likely linked to the UFO cover-up and the military cabal, as several of the documents demonstrate.

Overall, the United States UFO program grew out of necessity. First, to determine the alien threat, second to exploit their advanced technology in any way we could to gain a military, economic or even a psychological advantage and win World War II, and third to maintain power, authority, and control of both technology, governments, and world stability. Initially, to make the project public would have sent unpredictable turmoil into science, religion, politics, and global economics.

Even the most hardened skeptic, after reviewing the data presented and seeing copies of the original documents, will find it hard to deny the reality of military and government cover-up for over 50 years. All of the usual questions, which the thoughtful skeptical reader has, have either already been addressed or soon will be in our ongoing research. We welcome website visitors’ comments, criticism, and support.



"... This website is dedicated to the Majestic documents and their related codewords such as MAJIC or MJ-12. The plan is to build a strong information base that focuses on the authenticity of these and new documents. Specifically, we plan to:

Share detailed supporting rationale for authenticity and strong linkage with known historical facts. Expand the database of credible witnesses and hard proof to the UFO/ET phenomenon.

Potentially restate the history of the United States and the World, not ignoring the role of psychological warfare deceptions.

Pay special attention to the technological implications of the documents and their potential “reverse engineering” clues to our modern science and benefiting corporations.

Offer intellectual products for sale to pay for the ongoing research team expenses.

Our hope is that over the next five years, the UFO community or other visionaries will succeed in bringing forth overwhelming proof of the UFO/ET reality with particular attention paid to recovered alien technology which will help solve planet Earth's problems of pollution, energy, population, and intolerance, and point towards unlimited energy and economical interstellar travel.

Dr. Robert M. and Ryan S. Wood

..."

Click HERE to get started...



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Initially released to members of the public in 1980's. Released after the sole remaining Majestic 12 member (of the original 12) died three months after his death. (Dr. Jerome Hunsaker). These photographs of various documents has raised much consernation. It is an under the radar issue, and the mainstream media won't touch it with a ten foot pole.

Over the last decade or two, supporting documents have surfaced. Providing the validity of all the initial Majestic Documents.

This web site is a collection of the US Government documents obtained under the Freedom of Information act and totally supports the Majestic 12 claim.

Whether your believe it or not, the knowledge that this is out "there" and "on-going" is a significant advantage to Free Republic participants.
1 posted on 04/19/2005 6:11:11 AM PDT by vannrox
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2 posted on 04/19/2005 6:16:57 AM PDT by kezekiel
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To: Quix

UFO Ping..


3 posted on 04/19/2005 6:17:47 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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Groovy.


4 posted on 04/19/2005 6:18:09 AM PDT by Huck (One day the lion will lay down with the lamb; Until that day comes, I want America to be the lion.)
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I'll believe it when one of them UFO's lands in my backyard.


5 posted on 04/19/2005 6:18:15 AM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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The Day after Roswell. Written by the man in charge of the Alien Artifacts.
6 posted on 04/19/2005 6:18:22 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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The first-ever-known UFO crash retrieval case occurred in 1941 in Cape Girardeau, Missouri.

Rush Limbaugh is from Cape Girardeau and was born in 1951.

Could Rush be an alien intelligence sent by benevolent beings, who want to rescue us from being plunged into the Dark Ages by envirowhackos?

7 posted on 04/19/2005 6:19:28 AM PDT by ikka
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bookmark for later


8 posted on 04/19/2005 6:21:25 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: vannrox

The price of tin foil just went up. (Supply and demand).


9 posted on 04/19/2005 6:21:32 AM PDT by John D
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Released after the sole remaining Majestic 12 member (of the original 12) died three months after his death.

An amazing fellow..... ;-)

10 posted on 04/19/2005 6:22:00 AM PDT by r9etb
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...Even the most sensational conspiracy of modern times?the Kennedy assassination?is likely linked to the UFO cover-up and the military cabal, as several of the documents demonstrate...

I knew it, I always knew it was aliens who killed Kennedy!
Is Arlen Sphincter one of them?


