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History reduced to hogwash
The Telegraph ^ | 6 May 2005

Posted on 05/06/2005 3:33:56 AM PDT by Racehorse

Trust this director to turn the Crusades, a subject fit to overflow with muck and mania, zeal and bloodlust, into a delectably pretty 12th-century castle tour. Kingdom of Heaven is stultifying . . .

If you thought the Crusades were really about Christians and Muslims being nice to one another, this is the film for you. It's set during a talky respite between the Second and Third Crusades, with Jerusalem in the hands of the Christian "leper king" Baldwin IV . . .

The Saracens, led by wily old Saladin (Ghassan Massoud), are biding their time before the next recovery campaign, while our main character, the blacksmith Balian . . . is that rare Crusader who has no particular religious beef and generally prefers to stay out of trouble. . . . you couldn't accuse it of being anti-Islam, anti-Christian, pro either, or ultimately pro anything. It's a paragon of vapid fairness.

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. . . Kingdom of Heaven, . . . comes very close to blaming just two power-hungry Knights Templar . . . for generations of religious warfare . . .

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. . . These historical epics can preach a vague anti-war message until they're blue in the face, but their bellicose showmanship and swooping adoration of combat tell a different story.

And while Scott's latest boasts the requisite money shots, fireballs bombarding Jerusalem as the Saracen siege towers totter and tumble, it looks edited in a hurry - key sequences never find their rhythm, and the pacing is sluggish and uncertain. The longer cut that Scott intends to release on DVD may iron out some of these problems. But only an enormous injection of added purpose could bring this comatose epic back to life.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: christianity; criticism; crusades; entertainment; film; islam; kingdomofheaven; moviereview; movies; revisionisthistory
I'll still buy a ticket. Plan to see it next week some time.
1 posted on 05/06/2005 3:33:56 AM PDT by Racehorse
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To: Racehorse

"It's a paragon of vapid fairness."

LOL!! Thats a funny line.

I'm going to skip this one.


2 posted on 05/06/2005 3:43:06 AM PDT by kb2614 ("Speaking Truth to Power" - What idiots say when they want to sound profound!!)
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To: Racehorse

Yeah why not. Buy a ticket and support their crap.


3 posted on 05/06/2005 4:09:42 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: sgtbono2002

Support whose crap?


4 posted on 05/06/2005 4:17:36 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Racehorse

Yes, it appears to be another PC revision of history. On O'Reilly last night the director was on and from what I gathered, he's made Saracen, the Muslim marauder who slaughtered millions of Christians, into the hero of the movie. I'm sure the Islamists will love it and will rededicate their efforts to have Jerusalem as their capital.


5 posted on 05/06/2005 4:22:45 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Racehorse
Hollywood tries to make epics while giving no credence to the forces creating these stories.

They feel an irresistable urge to write things the way they wish they were in the mistaken belief that their fiction is more compelling than the truth. When you have the slightest inkling of the truth, the fiction is just plain tasteless. It would be like choosing an evening with a cardboard cutout of Ann Coulter instead of the real thing.

In the end, contemporary Hollywood epics fall flat because they are just a bit of eye candy pasted onto Hollywood's standard philosophical fare that is behind everything else they do.

6 posted on 05/06/2005 4:26:26 AM PDT by hopespringseternal (</i>)
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To: kittymyrib
Saracen, the Muslim marauder.....

You of course meant Saladin, the Muslim marauder........who, just to make things more interesting, was in real life apparently a Kurd. The Kurdish peoples were much stronger before the Turks conquered the whole region.

7 posted on 05/06/2005 4:37:34 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: Racehorse

It will be on the shelf in about 3 months, why give money away support crap?
I'd pay to see an accurate film on Mohammad though, show him for what he really was, which would make Ghingis Khan look like an alter boy.


8 posted on 05/06/2005 4:43:09 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Racehorse

Support the crap this Director and others in Hollywood are putting out. When you buy a ticket you are supporting these people. Thats should be pretty easy for anyone to figure out.


9 posted on 05/06/2005 4:47:55 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Racehorse
From the Iberian peninsula to the Indian subcontinent, campaigns waged by Muslim armies against infidel Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians, Buddhists and Hindus, were punctuated by massacres, including mass throat slittings and beheadings.

During the period of “enlightened” Muslim rule, the Christians of Iberian Toledo, who had first submitted to their Arab Muslim invaders in 711 or 712, revolted in 713. In the harsh Muslim reprisal that ensued, Toledo was pillaged, and all the Christian notables had their throats cut.

Those who were brought in alive [having surrendered] were beheaded, after which a tower of skulls was erected in the camp.

Islam is truly a "religion" of peace and is constantly "reaching out" in the true spirit of ecumenism.

10 posted on 05/06/2005 4:53:48 AM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal Today)
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To: sgtbono2002

This is where we agree. The director wants the hype and discord because that will induce more and more people to PAY for a seat, if only out of curiosity. Unfortunately, when the director sits in his multi million dollar mansion and laughs at all the fools who parted with their hard earned money, he has it both ways. Beat us up AND took our lunch money! Not mine!!! Those people who will bash my values, my morals, people who will unashamedly bash the Catholic Church (THE oldest institution made by man, held by man and known to man on earth)I say, when these money grubbing autodidacts cash in on their own hatred and stupidity, they only do it with the support of consumers who are not astute enough to BOYCOTT this propaganda (because that is what it IS). Remember, the dollar is the loudest voice in their world. Heck, I'm not even Catholic and I am angry about this!


11 posted on 05/06/2005 4:56:55 AM PDT by SMARTY
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. . . Kingdom of Heaven, . . . comes very close to blaming just two power-hungry Knights Templar . . . for generations of religious warfare . . .

Hey – it’s Hollywood. I gave up long ago on expecting much truth in their historical dramas.
As for the reasons people Took Up the Cross, some were genuinely moved by religious fervor, some just for adventure, some for loot, and some as penance for their life of sin. As Europe was a warrior culture at the time, I imaging many went just because it would be a good fight.
12 posted on 05/06/2005 5:03:40 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: sgtbono2002
Support the crap this Director and others in Hollywood are putting out. When you buy a ticket you are supporting these people. Thats should be pretty easy for anyone to figure out.

This is the same guy who did Blackhawk Down, which I thought was a darn good movie.  This film may not have the same tight and fast action as Blackhawk, but it still looks to provide good entertainment, especially on the really really big screen where I plan to see it.

What is hard to figure out are those who bash the film without having seen it.  Now that's crap.

Should posters who have seen the movie start bashing it, I might reconsider buying a ticket.

13 posted on 05/06/2005 5:08:21 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Racehorse

History reduced to hogwash

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Perfect headline !!!

And don'tcha just know it's gotta be loved by every pig worshiping Muzzle-em !!! ;-))

14 posted on 05/06/2005 5:35:13 AM PDT by GeekDejure ("That may be too late!" -- Laura)
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