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Madrid Bombers Trained at Bosnia-Based Al Qaeda Camps
NOVINITE (BULGARIA) ^ | 10 May 2005

Posted on 05/10/2005 7:23:28 PM PDT by Doctor13

The terrorists that carried out the Madrid bombings in March 2004 have been trained at special Al Qaeda based in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

The news was broken Tuesday by the chief of the local police department Dragomir Andan at a special press conference. RIA Novosti cited the top police chief as saying that all 11 terrorists left for Spain passing through Sarajevo.

It was also reported that the explosives used in the terror acts were produced in Bosnia.

A total of 192 people were killed and over 1,500 others were injured in the March 11, 2004 attacks in Madrid.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedabalkins; balkanalqaeda; balkans; bosnia; globaljihad; jihadineurope; kla; madridbombing; trainingcamps
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To: Destro
Who's Dragomir Andan?

He's the director of the Republika Srpska's Police Force.

Which means this news isn't news until it's corroborated by a source with some credibility, like the Spanish, for example.

Sorry, try again, etc.

21 posted on 05/11/2005 7:23:51 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Doctor13

That's not possible!!!

European Muslims are "different", they aren't like their Wahhabist buddies. (sarcasm).

Bring back the Serbs!!! Remember the Battle of Kosovo!!!


22 posted on 05/11/2005 7:31:46 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Destro; DTA; ma bell; kosta50
The muslim-dominated "Bosnia and Hercegovina" was founded SOLELY for the benefit of the islamist conquest of Europe, and later expanded to training terrorists who do their dirty work all over the world, including attacking Americans. "Bosnia" is a center not only for terrorism, but also finance, organized crime, and shipping hordes of islamic immigrants into Western Europe.

"Bosnia" is also a center for an experiment in "nation-building" by the international-fascist EU and our own international fascist "New Democrats".

It's time to end islamist "Bosnia" as we know it!!!! If Serbophobic members of this forum want to call me "Seselj" for saying this, they should realize that my views on this subject are no different from those of UN secretary-designate John Bolton.

23 posted on 05/11/2005 8:01:26 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Hristos voskrese!)
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To: getoffmylawn

Standard operating procedure, waiting for the incoming barrage of the usual spin.


24 posted on 05/11/2005 9:39:56 AM PDT by montyspython
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To: Hoplite; Destro
Which means this news isn't news until it's corroborated by a source with some credibility

And I thought Viceroy Paddy (what a cute name for a guy) made sure all the officials of the RS are our little "trustworthy" puppets and fired all those elected by the free will of the people, teaching the Serbs how democracy works?

It just goes to show you that those Serbs who sell their soul to the devil can't buy his trust. I wish someone would tell that to the Democrats and the Civic Alliance trash in Belgrade.

25 posted on 05/11/2005 2:08:06 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Honorary Serb; DTA; ma bell
Bosnia" is also a center for an experiment in "nation-building" by the international-fascist EU and our own international fascist "New Democrats"

It's the opposite of Kosovo experiment. The only two threadas that seem to be the same are (1) the Serbs have no rights either to self-determination or to to keep what is legitimately theirs, and (2) the US is playing a schizophrenic card supporting Islamic extremists in the Balkans against their traditional allies (the Serbs), while battling the same Islamic extremists in the Middle East.

As they say, "go figure."

26 posted on 05/11/2005 2:15:34 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
Ah Kosta, you're just how I like my Serb nationalists - bitter.

BANJA LUKA, Bosnia and Herzegovina (BiH) -- Republika Srpska Police Chief Dragomir Andan said Tuesday (10 May) that the 11 people responsible for the March 2004 terror attack on trains in Madrid may have fought in the BiH conflict years ago.

As soon as you figure out exactly what Adnan may or may not have said, lemme know, m'kay Kosta?

We can hash out the veracity of any claims made thereafter.

27 posted on 05/11/2005 2:53:17 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Enough said....!!!!

28 posted on 05/11/2005 5:11:46 PM PDT by dj_animal_2000
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To: dj_animal_2000
Wow - those pictures really serve to move the conversation away from the fact that Adnan is going to get called on the carpet for talking smack, don't they?