11 posted on 04/19/2005 6:24:06 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Borders language culture.)
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To: Dallas59

Ditto.


12 posted on 04/19/2005 6:24:08 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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In 1941, Cape Girardeau was named Smallville. Not for nothing is Rush referred to as the Man of Steel.


13 posted on 04/19/2005 6:24:36 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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14 posted on 04/19/2005 6:28:22 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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15 posted on 04/19/2005 6:29:10 AM PDT by TheBigB (Proudly annoying stupid people since 1970!)
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Majestic ping


16 posted on 04/19/2005 6:33:15 AM PDT by eyespysomething (hmmm....)
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Dr. Vannevar Bush

Aha! I just knew it had to be Bush's fault... ; )

17 posted on 04/19/2005 6:35:10 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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Has this thread been pulled yet?

No.

18 posted on 04/19/2005 6:35:42 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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Not just tin foil http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1386585/posts


19 posted on 04/19/2005 6:36:50 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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20 posted on 04/19/2005 6:39:45 AM PDT by evets (God bless President Bush and VP Cheney)
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I find it quite difficult to accept that a species of life with a technology base allowing it to wander the universe and survive asteroids, black holes, solar radiation, biological needs, and such would pick our planet to fix a fan belt. The existance of such aliens is not in question on my part but the idea that they crash here is the problem for moi.

If you aks me, it's more like aliens came here to watch prehistoric morons like we are some reality show like "Survivor". Instead, they found some guy named Daryl who emptied his side by side full of OO buckshot into their celestial arsses while they wus lurkin in his back yard watchin Edna n' him bumpin uglies.

21 posted on 04/19/2005 6:42:22 AM PDT by blackdog (Happy as a bastard on father's day............)
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Rush Limbaugh is from Cape Girardeau and was born in 1951. Could Rush be an alien intelligence sent by benevolent beings, who want to rescue us from being plunged into the Dark Ages by envirowhackos?

Why, there's even further proof that Rush is the son of aliens derived from the Americanized name they selected. "Baugh", though rare in Welsh, is derived from German "Bach" (and the German name Bach was also often changed to "Baugh" in the U.S., hence many folks named Baughman pronounce it Bachman). Anyway, Baugh or Bach means "small" or "little." You put it all together and you have "Little Limb" or "Small Limb."

They (the aliens) obviously chose a place deep in farm country because in their study of 1930s depression-era America, the only sturdy beef-boys were some Midwestern farmboys. And they needed to beef up their boy to pass him off as American.

As anybody ever heard was Rush's stance is on alien immigration?

22 posted on 04/19/2005 6:46:51 AM PDT by Colofornian
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I'm reading it right now. Very entertaining, very, very, off-target. Col. Corso used his very formidable imagination to dream up the content.

(No, I'm not a debunker, either. Corso has hurt Ufology with his nonsense.)


23 posted on 04/19/2005 6:49:36 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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24 posted on 04/19/2005 7:06:44 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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25 posted on 04/19/2005 7:24:45 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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TOP SECRET / MAJIC 001 EYES ONLY 
NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION 
.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TOP SECRET * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
EYES ONLY


COPY _ONE_ OF _ONE_. 


BRIEFING DOCUMENT: OPERATION MAJESTIC 12PREPARED FOR PRESIDENT-ELECT DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER: (EYES ONLY) 18 NOVEMBER, 1952 
_WARNING_: This is a TOP SECRET - EYES ONLY document containing compartmentalised information essential to the national security of the United States. EYES ONLY ACCESS to the material herein is strictly limited to those possessing Majestic-12 clearance level. Reproduction in any form or the taking of written or mechanically transcribed notes is strictly forbidden. 


* * * * * * * * * * * * TOP SECRET * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
SUBJECT: OPERATION MAJESTIC-12 PRELIMINARY BRIEFING FOR PRESIDENT-ELECT EISENHOWER DOCUMENT PREPARED 18 NOVEMBER, 1952 BRIEFING OFFICER: ADM. ROSCOE H. HILLENKOETTER (MJ-12) 

NOTE: This document has been prepared as a preliminary briefing only. It should be regarded as introductory to a full operations briefing intended to follow. 

