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Rush's Lifeson, son spared jail
Jam Music ^ | 04/21/05 | unknown

Posted on 04/21/2005 12:37:38 PM PDT by Salo

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To: MisterRepublican; Rushgrrl
Rush has a new girl? What happened to the CNN chick? lol

That's who I meant. I thought maybe our Rushgrrl is her.

41 posted on 04/21/2005 1:16:34 PM PDT by ASA Vet (The speed of time is one second per second.)
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To: Salo
Rush's hits have included Tom Sawyer, Limelight and The Spirit of Radio since the Toronto trio's first album debuted in 1974.

Apparently the author is too young to remember the seminal work, 2112.

42 posted on 04/21/2005 1:19:22 PM PDT by Ignatz (Evolution IS intelligent design!)
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To: evets
"Rush when he was a wild thing."

Looked like Hoss Cartwright with a moustache.

43 posted on 04/21/2005 1:19:33 PM PDT by OldEagle (We might be in the end times, but it looks like we are finally moving in the RIGHT direction.)
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To: Renfield
Rush, in its day, was a great band. Their live album, "All the World's a Stage", is one of my favorites. Give it a listen. (They were at their peak then; their music got pretty boring afterwards.)

Rush has had several peaks. They have alays made interesting music. If you want a real surprise, get the Rush in Rio DVD. This was done in 2002 or 2003, and they are truly better than they have ever been. Plus they play several of the oldies on that DVD, and there are some 'easter eggs' hidden on there that you would like.

44 posted on 04/21/2005 1:29:07 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Salo
but I still hate to see justice being bought.

That's a tad harsh. It was probably an ARD (accelerated rehabilitative disposition) case since Alex and his son probably had no prior criminal record in FL. Chances are that's why it was reduced from a felony to a misdemeanor, not because Alex greased anyone's palm (but hey, it's Florida - who knows? :^).

BTW - some great shows! I caught Rush on the Counterparts and Test For Echo tours. They're probably one of the most consistently great live rock acts still around: if I go to one show this year, it'll probably be a Rush concert.

45 posted on 04/21/2005 1:44:20 PM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: ASA Vet
When rock and roll turned into drug noise I stopped listening. I'm stuck in the 50's & early 60's.

You're showing your age, my FRiend! :-)

Thanks for your service, BTW.

46 posted on 04/21/2005 1:47:14 PM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: Salo
"Lifeson tried to intervene, deputies said. They accused Rush's founding member of pushing a female deputy down a stairwell and spitting in another deputy's face."


Real class.
47 posted on 04/21/2005 1:55:50 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: ASA Vet
They had a different drummer back then. The current lineup dates to '74.

They can still pack them in. Their 2002 tour finished off with two gigs in South America, one with 40,000 in attendance, the other with 60,000. Not bad for three washed-up 50 year-old rock n rollers....

48 posted on 04/21/2005 2:35:59 PM PDT by Disambiguator (This tagline should only be taken under the advice of your doctor.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Witness: Police mistreated Rush guitarist in ruckus

For the past year, John Cannivet said he has had to bite his tongue as he's read distorted versions of an altercation he witnessed between the lead guitarist for Rush and Collier sheriff's deputies on Dec. 31, 2003.

As an employee of The Ritz-Carlton, Naples, where the fracas occurred, he hadn't been allowed to comment, even though he saw first-hand what happened in the stairwell of the hotel.

But now that he no longer works for the hotel, he has this to say: Collier County sheriff's deputies went way too far.

"It was extreme police brutality," said Cannivet, who was the assistant manager of stewarding until leaving that job in January. "The whole time all this was going down, I'm thinking, 'God, what did these people do? It must have been something really bad.' It just bothered me."

He believes he is a neutral source, not tied to the Sheriff's Office or hotel security. When he worked at the Ritz, his office was near the stairwell. He heard a fight going on, so he went to take a look.

His description of what unfolded is very different from that given by deputies.

Deputies in their arrest reports argue that they had no choice but to use force to subdue an unruly and intoxicated Alex Zivojinovich, known as Alex Lifeson in the internationally known rock group Rush.

