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Benedict XVI swamps Jesuit mag's boat (Reese out as editor of America)
Drudge/Associated Press ^ | May 6, 2005 | NIcole Winfield

Posted on 05/06/2005 5:21:38 PM PDT by Dionysiusdecordealcis

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To: AlbionGirl
You would think they wouldn't want to destroy such a well-earned reputation

The history of the order is remarkable, all right.

One of the distinctive features of all the major Christian heresies is the obsessive character of their doctrines. A single (false) doctrine becomes the center of the heretics intellectual and emotional universe, and grows and grows until it crowds out all the rest.

In fact, that's a reasonable test of a heresy-if it has that effect on its believers, it's heresy.

I think that homosexualism-feminism is in fact a Christian heresy. as large and important as Arianism or Donatism. It denies the created order, it captures its followers in an intellectual and emotional blind alley, and it makes them very, very resistant to change.

This heresy, like all the other biggies (and, I would argue, unlike Protestantism), has captured a large fragment of the Church (including the Society of Jesus) and is growing.

If we believe that the Gates of Hell will not prevail (and I do), then we must believe that sharp action is coming.

The eradication of all the other major heresies was very costly, and this will be no different.

21 posted on 05/07/2005 6:07:58 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: little jeremiah

I prefer to think of him sitting in the papal apartments quietly knotting together a whip from cords with which he will emulate his Master by going to cleanse the temple. This was my hope when he was elected, and my hope has been strengthened by this and the story about Spain (homo-marriage).


22 posted on 05/07/2005 6:30:22 AM PDT by johnb838 (Free Republicans... To Arms!)
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To: Jim Noble

Apparently he has talked about a smaller purer Catholic church, which means letting go of institutions that are not fully catholic. This means hospitals, schools, and who knows, religious orders? Could a group like the Jesuits be reduced to a status similar to the Knights of Columbus?


23 posted on 05/07/2005 6:33:42 AM PDT by johnb838 (Free Republicans... To Arms!)
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To: Jim Noble

Very well said.

One thing I've never quite been clear on is what 'gates of hell' really mean. I guess I've always interpreted it as meaning that no matter what happens, a small, but faithful remnant will remain.

That satan doesn't have the power to totally destroy the Church, but that some unspeakable evil could permeate the Church, nonetheless.


24 posted on 05/07/2005 6:48:23 AM PDT by AlbionGirl
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To: Lindykim

Could you re-ping me to your article that had the words "Gay Myth" in it? I wanted to ping it out, but the last several days have been very hectic, and it got lost... I've had way over 100 or more comments to and from in the last day, and the darn page only holds 20.

I could search but I'm so lazy I'm asking you..


25 posted on 05/07/2005 6:48:41 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: johnb838

I think many people around the world must be happy and thankful. I certainly am.


26 posted on 05/07/2005 6:49:37 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis

I hope this is a sign of long overdue housecleaning; a strange place to start but then all of us in Catholic cyberspace really don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

Another theory: If his term was really up June 1, then why would the Vatican bump him now? Another possibility is that he resigns a month early voluntarily and allows off the record rumors to start that the Vatican forced him out. This would feed negative perceptions of the new pope in the media.

After thinking about it, I am not sure it's not a ruse by the Jesuits.


27 posted on 05/07/2005 7:44:11 AM PDT by Piers-the-Ploughman
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To: Pittsburg Phil
America is a joke. So is Commonweal.

I'd rather be reading The New Oxford Review.
28 posted on 05/07/2005 7:50:55 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis

**Rev. Thomas J. Reese, a widely respected expert on the Catholic Church**

Respected by whom?

Obviously not the Vatican nor the conservative Catholic FReepers here.

The CINOs like Kerry, Daschle, Pelosi and Kennedy, maybe?


29 posted on 05/07/2005 8:50:54 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis

>>When contacted Friday, Reese said only that his tenure ends on June 1 and that he would move immediately to California and continue in his Jesuit ministry. He referred other comment to his news release.<<

California is going to be left holding the bag.


30 posted on 05/07/2005 9:01:23 AM PDT by donbosco74
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis
The Rev. Thomas J. Reese, a widely respected expert on the Catholic Church and the Vatican...

Widely respected? By whom, besides CINOS and liberals?

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

31 posted on 05/07/2005 9:07:14 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI: Continuing as pope to put the smackdown on heresy since 1981.)
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To: little jeremiah
Note: I don't mean to be disrespectful to Pope Benedict in comparing him to a broom.

You are NOT being disrespectful. As a Catholic, I'd like to think of him as being The Terminator. :-)

32 posted on 05/07/2005 9:09:22 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI: Continuing as pope to put the smackdown on heresy since 1981.)
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To: Jim Noble

There's really not much point to suppressing the Jesuits. They're a dying order.


33 posted on 05/07/2005 9:31:22 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis

Excellent news! I heard about this on NPR while driving home this afternoon. There are LOTS of these signs that Pope Benedict is taking a hands-on approach to reining in the heretics that have run things for so long.

America has been one of the world's premiere organs of liberal dissent, and has had a disproportionate influence on widespread public opinion because it is constantly being quoted as a "respected" Catholic source by the MSM. I don't know how many times NPR or the New York Times have quoted them as an authoritative source.


34 posted on 05/07/2005 6:43:02 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: JoeFromSidney
I can't say I am an expert on the Jesuits. But speaking as a Protestant, I like the fact that Reese defended Protestantism from Ratzinger's claim that Protestant's practice a morally impaired form of Christianity. Obviously the pope did not care for this, which is why Reese is out of a job.
35 posted on 05/08/2005 5:23:05 PM PDT by Teplukin
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To: JoeFromSidney

I'm Anglican, but even I was shaking my head in disbelief at Father Reese during the funeral of JPII and the election of Benedict XVII.


36 posted on 05/08/2005 5:29:12 PM PDT by kalee
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To: kalee

Benedict XVII should be Benedict XVI. Sorry.


37 posted on 05/08/2005 5:33:18 PM PDT by kalee
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To: kalee

>>I'm Anglican, but even I was shaking my head in disbelief at Father Reese during the funeral of JPII and the election of Benedict XVII.<<

What did he do?


38 posted on 05/08/2005 5:51:16 PM PDT by paul_fromatlanta
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To: paul_fromatlanta

If I remember correctly I saw him on C-Span and MSNBC. He wanted a 21st century pope, who would moderate the Church's stand on abortion, homosexuality and birth control. I remember shaking my head in amazement and then I looked on Yahoo to see what I could find about him and his magazine. My feeling after the Yahoo search were that he was a CINO and as I said that was the opinion of an Anglican.


39 posted on 05/08/2005 5:59:24 PM PDT by kalee
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To: kalee

>>If I remember correctly I saw him on C-Span and MSNBC. He wanted a 21st century pope, who would moderate the Church's stand on abortion, homosexuality and birth control. I remember shaking my head in amazement and then I looked on Yahoo to see what I could find about him and his magazine. My feeling after the Yahoo search were that he was a CINO and as I said that was the opinion of an Anglican.<<

Well since they didn't get a pope at all like that, he shouldn't be surprised to get forced out.


40 posted on 05/08/2005 6:18:42 PM PDT by paul_fromatlanta
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