OPERATION MAJESTIC-12 is a TOP SECRET Research and Development/ Intelligence operation responsible directly and only to the President of the United States. Operations of the project are carried out under the control of the Majestic-12 (Majic-12) Group which was established by special classified executive order of President Truman on 24 September, 1947, upon recommendation by Dr. Vannevar Bush and Secretary James Forrestal. (See Attachment "A".) Members of the Majestic-12 Group were designated as follows: 

Adm. Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter 
Dr. Vannevar Bush 
Secy. James V. Forrestal* 
Gen. Nathan P. Twining 
Gen Hoyt S. Vandenberg 
Dr. Detlev Bronk 
Dr. Jerome Hunsaker 
Mr. Sidney W. Souers 
Mr. Gordon Gray 
Dr. Donald Mensal 
Gen. Robert M. Montague 
Dr. Lloyd V. Berkner 


The death of Secretary Forrestal on 22 May, 1949, created a vacancy which remained unfilled until 01 August, 1950, upon which date Gen. Walter B. Smith was designated a permanent replacement. 

On 24 June, 1947, a civilian pilot flying over the Cascade Mountains in the State of Washington observed nine flying disc-shaped aircraft travelling in formation at a high rate of speed. Although this was not the first known sighting of such objects, it was the first to gain widespread attention in the public media. Hundreds of reports of sightings of similar objects followed. Many of these came from highly credible military and civilian sources. These reports resulted in independent efforts by several different elements of the military to ascertain the nature and purpose of these objects in the interests of national defense. A number of witnesses were interviewed and there were several unsuccessful attempts to utilize aircraft in efforts to pursue reported discs in flight. Public reaction bordered on near hysteria at times. 

In spite of these efforts, little of substance was learned about the objects until a local rancher reported that one had crashed in a remote region of New Mexico located approximately seventy-five miles northwest of Roswell Army Air Base (now Walker Field).

On 07 July, 1947, a secret operation was begun to assure recovery of the wreckage of this object for scientific study. During the course of this operation, aerial reconnaissance discovered that four small human-like beings had apparently ejected from the craft at some point before it exploded. These had fallen to earth about two miles east of the wreck-age site. All four were dead and badly decomposed due to action by predators and exposure to the elements during the approximately one week time period which had elapsed before their discovery. A special scientific team took charge of removing these bodies for study. (See attachment "C".) The wreckage of the craft was also removed to several different locations.(See Attachment "B".) Civilian and military witnesses in the area were debriefed, and news reporters were given the effective cover story that the object had been a misguided weather research balloon. 

A covert analytical effort organized by Gen. Twining and Dr. Bush acting on the direct orders of the President, resulted in a preliminary concensus (19 September, 1947) that the disc was most likely a short range reconnaissance craft. This conclusion was based for the most part on the craft's size and the apparent lack of any identifiable provisioning. (See Attachment "D".) A similar analysis of the four dead occupants was arranged by Dr. B Ronk. It was the tentative conclusions of this group (30 November, 1947) that although these creatures are human-like in appearance, the biological and evolutionary processes responsible for their development has apparently been quite different from those observed or postulated in homo sapiens. Dr. Bronk's team has suggested the term "Extra-terrestrial Biological Entities", or "EBE's", be adopted as the standard term of reference for these creatures until such time as a more definitive designation can be agreed upon. 

Since it is virtually certain that these craft do not originate in any country on earth, considerable speculation has centered around what their point of origin might be and how they get here. Mars was and remains a possibility, although some scientists, most notably Dr. Menzel, consider it more likely that we are dealing with beings from another solar system entirely. Numerous examples of what appear to be a form of writing were found in the wreckage. Efforts to decipher these have remained largely unsuccessful. (See Attachment "E".) Equally unsuccessful have been efforts to determine the method of propulsion or the nature or method of transmission of the power source involved. Research along these lines has been complicated by the complete absence of identifiable wings, propellers, jets, or other conventional methods of propulsion and guidance, as well as a total lack of metallic wiring, vacuum tubes, or similar recognizable electronic components. (See Attachment "F".) It is assumed that the propulsion unit was completely destroyed by the explosion which caused the crash. 

