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Heinz squeezes blame from pope (Teresa)
TRIBUNE-REVIEW ^ | April 22, 2005 | Eric Heyl

Posted on 04/23/2005 11:48:35 AM PDT by bitt

Were it not for the man now known as Pope Benedict XVI, Teresa Heinz might already have installed new drapes and carpeting in the White House. Or so she seems to believe.

Based on remarks Heinz made recently at a Seattle money-raiser, the Pittsburgh ketchup heiress -- a practicing Catholic -- appears to have little fondness for the new pontiff.

You can almost understand why. He did, if you buy her argument, indirectly help keep her husband, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., from becoming president last year.

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported last month that Heinz blamed Kerry's inability to unseat President Bush on anything and everything but Kerry himself.

She implied votes might have been improperly tabulated because most optical scanning devices used to count votes in many parts of the country are owned by two "hard-right" Republicans.

She also suggested the Kerry campaign was brought down in part by Catholic bishops who assailed the candidate's pro-choice view on abortion.

"You cannot have bishops in the pulpit -- long before or the Sunday before the election, as they did in Catholic churches -- saying it was a mortal sin to vote for John Kerry," she said. "The church has a right and obligation to teach values. They don't have a right to restrict freedom of expression, which they did."

I assume the Post-Intelligencer's Joel Connelly did his best to accurately quote her. No reporter wants to have to ask Heinz to clarify her remarks immediately after she finishes speaking.

We've heard it can be dangerous.

Last summer, American bishops received a letter from the Vatican advising that Catholics who condone abortion are committing "a grave sin."

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1 posted on 04/23/2005 11:48:41 AM PDT by bitt
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To: bitt
"Aw, now the POPE is mad at us, too!"


2 posted on 04/23/2005 11:49:11 AM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: bitt

If Laura Bush had this woman's personality, it would be front-page fodder on all of the liberal papers. She would be portrayed as some right-wing psychopath. Since it's Teresa, well.....


3 posted on 04/23/2005 11:51:02 AM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: More atrocities have been perpetrated with a hot glue gun, than with a hand gun)
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To: bitt

Thank GOD she is not our First Lady!


4 posted on 04/23/2005 11:51:27 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: bitt
"The church has a right and obligation to teach values. They don't have a right to restrict freedom of expression, which they did."

Funny, I thought that respecting the lives of the innoncent was a value. I fail to see how anyone's freedom of expression was restricted. The Good Lord knows that no one can get her to shut up.

6 posted on 04/23/2005 11:52:48 AM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: More atrocities have been perpetrated with a hot glue gun, than with a hand gun)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Thank GOD she is not our First Lady!

We don't cotton to that racist talk around here. After all , she IS an African-American.

7 posted on 04/23/2005 11:54:12 AM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: bitt

Why do people listen to this woman? What has she ever accomplished, achieved or overcome in her life that demands we pay her any attention at all? Shes a drunken fool who was left a ton of money by her late husband. Big deal.
If I want to listen to the ramblings of some over the hill booze hound of a broad I'd go hang out in some flea bag bar room.


8 posted on 04/23/2005 11:55:49 AM PDT by warsaw44
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To: Paul Atreides

Waiting for her to explain why it was okay for her husband to use the pulpits of black churches to make political speeches.


9 posted on 04/23/2005 11:56:00 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: bitt

What defeated Kerry was his exposure as a phoney in just about every way. Surely Teresa knows that about him by now. Maybe they compliment each other. They are both good at blaming others for their failings.


11 posted on 04/23/2005 11:56:42 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not everything that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: bitt

 

Every time this woman opens her pie hole, I gotta post this picture.

You'd think she'd learn...

12 posted on 04/23/2005 11:57:03 AM PDT by Fintan (Someday we'll look back on this moment and plow into a parked car.)
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To: All
"You cannot have bishops in the pulpit -- long before or the Sunday before the election, as they did in Catholic churches -- saying it was a mortal sin to vote for John Kerry," she said. "The church has a right and obligation to teach values. They don't have a right to restrict freedom of expression, which they did."

Nonsense, as if such instructions were aimed personally at Jean-François.

13 posted on 04/23/2005 11:59:37 AM PDT by dighton
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To: bitt
"They don't have a right to restrict freedom of expression, which they did."

And yet, Theraaayyza...you would restrict their freedom of expression and their freedom of religion?

My dear Mzzz. Heinz, you are a dangerous lunatic. Get back on your meds and STFU.

14 posted on 04/23/2005 12:00:07 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (The way that you wander is the way that you choose. The day that you tarry is the day that you lose.)
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To: bitt
"The church has a right and obligation to teach values. They don't have a right to restrict freedom of expression, which they did."

But she has a right to restrict the Church's freedom of expression?!!!!

15 posted on 04/23/2005 12:00:20 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: bitt

The woman is absolutely flippin' delusional.


16 posted on 04/23/2005 12:01:12 PM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: warsaw44

Who's listening---I'm in it for the laughs?


17 posted on 04/23/2005 12:05:29 PM PDT by cherokee1
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To: bitt
They don't have a right to restrict freedom of expression...

