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Habemus Pianist: The Pope on Music
New York Times ^ | May 1, 2005 | DANIEL J. WAKIN

Posted on 05/06/2005 4:50:01 PM PDT by ELS

Pope Benedict XVI is a pianist with a penchant for Mozart, which he is said to find more manageable than Brahms, given the limited amount of time he has to practice. (Until his election, he was one of the busiest cardinals in his role as chief interpreter and enforcer of doctrine.) His brother, a priest, was a church Kapellmeister. The Ratzinger boys were born in the part of Bavaria long under the influence of Salzburg, Mozart's birthplace.

As a theologian, he has occasionally revealed some of his thinking about music. When it comes to popular forms, he can be harsh. In his 2001 book "Introduction to the Spirit of the Liturgy," he called rock 'n' roll "an expression of base passions which, in large musical gatherings, has assumed cultlike characteristics or even becomes a counter-cult that is opposed to the Christian" worship. Pop music was a "cult of banality."

On the classical side, he played music critic in a message to Pope John Paul II on the 25th anniversary of John Paul's pontificate in 2003, when a concert in his honor by the Mitteldeutscher Rundfunkorchester included Beethoven's Ninth Symphony. Addressing the 83-year-old pope, Cardinal Ratzinger described the symphony as echoing "the inner strife of the great maestro in the midst of the darkness of life, his passage, as it were, through dark nights in which none of the promised stars seemed any longer to shine in the heavens." But in the end, he said, "the clouds lift. The great drama of human existence that unfolds in the music is transformed into a hymn of joy."

Then he took a knock at Schiller, the poet of the "Ode to Joy," saying that his "true greatness blossomed" thanks only to Beethoven's music. Unlike Bach's "Christmas Oratorio" or the Passions, which contain "the intact presence of the faith," Schiller's ode is characterized by the era's humanism, "which places man at the center," he said with some disapproval. But Beethoven was a believer, he said, so the "good Father" of the ode is not just a supposition but an "ultimate certainty." After all, he pointed out, Beethoven composed the "Missa Solemnis."

Bach lovers will also be pleased by the new pope's taste. In the message, he called Bach "perhaps the greatest musical genius of all time." And in fact, as he was driven around St. Peter's Square after his installation last weekend, loudspeakers played Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor for organ. When he received dignitaries later in St. Peter's Basilica, the Hallelujah chorus filled the air. It was not known whether he had made the program choices.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: benedictxvi; mozart; music; piano; pope; popebenedictxvi; rock; rockandroll; rocknroll
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To: TEXOKIE

Indeed. That would really be something. Thanks for the ping!


21 posted on 05/06/2005 8:47:54 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: joanie-f

Joanie, see especially response #11.


22 posted on 05/06/2005 8:48:20 PM PDT by downwithsocialism
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To: ELS

LOL!


23 posted on 05/06/2005 9:08:21 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Father in Heaven, take command of America and her Mission, her leaders, her people, and her troops!)
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To: DLfromthedesert

You said a mouthful there, DL!


24 posted on 05/06/2005 9:09:04 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Father in Heaven, take command of America and her Mission, her leaders, her people, and her troops!)
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To: Alamo-Girl

:-D


25 posted on 05/06/2005 9:09:27 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Father in Heaven, take command of America and her Mission, her leaders, her people, and her troops!)
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To: BlackElk

Ping.

Repent and be saved!


26 posted on 05/07/2005 4:56:24 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: muir_redwoods

Right. The "human" principle.

Ignoring all of Western (and Hebrew) philosophy on the subject of art does not make you credible.


27 posted on 05/07/2005 4:58:06 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: DLfromthedesert; Agrarian; Kolokotronis

...the 4th movement of Mahler's 2nd--the In Paradisum of Faure's Requiem...the entire Durufle Requiem...the Sanctus from Mozart's Coronation Mass...the Gloria of Beethoven's Missa Solemnis...and every single note of each JSB Passion...

Not to mention all Gregorian Chant propers.


28 posted on 05/07/2005 5:00:30 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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It was not known whether he had made the program choices.

Uh huh. He has strong opinions on music, is the Supreme Pontiff and doesn't have any input on the music for his installation ceremonies. Yeah, right.