A need for as much additional information as possible about these craft, their performance characteristics and their purpose led to the undertaking known as U. S. Air Force Project SIGN in December, 1947. In order to preserve security, liaison between SIGN and Majestic-12 was limited to two individuals within the Intelligence Division of Air Material Command whose role was to pass along certain types of information through channels. SIGN evolved into Project GRUDGE in December, 1948. The operation is currently being conducted under the code name BLUE BOOK, with liaison maintained through the Air Force officer who is head of the project. On 06 December, 1950, a second object, probably of similar origin, impacted the earth at high speed in the El Indio - Guerrero area of the Texas - Mexican border after following a long trajectory through the atmosphere. By the time a search team arrived, what remained of the object had been almost totally incinerated. Such material as could be recovered was transported to the A. E. C. facility at Sandia, New Mexico, for study. 

Implications for the National Security are of continuing importance in that the motives and ultimate intentions of these visitors remain completely unknown. In addition, a significant upsurge in the surveillance activity of these craft beginning in May and continuing through the autumn of this year has caused considerable concern that new developments may be imminent. It is for these reasons, as well as the obvious international and technological considerations and the ultimate need to avoid a public panic at all costs, that the Majestic-12 Group remains of the unanimous opinion that imposition of the strictest security precautions should continue without interruption into the new administration. At the same time, contingency plan MJ-1949-04P/78 (Top Secret - Eyes Only) should be held in continued readiness should the need to make a public announcement present itself. (See Attachment "G".) 


THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON 
Sep

tember 24, 1947MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE

Dear Secretary Forrestal: 

As per our recent conversation on this matter, you are hereby authorized to proceed with all due speed and caution upon your undertaking. Hereafter this matter shall be referred to only as Operation Majestic Twelve. It continues to be my feeling that any future considerations relative to the ultimate disposition of this matter should rest solely with the Office of the President following appropriate discussions with yourself, Dr. Bush and the Director of CentralIntelligence. 

/s/Harry Truman 


July 14, 1954 

_TOP SECRET RESTRICTED_SECURITY INFORMATION_MEMORANDUM FOR GENERAL TWINING SUBJECT: NSC/MJ-12 Special Studies Project 

The President has decided that the MJ-12 SSP briefing should take place _during_ the already scheduled White House meeting of July 16, rather than following it as previously intended. More precise arrangements will be explained to you upon arrival. Please alter your plans accordingly. Your concurrence in the above change of arrangements is assumed. 

ROBERT CUTLER 

Special Assistant to the President 


Declassified COPY Authority: NND 857013 from by 912/TH Date 1/12/87THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES Record Group No. RG341 Records of the Headquarters, United States Air Force


THE PRESIDENT'S APPOINTMENTS
FRIDAY, JULY 16, 1954.

8.50 - The President will receive the Governor of the Farm Credit Administration and the Members of the Federal Farm Credit Board
9.00 - Cabinet Meeting

11.00 - The President will sign S. 3291, An Act "Authorizing the President to present a gold medal to Irving Berlin"

12.15 - The President will receive a group of Congressmen, who wish to pay their res- pects and pledge their continuing support of the President's program.

1.00 - (LUNCH)


NATIONAL ARCHIVES Washington, DC 20408

Date: July 22, 1987
Reply to
attn of: Military Reference Branch


Subject: Reference Report on MJ-12

To: The Record

The National Archives has received many requests for documentation and information about "Project MJ-12". Many of the inquiries concern a memorandum from Robert Cutler to General Nathan Twining, dated July 14, 1954. This particular document poses problems for the following reasons:

1. The document was located in Record Group 341, entry 267. The series is filed by a Top Secret register number. This document does not bear such a number. 

2. The document is in the folder T4-1846. There are no other documents in the folder regarding "NSC/MJ-12". 

3. The Military Reference Branch (Edward Reese) has conducted a search in the records of the Secretary of Defense, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Headquarters US Air Force, and in other related files. No further information has been found on this subject. 

