Posted on 04/26/2005 6:10:53 PM PDT by Boston Blackie
WASHINGTON The debate over immigration reform is heating up. Advocates for illegal immigrants say they deserve the same chance as the ancestors of most Americans. But Mario Johnson, with National People's Action, says that "instead of the American dream, they're getting the American nightmare."
The advocacy group says U-S immigration policy is so complicated that many people could starve to death before they could immigrate legally.
But Mike Hethmon of the Federation for American Immigration Reform says illegal immigrants can't be tolerated.
Hethmon says the problems that drove them from their countries must be addressed there, not in the U-S.
"...they're getting creating the American nightmare."
*there*...all fixed!
If we continue to let the moonbats control the language, and make illegal legal, leach into immigrant, "Give us your angry, your insane, your massing terrorists...yearning to wreck havoc on our nation."
Show me any law abiding foreigner working hard to earn citizenship and learn the language, I'll show you someone who has my utmost respect, and deserves all the benefits of being an "American".
Otherwise... get the hell out, and stay out.
/generalized flame off.
Yeh, pathetic, the nightmare of free schools, free universities, welfare, free medical, free infantcare. Pathetic indeed. Life can be so hard.
And wait a minute. If it is such a nightmare, and you are illegal anyway, then ... who's forcing you to stay here? Go back to Paradise.
Ping - we need to treat illegal aliens better.
I believe sneaking into Mexico and getting caught without your "tarjeta de México de la inmigración", you'll get 15 years and be banned for life from coming back.
Illegal aliens are getting the "American nightmare" because they're entering the United States illegally. If they would come here legally, then they could persue the "American dream".
The advocacy group says U-S immigration policy is so complicated that many people could starve to death before they could immigrate legally.
Funny, I don't see many Mexican illegal aliens who look like they're starving to death. In fact, many of these illegal aliens pay smugglers thousands of dollars to get them safely over the border. So apparently these illegal aliens have plenty of money to buy food.
I do know that that's what happens if you are caught working without a work permit which is extremely hard to get.
Even to get a commercial aircraft cargo permit took me 2 trips to Mexico City to meet with the Secretary of Transportation.
Most of the usual suspects fronting for Business have been absent.
Lately all there is are the ACLU and this no-name group that has little tradition with immigration.
Maybe the National Immigration Forum is refining their attack - or spending less money on it.
---Arrest, fine, imprison their employers and they will have to return to their country of origin.---
Bingo! We have a winner!
Fernando Ortiz was a ‘landscape engineer’ on Long Island who had demanded to be able to vote, on the basis that he had been paying state and federal taxes for ten years. Actually, he had been stopped from casting a ballot by a poll watcher who had suspected his citizenship status, and (illegally, as it turned out) demanded proof of his identity and legal qualification to vote. Ortiz had won a multi-million dollar settlement against the Republican Party of New York in the subsequent “racial profiling and ethnic intimidation” civil suit, but he did not stop there.
Instead, with massive support from the ACLU and various Hispanic “immigrants rights” foundations, he had pressed his demand to be allowed to vote all the way to the Supreme Court…and he won. The Supreme Court, in its famous 5-4 decision, ruled that negligence in securing America’s borders against illegal immigration on the part of the federal government, could not be held against “undocumented workers who played by the rules and paid their taxes,” once they were established in America—legally or not. The federal government had not taken reasonable efforts to secure the border, and had not pursued "undocumented workers" in the USA. Instead, it openly permitted them most of the benefits of citizenship, and it collected their taxes. "No taxation without representation!" was the cry heard all the way to the Supreme Court. The State of New York had then sleep-walked through an aimless and desultory case for denying the vote—and citizenship—to “undocumented workers.”
Following Ortiz v. New York, a stunned America woke up to discover that there were not only an amazing twenty-two million illegal aliens hiding in plain sight across the land, but that eight million of them immediately qualified to vote. In a nation split 50-50 down party and ideological lines, these eight million new voters were recognized to be the certain majority-makers in future elections, and both parties set record lows for cravenness in pandering to their “needs.” Chief among their “needs” were liberal new family reunification laws, and these instant citizens—illegal aliens only a year before—began bringing the remainders of their families to the USA. Legally.
Overnight, wavering Democrat states became locks, and swing states with large Hispanic populations went solidly “blue.” The result was the recent election which had brought Gobernador Deleon to power in Nuevo Mexico, and had also brought radical Democrats to power in the White House and both houses of congress.
Thus had come the political tsunami which swept all before it, a tidal wave triggered by an undocumented lawn maintenance worker named Fernando Ortiz.
Ping - we need to treat illegal aliens better.
Better? I don't see how we could treat them any better than we do now...unless we were to ship them all home with instructions on how to turn their own countries into economic engines rivalling the US...
Agreed
Please? May we?
Thank god we don't treat Mexicans like they do people coming from their southern border.
I hear they often shoot them down south. Where's the liberal la raza outcry concerning that?
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