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Parents taking issue with forfeits when boys don't join girls on mat
The Seattle Times ^ | May 8, 2005 | Linda Shaw

Posted on 05/09/2005 12:33:59 AM PDT by beaversmom

Edited on 05/09/2005 12:42:57 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Girls who wrestled for several Puget Sound-area middle schools this year easily won their matches against boys from two private schools.

The girls stepped onto the mat. Their opponents from Tacoma Baptist and Cascade Christian stayed in their seats. The referee then raised the girls' hands to signal they'd won by forfeit.


(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: girlswrestling; intergenderwrestling; intersexwrestling; sports; wrestling
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1 posted on 05/09/2005 12:34:00 AM PDT by beaversmom
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Connors, however, believes the forfeit rule shouldn't be used to discriminate against girls, including his daughter, one of a half-dozen girls on teams in the league, drawn from schools in King, Pierce and Mason counties.

Father: "Boy, you will put your sweaty palms all over my daughter's body or I'm going to take you to court."

Oh, the irony...

2 posted on 05/09/2005 12:37:05 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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I liked this line:

"My daughter's rights," he said, "are not going to be bargained away for any reason."

3 posted on 05/09/2005 12:38:45 AM PDT by beaversmom
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Before long, dating only people of the one sex will be seen as discriminatory against those of the other sex, and heterosexuality and homosexuality will be illegal, in favor of bisexualism, which is more politically correct...


4 posted on 05/09/2005 12:39:44 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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'Connors, a former Episcopal president and one-time pastoral assistant for social justice at St. James Cathedral in Seattle'

Heh.


5 posted on 05/09/2005 12:43:24 AM PDT by Bogey78O (*tagline removed per request*)
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...Connors, a former Episcopal president...

There's that nasty word again. It's getting to the point that I almost prefer to hear Islamic instead of Episcopalian. Almost.
6 posted on 05/09/2005 12:43:30 AM PDT by Old_Mil
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...Hmm, as I think about this more, I wonder if we can get some sort of negotiation going with the Iranians. We give them the right to wage a jihad against the Episcopalians and wipe them out, and we get a discount on oil...

...we'd have to do it quickly, though, before word gets out that Episcopalians aren't Christians anymore.


7 posted on 05/09/2005 12:45:31 AM PDT by Old_Mil
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I just bet that those who favor this boys and girls wrestling each other will be consistent.

I am sure they will be consistent enough to mix all sports now. In college wrestling, girls must compete against boys. In the olympics same thing.

In basketball, men will now be allowed to break down the walls of discrimination and join the WNBA.

Tennis, goodbye Williams sisters, you can't compete with the fringe men players.

Yes, I will just bet they will be consistent. Nah, its just a one way political street filled with hypocrisy.

8 posted on 05/09/2005 12:45:46 AM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man.)
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Connors, a former Episcopal president and one-time pastoral assistant for social justice at St. James Cathedral in Seattle

I'm shocked...SHOCKED...I tell you. Yet another idiot like the Pledge of Allegiance guy...using his children for political purposes.

Only, this one is so pathetic he actually encouraged his daughter to wrestle. I come from a background where wrestling is a major sport; I was very good friends with many wrestlers. Any father who not only encourages his daughter to do it...but also expects her to wrestle with these GUYS is one sick puppy.

Let me just say...there are some really disgusting health issues...I'll leave it at that.

9 posted on 05/09/2005 12:48:15 AM PDT by garandgal
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To: beaversmom

It's wrong that boys are being forced to wrestle with girls.

Ironically, this is the kind of crap that helps advance misogyny, IMNSHO.


10 posted on 05/09/2005 12:48:35 AM PDT by k2blader (Immorality bites.)
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I just want to cry reading crap like this


11 posted on 05/09/2005 12:51:33 AM PDT by Crazieman (If Con is the opposite of Pro, what is the opposite of Progress?)
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"Oh, the irony. . ."

Indeed. . . and incredible. . .and inescapable:

[As a seventh-grader, (Shiosaki) wasn't McMurray's best wrestler in her weight class, so she wasn't on the varsity squad. . .Still, she came home upset when Shiosaki got forfeits. She told her father she felt degraded, like an "object of lust.]

Tennis anyone?

I am just SOL. . .sick of Liberals.

12 posted on 05/09/2005 12:52:45 AM PDT by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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These are my favorite lines of the story:

"If my religion says that once a year on a full moon, I had to get into a hit-and-run accident, I think the cops would take exception to that," he said. "That's an extreme example, but if you come into the public domain, you can't develop a policy that discriminates against people."

"What if, for religious reasons, people said they were not going to wrestle African Americans, or wrestle people of different religions?" she asked. "When you put it in those terms, you can see how the person who is not able to compete is being harmed."
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How about the boys that lose to the girls, can you imagine what happens to them. I wrestled in high school and there is no way that i would have wrestled a girl for that very reason.

When are boys going to be allowed on the softball teams? (maybe they already are, its been awhile since i have been to school LOL)


13 posted on 05/09/2005 12:55:26 AM PDT by Bostton1 (Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns have!)
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14 posted on 05/09/2005 12:59:53 AM PDT by ambrose ("They killed the Giggler, man. THEY KILLED THE GIGGLER!")
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"but if you come into the public domain, you can't develop a policy that discriminates against people."
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i think he forgot to add "but if you come into the public domain, you can't develop a policy that discriminates against people UNLESS THE ARE RELIGOUS"


15 posted on 05/09/2005 1:03:09 AM PDT by Bostton1 (Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns have!)
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To: ambrose

Oh, man, that'll drive some FReepers nuts. *LOL*


16 posted on 05/09/2005 1:03:53 AM PDT by k2blader (Immorality bites.)
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To: beaversmom
When I was in high school, a girl decided she wanted to play football. She was maybe 5'-5" 120 lbs. Practice for the season had just started and we were still in gym clothes. Coach called out for myself and three other guys. The four of us were 6'3" - 6'5" and averaged about 250 lbs. Coach stood with this girl beside him and asked us "Do you like to hit?". We said yes sir. Coach and the girl walked away. We never saw that girl again near the practice field.
17 posted on 05/09/2005 1:10:16 AM PDT by fso301
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Having been a wrestler myself in school the only possible fear I might have had of wrestling a girl would have been being bested by her.

And while I am posting...
Just wondering if this school only allows boys to dance with boys and girls to dance with girls.






18 posted on 05/09/2005 1:10:49 AM PDT by Tungenchek
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To: beaversmom

I have been a feminist since I knew what the word meant (but in the mold of Elizabeth Cady Stanton, NOT Gloria Steinem, thank you very much!). I am 100% in favor of Title IX. But boys and girls who have reached puberty should NOT be wrestling together. How can we tell boys that NO means NO, and then say, oh, except in wrestling, that is, when you are supposed to pin girls and make them submit? This is not a good thing to be planting in impressionable boys' minds. If there are enough girls in the sport now that boys are regularly refusing to wrestle them, then there are probably enough girls to just wrestle each other. Boys and girls can compete at the same meets; just not with each other.


19 posted on 05/09/2005 1:11:32 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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I have been a feminist since I knew what the word meant (but in the mold of Elizabeth Cady Stanton, NOT Gloria Steinem, thank you very much!).

I tend to think most conservative women, especially Christian conservative women, are of like mind. It's truly unfortunate (to say the least) that the feminazi types have successfully hijacked and perverted the word "feminism" and claimed it as their own.

20 posted on 05/09/2005 1:16:29 AM PDT by k2blader (Immorality bites.)
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