4. Inquiries to the US Air Force, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the National Security Council failed to produce further information. 

5. The Acting Director of the Freedom of Information Office of the National Security Council informed us that "Top Secret Restricted Information" is a marking which did not come into use at the National Security Council until the Nixon Administration. The Eisenhower Presidential Library also confirms that this particular marking was not used during the Eisenhower Administration. 

6. The document in question does not bear an official government letterhead or watermark. The NARA conservation specialist (Mary Ritzenthaler) examined the paper and determined it was a ribbon copy prepared on "dictation onionskin". The Eisenhower Library has examined its collection of the Cutler papers. All documents created by Mr. Cutler while he served on the NSC staff have an eagle watermark in the onionskin carbon paper. Most documents sent out by the NSC were prepared on White House letterhead paper. For the brief period when Mr. Cutler left the NSC, his carbon copies were prepared on "prestige onionskin".

7. The Judicial, Fiscal, and Social Branch searched the Official Meeting Minute Files of the National Security Council and found no record of a NSC meeting on July 16, 1954. A search of all NSC Meeting Minutes fro July 1954 found no mention of MJ- 12 nor Majestic. 

8. The Judicial, Fiscal and Social Branch (Mary Ronan) searched the indices [sic] of the NSC records and found no listing for: MJ-12, Majestic, unidentified flying objects, UFO, flying saucers, or flying discs. 

9. The Judicial, Fiscal, and Social Branch (Mary Ronan) found a memo in a folder titled "Special Meeting July 16, 1954" which indicated that NSC members would be called to a civil defense exercise on July 16, 1954. 

10. The Eisenhower Library states, in a letter to NNMR, dated July 16, 1987: 
"President Eisenhower's Appointment Books contain no entry for a special meeting on July 16, 1954 which might have included a briefing on MJ-12. Even when the President had `off the record' meetings, the Appointment Books contain entries indicating the time of the meeting and the participants.... The Declassification Office of the National Security Council has informed us that it has no record of any declassification action having been taken on this memorandum or any other documents on this alleged project.... Robert Cutler, at the direction of President Eisenhower, was visiting overseas military installations on the day he supposedly issued this memorandum -- July 14, 1954. The Administration Series in Eisenhower's Papers as President contains Cutler's memorandum and report to the President upon his return from the trip. The memorandum is dated July 20, 1954 and refers to Cutler's visits to installations in Europe and North Africa between July 3 and 15. Also, within the NSC Staff Papers is a memorandum dated July 3, 1954, from Cutler to his two subordinates, James S. Lay and J. Patrick Coyne, explaining how they should handle NSC administrative matters during his absence; one would assume that if the memorandum, to Twining were genuine, Lay or Coyne would have signed it." 


JO ANNE WILLIAMSON
Chief, Military Reference Branch
Military Archives Division



26 posted on 04/19/2005 7:28:24 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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I'm not going to read all of that right now. Could you summarize what the significance of your posting is as a reply to my posting?


27 posted on 04/19/2005 7:46:22 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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The MSM "won't touch it with a ten-foot pole", but I'll bet Art Bell is all over it.

Utterly ridiculous, IMO. Anyone that may have had access to all these documents would have had to have had a BBR -- Burn Before Reading -- security clearance, and those are extremely hard to come by.


28 posted on 04/19/2005 7:56:14 AM PDT by thelastvirgil (Help stamp out incumbent politicians: Public enemy number one.)
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The trouble with all this is that it's so badly imagined. I write science fiction professionally, and I can come up with a much better scenario for alien observation of the Earth than just cruising around at low altitude taking snapshots.

If there are aliens watching us, their probes are small, disguised as birds or bugs, or else are up in orbit. They wouldn't act like artillery spotting planes.

Moreover, if this has been known since 1947, why keep it a secret? Wouldn't the US boast about its access to superior alien technology, especially in the depths of the Cold War? What's the _point_?

