a big 2005 Terri story with villains & victims

[Buke]

sorry for the delay. i had a long drive home off base.

funny how one of the followers here claim that i will not get respect for putting a left wing site down, yet a poll on a website called "Terri's Fight" is supposed to be neutral? give me one second and i will have my links for you as to where i got my information. i do thank you david ford. with the exception of "Terri's Fight", the other sites were informative. it did not change my opinion, but i understand now how you came to yours.

[Buke]

abstractappeal.com/schiavo

here is one site. it has a timeline as well to show what happened.

[david ford]

"yet a poll on a website called 'Terri's Fight' is supposed to be neutral"
I suspect that there isn't any such thing as a "neutral" poll.
Also, every poll result you might hear is uninterpretable, unless you know how the question was phrased, and know what remarks to the pollees preceded the question put to them.
Poll questions can be phrased in biased ways, hard-to-understand and thus hard-to-answer ways, inaccurate ways, etc.

[Buke]

sorry for the confusion. i was referring to the site, not the poll.

[Allosaurs_r_us]

i was referring to the site, not the poll.

 

I have to tell ya, anyone to friggin lazy not to use a shift key, in my opinion belongs at DU, not here at FR. You will notice we use grammar and spell checker also. It is nothing more than the proper use of the English language. Most TROLL's, and I sincerely think you are most likely of that persuasion, are too lazy too do any of the items I have explained to you. The only thing missing from typical left wing, regurgitated horse nugget, diarrhea of the brain, blather, is the potty mouth verbatim, rampant on liberal web sites.

 

A little advice, if you want to prove some sort of point, don't try using some left wing, tin foil hat, moronic author, (Greg Palast), to do so. We just won't listen. Your ranting sounds extremely just like this idiot's.

 

Oh, and BTW, I won't give you a Viking Kitty to look at, I'll just go straight for the ZOT!

[Constitutionalist Conservative]

You will notice we use grammar and spell checker also.

Well, many of us do.   

[BykrBayb]

You are an obvious troll because you signed up today to accuse Republicans of the dirty tactics the dems are practicing. From there, you moved on to lying about Terri Schindler Schiavo to support your position against the right to life. Then you linked to an article calling for the impeachment of President Bush for using our troops to fight against the terrorists.

[BykrBayb]

http://www.pete-online.us/Images/vulturesPatienceMyAss.jpg

[BykrBayb]

Metaphorically speaking, of course.

[BykrBayb]

Yes, rehashing the drinking party that took place while an innocent woman was being murdered can have that effect on some people.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

I'll add this to my Terri bookmarks. Great work!

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Stepping away from the zot frenzy, I would like to address this particular claim you made:

"...she could not be fed normally because it would kill her, hence the feeding tube..."

Please consider the judge's cynical illogic. His verdict killed her-- death by dehydration [and starvation]. The parents said there was a way of feeding her by mouth. But she might-- MIGHT choke to death? Doesn't that cause an involuntary double take?

Now consider our viewpoint. Her family played a tape which was all over talk radio-- there was a voice trying to talk. The family said it was her voice. If she was lucid enough to talk, should that not have been investigated prior to her starvation?

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"no assumption needed. the medical reports that say that she did not have one is all i need, plus that good thing called a science book that shows what parts of the brain do what."

If someone is able to attempt speech, then machines are not needed, are they? There was a grotesque lack of curiosity by the judiciary to decide if her ability to attempt verbal communication was true or not. They didn't care enough to hold a new 'blank slate' investigation, which they were given the jurisdiction to have. Therefore, their lack of humanity should result in the most painful impeachment process that politics can produce.

[Future Useless Eater]

Buh bye troll....

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Ok ok... I don't join zot frenzies lightly. But for goodness sakes, all Buke had to do was read the post that led this thread to get a clue about Terri. So I'm in:

OK I'LL JOIN THE ZOT. I GAVE IT A LOT OF THOUGHT:

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

I'm ticked off about her crude humor too. But I'll take the Bush family over death trolls any day of the week. It's the GOP's fault they didn't make a better choice in the 2000 primary. Rather than making 'Keyster' jokes, they should have been behind Keyes and demand School Choice and the National Sales tax, along with a genuine investigation of the Ron Brown crash-- which would have decimated the rat party. But they didn't think they could bite that much off back in 2000. The GOP lacked the courage necessary to support him.

[Future Useless Eater]

next time troll, try DU

[Future Useless Eater]

[Future Useless Eater]

Sorry to mess up such a purdy ZOT with a REAL POST, but here goes....

CORRECTION TO THE CORRECTION

OK, I finally found it...

Our Terri-friends were NOT mistaken about hearing or reading that Terri was at one time getting WALKING THERAPY. Apparently, Terri's medical records show that Terri HAD once been using "parallel bars" with assistance, just like the firefighter Donald Herbert...

One such report for example, came from a doctor who had examined her personally for TEN HOURS, plus he reviewed MOST IF NOT ALL OF HER EARLY MEDICAL RECORDS, and told this to Sean Hannity:

"This woman went from, right before a malpractice settlement check was given to him, she went from walking with parallel bars and assistance, having physical therapy, occupational therapy, speech therapy, speaking some words... to the state we see her now in the videotapes."

see this post 105 for more details...

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Also see this post 106 - Firefighter Donald Herbert WAS diagnosed as PVS - per his own doctor!

Now if only Terri could have only gotten a similar type of AGRESSIVE treatment!!!!

[david ford]

david ford wrote:
> Villain 1)
> _The New York Times_ for:
> a) its grossly-inaccurate portrayal of Terri Schindler Schiavo's
> actual condition

"[New York] Times vows to do better in ethics"
http://washtimes.com/national/20050509-094328-1787r.htm

Also from the 10 May 2005 issue of _The Washington Times_:

Eugenic slogan
http://www.washingtontimes.com/culture/20050510-120138-6371r.htm
Compare
1979 Schaeffer & Koop on the a-moral implications of atheism
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0504061225.4c675814%40posting.google.com

On page A14:
Jews see rise in anti-Semitism
ROME--The leader of Italy's Jewish community urged Italians
yesterday to react against "very serious" anti-Semitic incidents
reported in sports arenas and universities throughout the
country.
Amos Luzzati denounced a "bad climate" in Italy as reports of
verbal attacks against Jews multiplied in the past weeks.

On Thursday, an amateur football match had to be called off
after supporters of a local team used anti-Semitic slogans
against players of a team made up of Jewish youths.
Anti-Semitism is also on the rise in universities, Mr. Luzzati
said.
In one instance, Ruth Santos, a teacher at Turin's University,
resigned after being threatened for inviting an Israeli diplomat
to one of her classes.
Demonstrations also were held against Israeli officials holding
talks at universities in Florence and Pisa.

Compare
2004 Don Feder
http://groups.google.co.in/group/talk.origins/msg/3e1e6d8dfe1e67ec?
In secular Europe, Jews are beaten in the
streets. Our college campuses-- dogmatically
liberal-- have turned into snake pits of anti-
Zionism and anti-Semitism. The news media,
which are so hostile to Christianity, are
equally antagonistic toward Israel.