What the hell, if it doesn't work here, you can still use 'em on other threads, in the same manner.

Still, it's a good thing you posted these, else we would have sent our soldiers into Bosnia where those folks would have attacked 'em day and night.

Hey, wait a minute...

29 posted on 05/11/2005 6:36:44 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: kosta50; Destro; DTA; ma bell; FormerLib; Hoplite

This URL has a Newsweek article that gives all sorts of interesting Madrid/"Bosnia"/Al Qaeda/KLA connections.

http://www.libertythink.com/2004_03_28_archives.html

I don't think that Newsweek is published in Srpska, or that it is particulary pro-Serbian. Am I wrong?

Well, I'm NOT wrong in believing that no tin-pot fascist gauleiter like Paddy Ashdown should have the right to censure, fire, or jail the good cop Andan. Free Srpska!!!!


30 posted on 05/11/2005 8:49:12 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Hristos voskrese!)
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To: Hoplite

Translate please

http://www.islambosna.ba/


31 posted on 05/11/2005 11:00:53 PM PDT by dj_animal_2000
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To: Honorary Serb; Hoplite
9/11 Suspect Claims Pressure to Implicate

By DANIEL WOOLLS, Associated Press Writer Wed May 4, 4:05 PM ET

MADRID, Spain - An accused Islamic militant who says he is simply a martial arts and physical education instructor burst into tears Wednesday as he denied belonging to a terrorist cell that allegedly helped plot the Sept. 11 attacks.

Abdulla Khayata Katan, 29, also claimed that Spain's top counterterrorism judge browbeat him into making false statements about fellow defendants.

Katan said guards at a Jordanian jail humiliated and abused him during a three-day interrogation in February 2004.

Judge Baltasar Garzon, an investigative magistrate, then pressured him into falsely incriminating the accused terror cell leader, Imad Yarkas, and others, Katan said.

"I am completely innocent," he said. "I have nothing to do with what they accuse me of."

Hours of the taped testimony were played in court Wednesday. In it, Katan did not complain or sound like he was speaking under duress.

But as the tape played, Katan interjected often. He accused Garzon of putting words in his mouth to suggest Yarkas recruited men for terrorist training in Bosnia and Afghanistan.

Katan said Garzon interrogated him without a translator and at times turned off the recorder to tell him what to say. Katan said the statements he made during the interrogation had "nothing to do with reality."

"I was following Garzon," said Katan, a Spaniard of Syrian origin who was turned over to Spanish officials after the interrogation.

After one session, Katan said Garzon told him to sign a document he did not understand.

"Don't worry, just sign it," Katan quoted Garzon as saying.

When Judge Javier Gomez Bermudez asked why Katan waited until now to recant his statements, the defendant said he had written Garzon five letters asking to testify again, but Garzon refused those requests.

Katan is one of 24 suspected al-Qaida members on trial in Madrid since April 22.

Three are accused specifically of helping plot the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States. In testimony last week, Yarkas denied charges he helped arrange a July 2001 planning session in Spain for a suspected suicide pilot and an alleged coordinator of the airline attacks against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

The other 21 defendants, including Katan, face charges of terrorism, illegal possession of weapons or explosives or other offenses. Katan is not accused of having direct involvement in the Sept. 11 plot.

Garzon indicted these and other fugitive defendants in the case but is not presiding over the trial. He is in New York on a leave of absence, teaching courses on how to fight terrorism.

Prosecutors say Katan was recruited by Yarkas in 1995 to travel from Spain to Bosnia and teach Islamic fighters at a terrorism training camp. He returned to Spain in 1996, formed an offshoot of an al-Qaida cell and aided mujahedeen fighting in Bosnia and Afghanistan, according to prosecutor Pedro Rubira.

Katan acknowledged that he knew Yarkas and Mustafa Setmariam, a fugitive Syrian suspected of being a senior al-Qaida operative, but only from their fund-raising and recruiting activity at a Madrid mosque.

He described them as insistent, domineering men.