A deputy acknowledged that he punched Alex Zivojinovich in the nose as Alex was charging up the stairwell toward another deputy. Alex was zapped repeatedly with a stun gun, known as a Taser, before being arrested.

Deputies in their reports also defended their use of a stun gun on Alex's son, Justin Zivojinovich, who is accused of getting the ball rolling when he got onto the house band stage at the hotel during a New Year's Eve celebration and started talking into the microphone.

A hotel security official asked deputies to escort Justin from the property.

Cannivet said the fracas in the stairwell that occurred while Justin was being escorted from the hotel could have been avoided.

"They (deputies) didn't have to use that force," he said. "When they shot Justin (with a stun gun), Justin wasn't violent at all. He was walking with the police. All he did was quit walking."

He said Justin and a deputy had words, and he saw Justin quit walking, and then the deputy pulled his Taser out. He said Justin backed away into a corner, seemingly scared.

"He kind of put his hands up. He kind of froze, and then they shot him (with the Taser)," Cannivet said. "If I were to describe what it looked like after he got shot, it looked like a severe seizure.

"He was just out of it because he was electrocuted for a long time. If you could have seen how bad he was twitching on the ground, and screaming and crying, because it hurt so bad."

As Alex Zivojinovich saw this unfold, he charged up the stairs to help his son, Cannivet said.

"And that is when the female officer threw him (Alex) down the stairs," he said.

One of the two felony battery-on-a-law-enforcement charges that Alex Zivojinovich is facing, which could carry a five-year prison sentence, accuses him of throwing Collier sheriff's Cpl. Amy Stanford down the stairs, causing her injury.

Cannivet said that just isn't so.

"I watched the female cop (Stanford) throw him (Alex) down there. She was three stairs above him, and so she had leverage. She grabbed him by the throat and he went falling backward," Cannivet said.

According to her personnel file, Stanford was a former Naples High School athletic standout, who, as a Collier sheriff's corporal, seems to "charge head-long into situations requiring two or more officers."

Cannivet said from his perspective, deputies simply failed to control the situation.

His testimony could be critical for the defense if it goes to trial as a "he-said, she-said" case. Even though the Ritz has security cameras, there is no tape showing the altercation in the stairwell, prosecutor Rich Montecalvo said in court last week.

After last week's hearing, in which a judge set a trial date of April 18 for Justin's case, Montecalvo said he had no comment about or response to Cannivet's statements.

"I don't know what would motivate him," Montecalvo said.

Sheri Mausen, a spokeswoman for the Collier County Sheriff's Office, also said the agency wasn't going to respond.

"We're not going to try this case out of the court," she said.

Cannivet's allegation of "extreme police brutality" isn't shared by at least one other witness who was in the stairwell.

Frank Barner, the resort's security manager on duty that night, said he saw sheriff's Cpl. Scott Russell hit Alex Zivojinovich to "hold him back" after he made an "aggressive" move toward Stanford.

Barner praised the way the deputies handled the situation, saying there was "extreme violence" on the part of the Zivojinovich family.

"The deputies had given multiple warnings to these people. ... It escalated from a simple trespass to physical violence. Justin was extremely violent, kept yelling at deputies, using profanity," Barner says in a statement to deputies. "I remember him going from a kneeling position (to) upright, turning around, and pointed at (sheriff's deputy) Chris Knott, telling him to back the (expletive) off."

Moreover, Knott didn't paint a picture of a subdued Justin Zivojinovich prior to his zapping with a stun gun.

He states in his report that as deputies entered the service stairwell, Justin began to struggle and swing his right elbow at Stanford's face.

He states that, as he escorted Justin Zivojinovich to the ground, he felt Alex Zivojinovich pushing into him.

"As the situation began to escalate, with several people filling the stairwell, I removed my Taser (stun gun) and warned Alex to keep away," Knott writes in his report. "I turned to assist in handcuffing Justin and he began to thrash his body. I warned deputies of my intention to Tase the wildly combative Justin."

The conflicting versions would have to be sorted out by a jury, but it's not yet certain when the case will get tried.

A sounding hearing has been scheduled for April 27 for lawyers and a judge to get an update on Alex's case. A tentative trial date of May 16 has been scheduled.

