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Posted on 05/04/2005 4:41:32 AM PDT by freepatriot32
Time has run out to stop conceal carry permits from coming to Saint Louis City and Saint Louis County. The excuse that there is no funding to cover the costs is no longer valid.
Tuesday, Missouri senators gave final approval to a bill that passed in the house in March. Now a spokesman for Governor Matt Blunt says it's not a matter of if he will sign this new bill, but when. It will becomes law immediately.
The conceal-carry law has resulted in a barrage of opinions from gun owners and those against guns getting in more hands. Despite his opposition, St. Louis City Sheriff James Murphy now has no choice but to allow city residents to apply for a concealed weapons permit. Murphy says he has never been in favor of the legislation but will not try to stop it.
Missouri's new conceal-carry law fixes what was missing in the original version of the bill. The new language allows sheriffs to use a one hundred dollar permit fee to cover all costs relating to the conceal carry law. Sheriff Murphy says his goal is to begin allowing residents to get permits around thirty days after the legislation is approved by the governor.
Gun supporters say conceal carry critics were afraid without reason all along. They say no local or national communities have ever seen a rise in crime as a result of conceal carry laws. Gun store owner Joe Dix says law abiding citizens in Missouri will finally be able to protect themselves from criminals.
By February of 2004, every local municipality except St. Louis City and County began issuing permits. On Tuesday, St. Louis County officials declined to go on camera. They say they need time to review the legislation before making a comment. They say the county council will eventually act accordingly.
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I still don't get why anybody would need a permit for this (knowing St. Louis politics, though, I can guess). Maybe I just spend too much time close to the northern edge of the Central West End, but there could be any number of weapons concealed in any number of places.
No kidding! That's amazing! I never thought it would happen - seriously. They've been able to elude this for so long I figured it was dead.
Hey Jinxie and TC - look what St. Louis do!!
And 50 percent of those permits should not be granted, and they should be forced to vote conservative.
Dang, $100? Here in New Hampshire it's $10 for four years.
I was just about to say the exact same thing.
So, I see the St. Louis anti-gun nazis still intend to drag this out as long as they possibly can. How can public officials get away with refusing to obey the law for over a year, and then when there is no more lame, contrived excuse whatsoever for not obeying it they still have to "study" the law some more before they will obey? Everyone in the city and county governments of St. Louis should be jailed for refusing to obey a law that was duly enacted by the elected representatives of the people of MO. Who do those clowns think they are anyway?
Actually I know who they are, liberal fascist pigs. When my son lived there a few years ago I accompanied him to the sheriff's office to get a permit just to merely possess a pistol I wanted to give him. As soon as he asked where to go to apply for the permit the hostility became so thick you could cut it with a knife. It was blatantly obvious that the sheriff's hirelings hated the very thought of anyone except themselves having a gun of any kind, much less an eeeviil handgun. He finally got the application and eventually got the permit, but even then we both had to go to a local gun shop and have the transfer documented and recorded. Overall, it was a very unpleasant and maddening experience.
It is a crime in itself that law abiding citizens of the USA have to grovel before their imperial overlords just to exercise a right supposedly guaranteed by the Constitution. Our forefathers tarred and feathered king George's hirelings for much less grievous offenses than we meekly tolerate every day without so much as a word of protest.
Very nice. I lived in St. Louis County (Creve Coeur) for 3 years while training at Barnes/Jewish Hospital. I witnessed so many muggings of interns/residents at City Hospital - St. Louis and there was a drug related shooting on the ward of that hospital one night while I was on duty. I did the smart thing and hid!
Couldn't get a surgeon to see the wounded guy on the ward so I cut off his arm band, loaded him in a gurney and pushed him down to the ER.
By the time the paperwork got sorted out the patient had been properly treated.
I always wanted to be able to carry when I lived in St. Louis. Now that I live in Idaho and can (and do) I don't feel as much need. It must be the Heinlein, "An armed society is a polite society."
Wow, will wonders never cease!
10 years ago, Florida was one of the first to pass 'shall-issue' concealed carry permits. Opponents predicted that the streets would be running with blood in short order.
It hasn't happened.
St. Louis will now get to benefit from the truism that an armed society is a polite society.
When I was in college I had to write a position paper and I chose gun control (anti) as my topic. It was very interesting research. I used stats from FL in that paper.
They need to be careful. If they drag it out much longer the legislature is liable to repeal all CC laws and go to a straight "Vermont" model. There's already some pressure for that as it is.
I didn't know that was a Heinlein quote! Do you know which book it's from?
http://www.fortliberty.org/quotes/quotes-firearms.shtml
An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. -- Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon, 1942
Thanks!
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