Posted on 05/05/2005 12:57:26 PM PDT by Destro
I don't give a rats' a$$ if I have to provide four pieces of ID when I renew my license. I already have to show my old license, and provide my SS#.
Now I'll have to "prove" that I'm a citizen, by also providing my birth certificate and one (or two) other documents. Fine.
What I object to is this information being copied and scanned, and retained for 7-10 ten years.
I object to my private information be "shared" among the 50 states.
And as I've about fifteen times already, this bill doesn't do one damn thing about the illegals who try to get a license.
This legislation is literally nothing more than a way to turn a drivers licenses into a national ID.
You may blindly trust the government, but I do not.
Perhaps you've seen the recent news reports of DMV employees in Marlyland, Michigan and Florida selling drivers licenses to illegals? (Florida DMV Workers Allegedly Helped Illegals Get Licenses)
Now people like this will have photo-copies and/or scans of all private information supplied, right at their fingertips.
This legislation is an ID thieves' wet dream.
The federal government is way too big and intrusive for my tastes, you would never get a disagreement out of me there.
I was born! Really I was!
I’ve never had need of the birth certificate before. I’ve thought of getting a copy just for the heck of it, but never got around to doing it. I may even get a passport now – just in case I decide to visit the British Isles.
You certainly have a point.
Panama's population is less than 3,000,000 compared to the U.S. That is to say, it is easier to catch criminals here than in a more populated country of nearly 300,000,000. (The 300,000,000 does not include illegals. Thank you George Bush.)
At this point, I have no idea if my original birth certificate has also been lost under the care of the State Department. The acid test will come if I have to have a certified copy for a national U.S. ID. Thus far, renewing passports, etc., has not required showing a certified birth certificate once I showed it for the first time years ago.
By 2008? Thats 3 years from now. There will be 10 million more illegal aliens in this country by then. I'll bet if congress was voting themselves another raise, it wouldnt take 3 damn years.
But then again, if shove comes to push, the passport section of the U.S. Embassy would have a copy of my certified birth certificate as proof should it be lost from the birth certificate archives.
The Interstate Commerce Clause strikes again at our liberties.
If push comes to shove? I've been living in Panama too long.
I object to my private information be "shared" among the 50 states.
And again I'm not necessarily in favor of all these privacy infringements either, my only point was most of this is already going in many states and now the federal government is making them all do it as a way of supposedly keeping illegals and visa overstayers from having licenses.
You may blindly trust the government, but I do not.
No I do not blindly trust the government. While I don't currently see this as a national id in the way you might should any attempt ever be made to force one on us I'll be opposed to that idea as much as anyone.
And as I've about fifteen times already, this bill doesn't do one damn thing about the illegals who try to get a license.
You're right, they can still get a certificate to drive but that is a dead giveaway the holder is an illegal alien. If one is stupid enough to sign up for that it's their problem.
"Social change through managed crisis "
The I.D. carrier then goes outside. When the I.D. carriers name is called out, the illegal steps up and has his picture taken instead and gets the I.D. carriers new I.D., only with the illegals picture on it.
Voila! Instant citizenship!
The cloned I.D. then reproduces itself over and over again. The person taking the picture is not the same one taking in the replacement I.D. request because union rules don't allow intake clerks to do photography. With no fingerprint requirement, all similar appearing people can do this.
Here's the really fun part. The original I.D. carrier also sells his SS#. All the clones use his # for employment and our government takes in with-holding taxes on that same SS# from several businesses at the same time and haven't figured out that someone can't work more hours than there are in a quarter.
Any attempts to tighten up the I.D. system will always fail without fingerprint verification for every use of the card. The only answer is to get Mexico to provide a safe and prosperous home for its people.
Congress set to impose ID card rules
Republicans from both chambers reached a compromise that leaves most of the bill intact. Among the notable changes, the House backed away from its demand that every state submit its driver information into a single national database that would be shared with Mexico and Canada.
They wanted to "share" our private information with Canada and MEXICO? Canada's socialist, and the Mexican government is rife with corruption.
What the hell were they thinking?
That was not a good idea at all. I'm glad they backed away from that.
How much easier it would be for everyone if Mexico would make the needed reforms to stimulate private enterprise and create decent jobs there.
I also have an American Legion I.D. and an insurance card from my wife's group health policy; on top of that, I carry a picture of half the past presidents in my back pocket most of the time, too bad most of those represent the oldest of the lot.
If I die enroute to my destination, I hope somebody is kind enough to mind his own business until I'm am safely tucked away from earshot of that guy who keeps calling wanting me to refinance my house.
It's little things like that which have caused me to become a paranoid cynic.
I don't believe anything anyone says, and they're all out to get me anyway. ;)
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