I can find records giving the exact location of every US nuclear weapon in 1947. Secrets get old and eventually stop being secret. Can anyone really believe that this would have remained hidden under blabbermouth administrations like Carter and Clinton?

Give it a rest!


29 posted on 04/19/2005 8:04:17 AM PDT by Trimegistus
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To: John D
The price of tin foil just went up. (Supply and demand).

..I already have 4 rolls...@ 4 x 200 sq.ft. (66.6 yd x 12') ea...I'm ready.

30 posted on 04/19/2005 8:05:04 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: Colofornian

In German "Bach" means a brook or a stream. "Klein" or "Kleine" is the word for "little".


31 posted on 04/19/2005 8:14:03 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Trimegistus

"Give it a rest!"

I've never understood that attitude when it comes to Ufology here on FR. If you don't like the conversation, that's fine by me, but why demand that vanroxx "give it a rest" or otherwise not post such material? If JimRob didn't like it, he'd have the mods pull it, and that's good enough for me.

I've said it before, and I'll now say it again: The studied consideration of UFO's, whatever they may be in any given case, is a conservative issue. Notice I say "studied" - I mean logical, reasoned thought on the matter, not the true tinfoil "baby-eating-alien-lizards" stuff.


32 posted on 04/19/2005 8:14:22 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Colofornian
Why, there's even further proof..As anybody ever heard was Rush's stance is on alien immigration?

OH! NO!..We've been found out! quick, "Spin-Up" the disgraificator...First, It was the World Weeky News/Daily Star Supermarket Rags..his "2003 problems"..Now this! :^)

33 posted on 04/19/2005 8:15:02 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: Frank_Discussion

I meant Vannrox. Not Vanroxx.


34 posted on 04/19/2005 8:15:33 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: ikka

only if the gestation period of an alien was 10 years. (1941-1951).


35 posted on 04/19/2005 8:16:27 AM PDT by timtoews5292004
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To: Dallas59

If you don't live in a mobile home, chances are slim.


36 posted on 04/19/2005 8:20:49 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Trimegistus
Although I doubt that extraterrestrials exist, it is the worst kind of mistake to assume that, if ETs did (or do) exist, we could understand their motives in any way. The inhabitants of Bikini Atoll in the 1940s and '50s had no real understanding of what an A-bomb was or what the strange white men who came to their islands in iron ships were doing with all their strange boxes and gizmos -- but at least they recognized the white sailors as fellow human beings who were up to something. We might not even be able to recognize an ET as a living creature at all, much less be able to figure out its motivations. My guess is that extraterrestrial aliens (if any) would be so psychologically different from humans that we might never be able to figure out their motives. It would be like a flock of crows trying to figure out what van Gogh was doing with his easel and paints. From a human perspective the motives, actions, and purposes of ET behavior would probably seem random, incomprehensible, and without logical purpose.

Which of course is precisely the way they have been described to act by UFO witnesses and "abductees".

I spent most of the years 1989-1991 researching the whole UFO thing. My conclusion is that 99% of it is sheer bunkum -- but that the remaining 1% is very interesting indeed. I came away doubtful that ETs exist, but almost certain that the U.S. government is sitting on some kind of Big Secret -- if not the existence of ETs, then something even more esoteric and weird. I'd pay a pretty penny to know what the Big Secret is.

37 posted on 04/19/2005 8:31:05 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Darksheare; Dead Corpse; NicknamedBob; RightWhale; RadioAstronomer; Dawsonville_Doc; mhking; ...

hehhehheh... bflr, should be good reading after work


38 posted on 04/19/2005 8:31:10 AM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: thelastvirgil
I'll bet Art Bell is all over it

Coast with Linda Moulton Howe had a roundtable discussion last week for four hours. Mainly they reviwed the older documents, especially from during WW II up to Roswell.

39 posted on 04/19/2005 8:40:57 AM PDT by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: King Prout

I didn't do it.
It is NOT my fault.
Any similarities between anything I 'jokingly' type and actual parallel dimensions is solely coincidental.
/ end standard denial form 1d1d-2.


