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Parents taking issue with forfeits when boys don't join girls on mat
The Seattle Times ^ | May 8, 2005 | Linda Shaw

Posted on 05/09/2005 12:33:59 AM PDT by beaversmom

Edited on 05/09/2005 12:42:57 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: beaversmom
This what the feminist movement has done to males. They have made males wimps. The little wimpy mothers' boys don't want to be beat by females. They are so afraid of being beaten by a girl they refuse to even try.
41 posted on 05/09/2005 2:50:42 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Recall Barbara Boxer)
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To: cajun-jack

You're quite right...Sign Me.....Ex-wrestler!!


42 posted on 05/09/2005 3:01:38 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Jeff Gordon
The little wimpy mothers' boys don't want to be beat by females.

Maybe they were taught that gentlemen don't put little girls in an armlock or leghold and force them to submit or hurt them - are you a wrestler?

Men wrestling women is just wrong, on a number of levels, and religion has nothing to do with it.

43 posted on 05/09/2005 3:19:43 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: Jeff Gordon
They are so afraid of being beaten by a girl they refuse to even try.

Wrestling well takes a certain amount of "killer instinct", of animal intensity.

I can certainly appreciate that psyching one's self out to put the hurt on a 13 year old girl might be a bit daunting to any man, "feminized" or not.

44 posted on 05/09/2005 3:23:39 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: xsrdx

I have wrestled, and to put it mildly, one grabs certain areas, and finds one's face in very close proximity and contact with certain areas in the course of a match.


45 posted on 05/09/2005 3:49:35 AM PDT by rlmorel
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To: beaversmom

Idiot PC Crap! You train boys to not hit girls, not to treat them roughly, and then the idiots from PC lala land put girls on male wrestling teams and get mad if boys refuse to wrestle them. How much longer are we gonna put up with this crapola of either sex being interchangeable and no differences , etc.


46 posted on 05/09/2005 4:15:45 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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To: xsrdx

Any excuse will do for a wimp.


47 posted on 05/09/2005 4:21:40 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Recall Barbara Boxer)
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To: nuke rocketeer
What would the Libs do if muslim boys refused to wrestle girls? LOL I would love to see that, two pet causes going against each other.
48 posted on 05/09/2005 4:25:09 AM PDT by Bostton1 (Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns have!)
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To: endthematrix
I think the girls are "winning" because their guy opponents aren't sure where is safe to put their hands. A move or hold that is perfectly legal/safe when the guys wrestle would surely get a boy in BIG trouble when wrestling with a girl. If this had happened to me, I think I would take the forfeit rather than running the risk of being accused of fondling or 'inappropriately touching' my female counterpart.
49 posted on 05/09/2005 4:32:31 AM PDT by Conservative Infidel (Only thing harder to find in US Senate these days than a Dem w/ a conscience is a Rep w/ a spine.)
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To: beaversmom

There are just some people who were raised in such a way that they simply will not raise a hand against a woman (or a girl).

When I was in college, I took a Tae Kwon Do class, and the teacher insisted on co-ed sparring. It was something that I just wasn't capable of. I told the teacher that I wouldn't spar with a girl, but I'd be happy to spar with any of the guys. I was told to get on the mat with a girl, or I'd fail the class (1 credit). So, for a few weeks, I had to spar with both guys and girls.

I was very popular with the girls for sparring, as they got to use me as a human punching bag. All I'd do is cover up as best I could. I was also pretty unpopular with the guys as a sparring partner, as I got pretty grumpy being used as a punching bag by the girls.

After about 4 weeks, even though the teacher saw that I was capable of sparring with the guys and making some improvements, he refused to allow me to only spar with the girls, so I dropped the class.

Mark


50 posted on 05/09/2005 4:46:17 AM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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To: coconutt2000
"Before long, dating only people of the one sex will be seen as discriminatory against those of the other sex, and heterosexuality and homosexuality will be illegal, in favor of bisexualism, which is more politically correct..."

Probably correct. Ain't it a shame?

51 posted on 05/09/2005 4:47:33 AM PDT by OldEagle (We might be in the end times, but it looks like we are finally moving in the RIGHT direction.)
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To: Tungenchek

Why would you think they would have dances? My Christian high school didn't.


52 posted on 05/09/2005 4:53:10 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Don't retire to Florida. They murder their "useless eaters".)
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To: beaversmom

It seems to me that these boys are using the forfeit in a manner somehat akin to the boycotts used during civil rights protests. They are essentially boycotting those matches that violate their principles. I see nothing wrong with that approach. They take the forfeit, lose the points, that's it. They are following the rules of the sport. When you get into "why" they are using the rules a certain way, then it's Thought Police mode. The girls don't have any "right" to beat boys at wrestling on the mat; the girls have a "right" to participate in the sport, by the same rules that govern everyone. Those rules allow forfeits.


53 posted on 05/09/2005 4:56:10 AM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: Bostton1

THAT would be most amusing to watch. I'll bring the popcorn.


54 posted on 05/09/2005 4:56:44 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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To: Bostton1
How about the boys that lose to the girls, can you imagine what happens to them. I wrestled in high school and there is no way that i would have wrestled a girl for that very reason.

I think that's the real issue. No junior high school boy wants to lose to a girl and at that age. Up until the age of 13, my daughter frequently competed against boys the same age in full contact karate, and she won most of the matches.

55 posted on 05/09/2005 5:02:52 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: beaversmom
Girls can play on boys' teams but boys cannot do the same?

I have had it with the double standard!

Now I am definable going out for the women's volleyball team.


56 posted on 05/09/2005 5:08:13 AM PDT by KidGlock (Get in the pit and try to love some one)
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To: beaversmom

Checked calendar...it's not April 1st...

This isn't from the Onion...

(Shakes head)


57 posted on 05/09/2005 5:08:15 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: beaversmom
Meaghan Connors didn't have to endure any forfeits herself this year. As a seventh-grader, she wasn't McMurray's best wrestler in her weight class, so she wasn't on the varsity squad, the only one that officially competes at the middle-school level. Still, she came home upset when Shiosaki got forfeits. She told her father she felt degraded, like an "object of lust.

Theres obviously somebody else behind this. Those ACLU bas*stards want to bring everything under state supervision.

I mean, the girls get the win, and you still want to compel the boys to wrestle? You would hope the local wrestling association would rise up against this. I can't imagine this happening in my State, and I live in one of the most liberal of all of them (Md).

58 posted on 05/09/2005 5:12:24 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: beaversmom

What is this crap? Since when do girls wrestle boys???


59 posted on 05/09/2005 5:29:01 AM PDT by montag813
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To: beaversmom

Can someone please explain to me why they don't just have a girls wrestling team?

Or would that just make too much damned sense?

Regards,


60 posted on 05/09/2005 5:30:40 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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