Shaddap.

18 posted on 04/23/2005 12:07:14 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: bitt
You know, if a politician considers himself a Catholic then he should carry his faith to his politics.

So Kerry is "against abortion" but his voters are "for abortion." He SHOULD make his stand against it. That is the honorable thing to do. This goes for Lieberman too, as he should take his religious beliefs (Orthodox Judaism) to the Senate. This goes for ALL politicians of all faiths.

Just imagine if you substituted the word "abortion" for "slavery." It's NOT the issue, it's the absolutes of TRUTH. To do anything less is absolute hypocrisy.

As Benedict XVI said -- Truth is not determined by a majority vote.

19 posted on 04/23/2005 12:07:57 PM PDT by starfish923 (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Like trying to convince your wife, and yourself, that the wallet-sucking hunk of metal in the driveway really isn't a "lemon", when you know, deep down, that it is.


20 posted on 04/23/2005 12:08:08 PM PDT by digger48
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To: bitt

If this is true, we have much to thank the pope for already. He helped save 300 million people.


21 posted on 04/23/2005 12:08:14 PM PDT by bigsigh
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To: Fintan

22 posted on 04/23/2005 12:08:32 PM PDT by scott says
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To: bitt

And not only did the Pope NOT serve in Vietnam, he also has NO Purple Hearts.
So There!


23 posted on 04/23/2005 12:09:48 PM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; Fintan; bitt
Don't Bogart them brews !!!


24 posted on 04/23/2005 12:10:08 PM PDT by Tuba Guy (' I has spoken !! ')
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To: scott says
dude. that graphic was a hoot, so I checked out your homepage. It was in my mind for years to do a bumper sticker that said, 'the sixties are over!. I got this idea during Clinton campaign #1.

And you know what, don't be afraid to express your opinion on your truck! you'd be surprised how many people agree with you. the ones that don't, if you're a FReeper, are probably quite the minority. And if not, all the more reason to speak up.

The Public Square is where the change begins, bud -- the marketplace of ideas. Be tasteful and respectful, but be bold and true. And funny. Like that graphic.

And if lunies can "come out," how much more the normal folk?

25 posted on 04/23/2005 12:14:13 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (In Honor of Terri Schiavo. http://209.245.58.70/frosty65/ Let it load and have the sound on.)
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To: bitt

Who's John Kerry?


26 posted on 04/23/2005 12:15:22 PM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: Pookyhead
"I think she is "12 Gin soaked" rasins away from 2 scoops."

Excellent observation. She reminds me somewhat of a drunk dominatrix I once knew.

27 posted on 04/23/2005 12:20:15 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: bitt; All

Teresa, since you're new to this country, let me try to explain how our Constitution and Bill of Rights work.

People have freedom of speech. That means they can say what they want. The fact they are members of a religious organization does not deny them of that right.

For example, the REVEREND Jesse Jackson has the right to be highly critical of George Bush. The REVEREND Al Sharpton can even run for President. And oh yes, this also applies to people who belong to the Catholic Church. They're allowed to express their opinions too.

Got it?

Tomorrow: the Second Amendment.


28 posted on 04/23/2005 12:22:30 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Thanks, I appreciate your feedback.I have no problem expressing my views,normally.The concern I have is that potential customers will be turned off and not call me.If I was in Omaha or Cleveland, no problem.But I am in the SF Bay Area and am outnumbered, about 10 to 1 ! But I like your attitude and maybe your right- I should just do it!!
29 posted on 04/23/2005 12:23:01 PM PDT by scott says
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To: bitt; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Interesting Times; ...


John Kerry-Heinz is driving his gas-electric hybrid Ford now I assume - waiting period is only 1-2 months for a Toyota Prius hybrid - but the $10,000 over list price is more than Kerry-Heinz can afford I guess.


30 posted on 04/23/2005 12:25:21 PM PDT by devolve (My WWII Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WhiteCliffsOfDover.html - more traffic than DU-Koz-LDot -)
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To: cherokee1

That I can understand.
It just drives me nuts the way the press comes running to listen to this woman as if she is some wise yogi dispensing life lessons.
If some blood shot broad at the local ' sip and spew ' were calling a press conference I'd expect no one to notice or care.


31 posted on 04/23/2005 12:25:46 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: bitt
Did somebody - anybody - actually say that it was a mortal sin to vote for John Kerry? I don't remember hearing or seeing that.
32 posted on 04/23/2005 12:25:51 PM PDT by Bernard (Memory is the second thing to go. I forget what goes first.)
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To: Paul Atreides
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That was exactly the line that smacked me in the forehead. Does she listen to the words coming out of her mouth?

33 posted on 04/23/2005 12:31:31 PM PDT by Faith
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To: devolve

Imagine, if it wasn't for Teresa's big mouth, "Hanoi John" might have been prez.   Keep talking Terry.


34 posted on 04/23/2005 12:33:10 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: warsaw44

this newspaper seems to be trolling for Kerry/Heinz stories to bust them on...it is a pleasure to read them.


