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a big 2005 Terri story with villains & victims

Posted on 05/10/2005 9:24:53 AM PDT by david ford

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To: floriduh voter
"Now the Schindler family is pleading with all America to make sure that there be no more human sacrifices to judicial tyranny."

Acutally, that might be closer to the truth than we know. Those stories of what they did to Terri and with Terri as she was dying made me think of a pagan ritual or a witches' coven. Almost like she was in fact a sacrifice.

Gathering about 30 people around her bedside to watch her die? Some kind of water ritual? No telling what else.

61 posted on 05/10/2005 12:50:26 PM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Killborn

Thanks... After reading that it reflected what I have been feeling for a long time. I feel so much better now. LOL


62 posted on 05/10/2005 12:51:01 PM PDT by Bigturbowski
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To: MHGinTN

no assumption needed. the medical reports that say that she did not have one is all i need, plus that good thing called a science book that shows what parts of the brain do what.

1992-93 huh? believe it or not, people change over time. the most recent medical reports done on her show what happened to her brain.

i am not saying that this is not a tragedy. i am saying that to assume anything without an investigation is. that is what i said about the memo leak about Bush, and until the final reports come out, that is what i am saying about Terri.

ps-no caps is my thing. i only cap names and words for emphasis.


63 posted on 05/10/2005 12:53:53 PM PDT by Buke
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To: Rightly Biased
Oh. That. hehe! Thanks.

64 posted on 05/10/2005 12:58:07 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

:-)


65 posted on 05/10/2005 12:58:45 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Some stories have more spin cycles than my Kenmore washer!)
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To: Bigturbowski

Your welcome. Glad I could help. :)


66 posted on 05/10/2005 12:59:28 PM PDT by Killborn (Yum, troll!)
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To: MarineBrat

That is too funny!


67 posted on 05/10/2005 12:59:36 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Some stories have more spin cycles than my Kenmore washer!)
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To: Rightly Biased

I'm sorwy I pinged.


68 posted on 05/10/2005 1:00:47 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Some stories have more spin cycles than my Kenmore washer!)
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To: tiredoflaundry
Thats OK I was reading the links and the rest of the thread and was about to assist you and call Meek as well.


Thanks I was flattered ;^)


I often wonder if I quit posting would anyone notice?
(btw I post everyday)
69 posted on 05/10/2005 1:05:03 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (Salvation is not a prayer and an experience its a life changing event <><)
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To: Rightly Biased

:-)


70 posted on 05/10/2005 1:11:00 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Some stories have more spin cycles than my Kenmore washer!)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
Maybe it was supposed to look like a ritual when maybe they were washing away substances that would point to substances introduced in the last ten minutes of her life.

All these death groups are giving Florida a bad name and it's hard to top the bad rep we already had.

Florida is the starvation state now.

71 posted on 05/10/2005 1:27:04 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri is America's Innocent Daughter... Pls visit www.terrisfight.org (e-newsletter).)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Holy cow you've been busy!

Checked my pings before I left work, some guy behind me says "What's with the horse's nose?"

I said "Long story."

:D

72 posted on 05/10/2005 2:13:28 PM PDT by andyandval
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To: Buke
do you know of any other blogs

Not to put too fine a point on it, but this isn't a blog.

73 posted on 05/10/2005 2:18:49 PM PDT by andyandval
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To: andyandval
"Long story."

haha! :)


74 posted on 05/10/2005 2:24:27 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
I am not saying it's so but it makes you wonder...

What ever was done to finally off the poor girl the other 29 willingly watched. They all are bound in a covenant of mutual responsibility and liability. No one ever says anything from their sick little pact because even the quasi-innocents would be accomplices.
75 posted on 05/10/2005 2:35:45 PM PDT by GulfBreeze ("Chair"ish the moment)
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To: Buke
i see that most of you have no facts to bring except for pictures of cats

************

Did someone mention cats Viking Kittens?


76 posted on 05/10/2005 2:36:53 PM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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To: Buke

> you say that the
> judge accepted that Terri told her husband that she
> did not want to be on life support as if that means i
> dont want to be fed food and water.

There was testimony from a Terri friend (Diane Meyer) about Terri comments on the situation of Karen Ann Quinlan, where the friend recollected Terri saying that as long as there is life there is hope, and opposing Karen being killed (Karen was at one point on a respirator).

> in her particular
> case, that means life support! she could not be fed
> normally because it would kill her, hence the feeding
> tube.

Eating, pain
http://groups.google.co.in/group/talk.origins/msg/8ecedff6423d6fcd?

Michael wouldn't let Terri get off "the feeding tube." This was in keeping with his anti-rehab stance, which he adopted in 1993 following the payment of malpractice lawsuit award money.

August 2003 C. Johnson re: about 1993, post-settlement
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-3aqd2vF6bflpbU1%40individual.net
4. I asked why Terri was not up in a chair, too. I learned, as
part of my training, that there was a family dispute and that the
husband, as guardian, wanted no rehabilitation for Terry. This
surprised me, as I did not think a guardian could go against a
doctor's orders like that, but I was assured that a guardian could
and that this guardian had gone against Terri's doctor's orders.
....
6. I remember seeing Michael Schiavo only once the entire
time I worked at Sabal Palms, but we were all aware that Terri
was not to be given any kind of rehabilitative help, per his
instructions. Once, I wanted to put a cloth in Tern's hand to
keep her hand from closing in on itself, but I was not permitted
to do this, as Michael Schiavo considered that to be a form of
rehabilitation.

> another claim is that she felt pain.

Eating, pain
http://groups.google.co.in/group/talk.origins/msg/8ecedff6423d6fcd?

> can someone
> explain the science behind a woman feeling pain
> even though that part of her brain that responds to
> the electrical currents that the brain receives as pain,
> is not only gone, but replaced by spinal fluid?

Reference for "part of her brain that responds to the electrical currents that the brain receives as pain, is... gone"?

When did this "part of her brain" become "gone"?

> both sides on this have made this a political story
> when it is not. this is one family, (the schindler's)
> refusal to let go and accept facts.

Do you think Michael had a "refusal to let go" of his guardianship of Terri?

> unfortunately, it is
> wackos like Randall Terry who exploited this family
> for their own political gain, and to no avail.

The ACLU supported Michael.
Ref: 2nd to last paragraph in
Nat Hentoff's article "Lying about Terri Schiavo"
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=10715

Do you think the ACLU "exploited this family for their own political gain"?

To correct some data in the last Hentoff paragraph:
$400,000 windfall for Michael's lawyer George Felos, with more loot on the way given a Terri death-by-starvation
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0504051123.408d5946%40posting.google.com

> the
> majority of polls show that the American public felt
> like this was a non issue.

See these 2 items
Zogby Poll - Americans not in favor of starving Terri
Full report in PDF Format
below "Headlines," on
http://www.terrisfight.org/


77 posted on 05/10/2005 3:19:14 PM PDT by david ford
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To: david ford

You posts are too rational for the poster to whom you posted ... me thinks an agenda is at work with the Newbie.


78 posted on 05/10/2005 3:42:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: david ford

Here's the "r" I failed to put in the first word of my post to you ... now to that nap.


79 posted on 05/10/2005 3:47:51 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MeekOneGOP


Another same-day sign-up leftist topic diverter.

Lack of capitalization is a clue to mentality.

Foreign media sources are hardly respected anymore than the MSM here.

Linking to radical's blog is never a bonus points winner.





80 posted on 05/10/2005 3:50:13 PM PDT by devolve (My WWII Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WWII.html - more traffic than DU-Koz-LDot)
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