"They imposed their way, dominating people," Katan said in the tape.

He said while in Zenica, Bosnia, in 1995, he spent time at a house with Islamic fighters, but only worked there as a martial arts and physical education instructor.

The trial resumes Monday. Sessions are only held Monday through Wednesday.

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Hmmmmm....I wonder if AP is as well a Serbian news agency...

Looks like Andan was right....and Hoplite and his mudjahedin buddies (AGAIN...!!!)...dead wrong...!!!!

32 posted on 05/11/2005 11:20:13 PM PDT by dj_animal_2000
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To: dj_animal_2000
Hmmmmm....I wonder if AP is as well a Serbian news agency...

Aw c'mon. Obviously the prosecutor must be Serbian :-D

33 posted on 05/12/2005 7:52:12 AM PDT by getoffmylawn (Don't *bleep* with Ozzie Guillen. Go White Sox! Give 'em hell, Ozzie!)
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To: kosta50

ping


34 posted on 05/12/2005 7:54:50 AM PDT by getoffmylawn (Don't *bleep* with Ozzie Guillen. Go White Sox! Give 'em hell, Ozzie!)
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To: Honorary Serb
BUMP TO THAT!!
35 posted on 05/12/2005 8:08:09 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: dj_animal_2000

Didn't know the AP was an arm of the Serbian propoganda machine. < / sarcasm >


36 posted on 05/12/2005 9:46:43 AM PDT by montyspython
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To: dj_animal_2000; Honorary Serb
Look kiddies - the fact that Al Qaeda sent folks to fight in Bosnia and tried to set up shop there is a given.

But that doesn't mean that Bosnia is tied to each and every event those folks were involved in after their departure - neither 9/11 or the Madrid attacks feature Bosnia as a central element in either their planning or execution. It is merely one of the countries the jihadis visited in the 1990's, and has about as much to do with both attacks as Afghanistan, Sudan, or Chechnya.

I don't know where you get this notion that "6 degrees of separation" has become the last word in retroactively justifying Serbia's invasion of Bosnia, but unless you disabuse yourselves of the notion, you're in for nothing but continued disappointment.

As it stands, Andan is likely to lose his job over this fiasco if he can't back up his words - in the real world, folks are sometimes held accountable for their actions and statements.

How nice it would be if FR were the same.

37 posted on 05/12/2005 10:06:01 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
Nice excuse...Hoplite....!!!!

It was confirmed in Sarajevo that the Muslim authorities of Bosnia-Herzegovina had issued a passport to Osama bin Laden at the Bosnian embassy in Vienna in 1993.
38 posted on 05/12/2005 3:06:58 PM PDT by dj_animal_2000
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To: dj_animal_2000
It was confirmed in Sarajevo that the Muslim authorities of Bosnia-Herzegovina had issued a passport to Osama bin Laden at the Bosnian embassy in Vienna in 1993.

Really?

Then you should have no problem identifying the official who confirmed this, and providing his statement to that effect, right?

If, on the other hand, what it was was Dani reporting the musings of an "unnamed source", you'll have merely demonstrated your gullibility again, won't you?

I've chased this one down, dj - it isn't going to end happily for you.

39 posted on 05/12/2005 3:43:23 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
I've chased this one down, dj - it isn't going to end happily for you.

As they (Bosnian government) gone tell YOU, if they gave Osama a passport or not....HAHAHAHAHAA.....!!!!

YEAH RIGHT...!!!!

Can you translate this:

"Bin Laden i familija: Alamoudi je, izmeðu ostalog, bio i zamjenik direktora Taibah International Aid Agency, èiji je jedan od osnivaèa bio Abdullah bin Laden, neæak Osame bin Ladena. Taibah je imao urede i u Bosni i Albaniji, a sada je registriran u Hadžiæima."

Esad Heæimoviæ, Dani, Sarajevo, Broj 361 - 14.05.2004

Anyway....Andan was right...you were wrong...!!!...And AP and spanish court confirmed it...

40 posted on 05/13/2005 9:43:27 AM PDT by dj_animal_2000
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