35 posted on 04/23/2005 12:33:35 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: bitt
"She also suggested the Kerry campaign was brought down in part by Catholic bishops who assailed the candidate's pro-choice view on abortion."

To an extent she is probably correct.

37 posted on 04/23/2005 12:41:45 PM PDT by Meldrim
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I agree.

I think the left is experiencing extreme cognitive dissonance. For those of us over sixty, we can recall when everyone declined to either discuss their faith or to bring it into the workplace or politics. Politicians, especially Catholics and Jews, used to have declare that they would not allow their faith to influence their vote. Times have changed. People of faith are speaking up and holding themselves and others to the values they have just mouthed, up til now. The *outrage* over this that we see expressed repeatedly by the left may simply be that they think the old rules still apply and that believers are still too intimidated to continue to speak up.

As to the black churches: again, the left is still assuming that white Christians and Jews will feel guilt from the pre-civil rights era and will never criticize anything done in the name of black Americans. I am not sure yet if they understand that most Orthodox Jews and practicing traditional Roman and Orthodox Catholics and the majority of black Christians agree on basic traditional values.

They have to have seen the analysis showing Jews, Catholics and black Christians voted GOP in much higher percentages than previously. From their actions, they seem to assume that they can still jawbone these issues and shut us all up. They also are continuing to attempt to set us all against each other on the basis of presumed sectarian differences. That isn't working, either.
38 posted on 04/23/2005 12:43:35 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: bitt

""You cannot have bishops in the pulpit -- long before or the Sunday before the election, as they did in Catholic churches -- saying it was a mortal sin to vote for John Kerry," she said. "The church has a right and obligation to teach values. They don't have a right to restrict freedom of expression, which they did."

Does this sincerely limited woman understand that the Dogma was stated from the pulpit and the Church is not the public sphere?


39 posted on 04/23/2005 1:28:52 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Just because you put lipstick on a pig doesn't mean it smells any better.)
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To: Meldrim

Huh, exactly where are the cart and the horse?

Seems to me Kerry's loss was REALLY due to the preference of the MAJORITY of voting Americans - including the majority of Catholics AND their bishops - who just happen share the same 'culture of life' as GWB.


40 posted on 04/23/2005 1:46:59 PM PDT by FRactional
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To: bitt

Looks like the gin-soaked raisens got to her.


41 posted on 04/23/2005 1:50:59 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: OpusatFR
"Does this sincerely limited woman understand that the Dogma was stated......."

I beg to differ.

Does this severely limited woman......

42 posted on 04/23/2005 1:51:41 PM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: Fintan

Alcohol has a way of breaking down inhibitions and loosening the tongue. Thank goodness it does - because otherwise she would not have been exposed for the phoney she is.


43 posted on 04/23/2005 1:59:47 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Bernard
Did somebody - anybody - actually say that it was a mortal sin to vote for John Kerry?

No. A couple of bishops said that he would not be allowed in their dioceses. But Kerry met with McCarrick (archbishop of the DC diocese and "dean" of the American cardinals), who later made a statement that was pretty much gibberish about pastoral something or other and not using Communion as a weapon. (Sorry -- I slept through it ;D)

44 posted on 04/23/2005 2:00:39 PM PDT by maryz
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To: bitt
""You cannot have bishops in the pulpit -- long before or the Sunday before the election..........."

Catholics preaching beliefs of the faith, is forbidden?

BUT--- giving "walking around money" to black "ministers" to instruct their black congregations on how to vote is okay?

The bitch is nuts...
I would love it if MSM would put a camera and mic in front of this loony imbecile every day and broadcast her stupid comments WORLDWIDE..

Semper Fi

45 posted on 04/23/2005 2:09:11 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: bitt
I assume the Post-Intelligencer's Joel Connelly did his best to accurately quote her. No reporter wants to have to ask Heinz to clarify her remarks immediately after she finishes speaking.

We've heard it can be dangerous.

Man, talk about the gift that keeps on giving! If we could only get Teresa to divorce Kerry and marry Hillary (come-out come-out, wherever you are), we'd have the '08 election in the bag. Teresa is the 800 pound boat-anchor.

46 posted on 04/23/2005 2:10:57 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Fintan

Where's the little white coat with the really long sleeves?


47 posted on 04/23/2005 2:12:32 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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the Pittsburgh ketchup heiress -- a practicing Catholic --

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

48 posted on 04/23/2005 2:16:03 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: bitt

"The Pope did it"
Now, how many folks can say that?
Hard to imagine that Jean le Kerré is planning another run for the White House.


49 posted on 04/23/2005 2:19:01 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: bitt
I assume the Post-Intelligencer's Joel Connelly did his best to accurately quote her. No reporter wants to have to ask Heinz to clarify her remarks immediately after she finishes speaking.

Why wouldn't he? He probably agreed with everything Teresa said and figured he was passing on immortal words of absolute wisdom. I never could figure out why these MSM types so worshipped Teresa, and Kerry himself. I know they hated President Bush and felt they had to do anything they could to unseat him, but good grief. Kerry was such a dog of a candidate that you'd think even they would have had to hold their noses.

50 posted on 04/23/2005 2:19:13 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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