40 posted on 04/19/2005 8:46:39 AM PDT by Darksheare (Restrain the duck, he'll tell us all he knows once he's plucked. -Chief Interrogator Bluejay)
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To: RightWhale

Bump for later


41 posted on 04/19/2005 8:56:55 AM PDT by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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To: King Prout

A little reverse engineering on that so-called fusion engine would be diverting, as well.

But power is not the problem at the moment. We need a better means of propulsion.

Metals, alloys, ... ptui! -- What about the engines?


42 posted on 04/19/2005 8:58:15 AM PDT by NicknamedBob (Brevity is the soul of wit. -- That's why we all look funny in our briefs.)
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To: thelastvirgil

I was scheduled to get one of those, but they burned it before I got it.


43 posted on 04/19/2005 9:00:37 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: vannrox

I will say the one thing that freaks me out a little about the Roswell story is that, one of the older tales from the "eyewitnesses" at Roswell, was they found metal that was like "tin foil" (insert joke here), however when you folded it up or crushed it; the metal would resume its shape with no creases and it couldn't really be scratched. Well in the last few years science has created Nano-tubulars, I believe they are called, and other nano-tech according to the reports it will created very thin sheets of metal like tin foil, which would keep its shape after use.


44 posted on 04/19/2005 9:02:18 AM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: jbwbubba

We've also developed "memory-metal" that has similar properties. Truth is stranger than fiction.


45 posted on 04/19/2005 9:05:31 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: jbwbubba
The truth of the matter is this...

  • It is absurd to believe that we are the only intelligent form of life in the universe.
  • It is absurd to neglect the effects of time, and to not realize that life could of evolved, much like we believe, billions and billions of years before our own sun existed.
  • When most creatures take 10+ Million years to evolve, how can it be that we only evolved in a mere 3 Million Years?
  • What did the painters during the Flemish period of art paint "Flying saucers" in the sky on their paintings.
  • The truth be known, it is probably more likely that we live in a very crowded universe. Inhabited by creatures far superior to us in technology.
  • And, one must realize that we are so ignorant in our understanding of the universe, that our level of technology could of well be trapped in the stone age. The only people who understand even a small percentage of our universe are quantum physists.


But that is ok with me.This Majestic issue is the mother of all mysteries. Enjoy it. Read about it. Love it, hate it. I causes you to face your own being. Most peole don't like that.

46 posted on 04/19/2005 9:22:16 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: vannrox
And the data gleaned from the UFO is the reason we developed cold Fusion in the early 1950s and went on to rule the world in peace and prospertity.

SO9

47 posted on 04/19/2005 9:25:04 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: vannrox

Why is it absurb to believe that we are the only life in the universe that is capable of space travel? It makes perfect sense to believe this. After all, we are the only life form that is capable of space travel on this planet (out of thousands and thousands of species). What is the chance that this could happen anywhere else? I'd say about zero.


48 posted on 04/19/2005 9:31:50 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: vannrox

What I find most interesting about these claims is that no one seems to be saying that today, there are craft(s) that are crashing into our planet. Why is that?

50 years ago, apparently there were a lot of crashes, but now they have suddenly stopped?

50 years ago these "alien beings" were advanced enough, technologically speaking, to traverse the great distances between solar systems, but couldn't build a craft that wouldn't crash?

And now they can? Does it make sense to believe that the greatest technological achievement these aliens have made in the last 50 years is the ability to do what a commercial jet liner can do?

I suppose one might answer by saying, "Well, we just don't hear about the crashes today. 50 years from now, we'll probably hear about the ones today".

*shrug* Ok!

Still begs the question above: They (the aliens) can build some kind of spaceship that can travel between solar systems, possibly galaxies, but have trouble staying aloft in a planet's atmosphere?

(Note: This doesn't mean that when I get home, I won't be turning out all the lights, cracking open a beer and reading all these documents. hehe I DO love a good conspiracy theory :-) )


49 posted on 04/19/2005 9:34:58 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Austin Willard Wright

"What is the chance that this could happen anywhere else? I'd say about zero."

This speculation is based on what?


50 posted on 04/19/2005 10:22:03 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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