"I think it (the case) is going to trial," said his Naples defense attorney, Jerry Berry, as he recently was leaving the Collier courthouse.

Rush is known for hits such as "Tom Sawyer." Alex Zivojinovich won Best Rock Talent in 1983 in the category "Guitar for the Practicing Musician." He was inducted into the Guitar for the Practicing Musician Hall of Fame in May 1991.

His Yugoslavian parents immigrated to Canada, and he bought a seasonal residence in Naples. His only formal training was during Rush's early days on the Toronto club circuit.

The Rolling Stone magazine Web site said Rush "carved itself a place in the prog-rock elite through three decades of popular releases."

From an article in The Naples News by John Henderson on April 10, 2005.

49 posted on 04/21/2005 2:40:18 PM PDT by joan
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To: spodefly

I saw them live in Rupp Arena in 1978 and I think it was the best concert I ever saw, but I honestly didn't like anything I heard from them after that...but I'll sidle over to Amazon and listen to a few snippets of Rush in Rio.


50 posted on 04/21/2005 2:54:28 PM PDT by Renfield (Philosophy chair at the University of Wallamalloo!!)
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To: MisterRepublican
Yeah, I was into Rush back in the 70s/80s. "Red Barchetta" from 1981's "Moving Pictures" has always been a favorite.

Wow! Rush is in a band, too? Between his radio program, speaking engagements, and golf tournaments, where does he find the time to tour with a band?

51 posted on 04/21/2005 3:10:28 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Renfield
1978? man, you are ancient! :)) I listened for free, the Who, Rolling Stones and The Clash when they toured Buffalo NY in 1981 and played at Rich Stadium where I listened to it for free :)

ps..i was just entering jr high, so i am a young whipper snapper back then... :)

52 posted on 04/21/2005 4:21:59 PM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: Salo

I was working this story actually for my own paper. But of all weeks to come down with the flu...it was THIS week. I heard about the plea yesterday afternoon so the news was no shock to me today. The prosecution was really basing their story on a lynch mob of cops who really f-cked up their stories and lies about the event.


53 posted on 04/21/2005 8:41:51 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ( "I think she did too much coke, ahh you think so Doctor?")
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To: Renfield

Yeah that whole Hemispheres,Permanent Waves,Moving Pictures, Exit Stage Left...,Signals, Grace Under Pressure, Power Windows, Presto,Counterparts,Vapor Trails, Rush In Rio...yeah...total lame boring stuff..NOT!

Roll The Bones,Test For Echo,Different Stages,and portions of Hold Your Fire I will give you. But you wrote off Rush's best work.


54 posted on 04/21/2005 8:44:32 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ( "I think she did too much coke, ahh you think so Doctor?")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Lifeson is 52. Far cry from 65.


55 posted on 04/21/2005 8:45:33 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ( "I think she did too much coke, ahh you think so Doctor?")
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Fact was...the reason the charges were knocked down was because a collier sheriff came up and punched Lifeson in the face breaking his nose. He grabbed the deputy to break his fall down a flight of stairs and she went down with him. The media has had fun trying to make Alex this out of control monster that night. He simply isn't.

I have interviewed him a few times and met him on numerous occassions. He is FAR from being that guy they describe and the story was discredited.


56 posted on 04/21/2005 8:48:56 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ( "I think she did too much coke, ahh you think so Doctor?")
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To: All

IT AIN'T LIMBAUGH!


57 posted on 04/21/2005 8:51:55 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state and Georgia, the rotten peach, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Oh, OK then. At that age, that type of behavior is acceptable then, LOL!


58 posted on 04/22/2005 6:09:18 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Rushgrrl
it never ceases to amaze me how people who are to read and post fail to do one of the two

And it never ceases to amaze me how many people are so utterly tone deaf to sarcasm or humor.

59 posted on 04/22/2005 6:19:16 AM PDT by BlackRazor
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To: BlackRazor

well maybe it shouldn't as this IS text and unless TONE it denoted then it's not to be ASSumed, IMHO.


60 posted on 04/22/2005 3:33:00 PM PDT by Rushgrrl (~brought to you from the illegal-rich state of California~)
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