29 posted on 05/07/2005 5:50:34 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: ELS

Of course, the Pope is correct in his assessment of rock-n-roll. It is the result of, and cause of, mental disorder.


30 posted on 05/07/2005 8:09:05 AM PDT by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen

Yup; has to do with syncopated rhythms having a deleterious effect on the brain.


31 posted on 05/07/2005 8:34:50 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...you da man!!)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Actually, it's the backbeat having a deleterious effect beneath the bellybutton.


32 posted on 05/07/2005 8:43:34 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot

Solar plexus disharmony?


33 posted on 05/07/2005 8:54:22 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...you da man!!)
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To: DLfromthedesert

No.

Rock is like the Little Blue Pill of Sen. Dole fame--but it works the same way on both sexes.

That's BEFORE any "lyrics" enter the picture.


34 posted on 05/07/2005 9:02:00 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Campion

" Harrumph. All true Germans love Wagner."

And even some Greek/Irishmen!

"For that comment, you get to spend a few thousand years sleeping on a rock, surrounded by magical fire, until a beautiful blonde woman in a suit of armor awakens you with a kiss"

When I was a kid my Dad always listened to the Metropolitan Opera on the radio on Saturday afternoons; I still do occasionally. I remember those parts of the "season" when the Met did the whole Ring Cycle. I developed a great love for Wagner by the time I was 9 or 10, much to the horror of the Greek side of the family who manitained that nothing good ever came from the "Huns"!


35 posted on 05/07/2005 10:32:03 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: ninenot

I'll second that, in spades!

"(Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)"

Is there an Eastern Orthodox chapter of the club and is that where we were going to have that dinner with the B&B?


36 posted on 05/07/2005 10:33:46 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: ninenot
"Ignoring all of Western (and Hebrew) philosophy on the subject of art does not make you credible."

Not have the least idea what you are talking about undermines your credibilty a bit as well. A good deal of western philosophy on art is in quite good agreement with my position. It merely has the advanage of not being 2500 years old.

37 posted on 05/07/2005 12:59:26 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: muir_redwoods

If you intend to represent that rock'n'roll is "art," you have a hell of a long proof to write, sonny.


38 posted on 05/07/2005 2:17:44 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Kolokotronis; ArrogantBustard; BlackElk; CAtholic Family Association; GirlShortstop; Desdemona; ...
Is there an Eastern Orthodox chapter of the club

The TTGC knows no bounds--our interest is in maintaining orthodoxy (Roman or Eastern, whatever.)

The TTGC, as a club, approaches ideal. There are no meetings; there are no formal, written agendas. There are no dues. There is only one requirement: the willingness to assist at TTGC gatherings (should there ever be one) for the purpose of conducting an auto-da-fe.

We already have a Grand Inquisitor, a Chief Equipment Engineer (and a good deal of equipment, modernized and refurbished) not to mention several full cords of wood.

TTGC also has the pleasure of having a dedicated Ladies' Auxiliary (they must wear hats); and the gentle Ladies will provide cucumber sandwiches, navigation, and Chace-related goods/services.

If you wish to start an (Eastern) Orthodox section, feel free.

Remember, though, that the TTGC, at some point in time, will begin formally petitioning Rome to elevate Tomas deTorquemada to the altar. We expect that ALL members in any Branch will not only concur with the thought, but actively support such elevation.

39 posted on 05/07/2005 2:25:38 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot
No good auto da fe can be run without a Prosecutor General, to assist the Grand Inquisitor you know, who of course must be an attorney. If the heretic is a Roman I'll question him in Greek, if Orthodox in Latin.... That should solve the nasty possibility of the wrong verdict!

I'll start signing up Orthodoxers tomorrow. We have a convert from those dreaded heretics in ECUSA who actually, personally, ran an auto da fe of his own "bishopess". He and his lady wife left for Orthodoxy soon thereafter. It seemed the politic thing to do. I tried to explain to him that he forgot to arrange for the last, most satisfying part of the whole process, but, having been a Prot at the time of the auto da fe, he was not well versed in the culminating high point of the proceeding.

BTW, I like the part about the hats! As for TT's elevation, fine with me; a word from the East might be of some small assistance.
40 posted on 05/07/2005 2:46:24 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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