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Bills Could Grant Legality To 10 Million Immigrants
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | May 12, 2005 | Jerry Kammer

Posted on 05/12/2005 8:46:37 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds

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To: politicalwit

You nailed that one. $2000 a year would be the American dream.


101 posted on 05/12/2005 10:18:50 AM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: HiJinx

~ping~


102 posted on 05/12/2005 10:19:42 AM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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To: nosofar

I just want to throw up!


103 posted on 05/12/2005 10:20:21 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GET REAL: Prosecute employers who hire illegals=end of problem.)
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To: Travis McGee
That is NOT going to go on for long. Our judges will NEVER permit a permanent "slave class" in the USA. This is what is going to happen instead, when the judiciary eventually takes up this case.

Which is yet another good reason to get conservative judges approved.

104 posted on 05/12/2005 10:20:54 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: Travis McGee
Teddy is indeed "spit upon and reviled by all honorable Bostonians."

Unfortunately, hororable Bostonians are in the distinct minority.

105 posted on 05/12/2005 10:21:15 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Travis McGee
All we need to do is cut them off from the Great American Mammary Gland, and they will go home all by themselves.

OK. I have to agree that there is no reason we need to make it easy for illegal immigrants to live here.

106 posted on 05/12/2005 10:22:39 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: Mr. Mojo
hororable Bostonians

Darn, that is the first time I have ever seen "honorable" and "Bostonians" used in the same sentence. Color me surprised.

107 posted on 05/12/2005 10:23:48 AM PDT by engrpat
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To: moehoward
Tell you what. I'll bet that if we just started actively pursuing those on the lamb from deportation orders. And sent them back, testing the streamlined provisions in the realID bill. You would see such a shockwave many would pack it on on their own.

I'm not that optimistic, but it couldn't hurt to try it.

108 posted on 05/12/2005 10:24:53 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
I just want to throw up!

Just please find a toilet first.

109 posted on 05/12/2005 10:25:51 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: An.American.Expatriate
"And this will stop illegal imigration how??"

By means of a juked up sham "process" periodically proclaiming them all legal, at say a 5 million or so clip, and then insisting that none of this amounts to an amnesty.

Crack down now on employers of illegal aliens, cut off absolutely all benefits to illegal aliens, and start deporting the ones already here as discovered.

All of them -- OUT.

110 posted on 05/12/2005 10:26:08 AM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Scenic Sounds

And, honest-to-gosh, McCain, with apparently a straight face, told a radio show caller that this bill will stop illegal immigration.

Seventy percent of the people in our state voted to re-elect this guy.

I didn't.


111 posted on 05/12/2005 10:27:05 AM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Czar

Amen. I emailed this to the pres as my "dream" immigration bill.


112 posted on 05/12/2005 10:27:58 AM PDT by tertiary01
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To: politicalwit
""They would have to pay $2,000 in fines and processing fees for having entered the country illegally. After six years, these workers and their families could apply for permanent residency."

No sale.

113 posted on 05/12/2005 10:28:03 AM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Scenic Sounds

You know I'd almost accept another 10 to 12 million illegals IF Mexico would take McCain AND Kennedy!


114 posted on 05/12/2005 10:28:42 AM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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To: nosofar
8 to 10 million people are just too many to punish or deport.

Those are gov't figures, and as such should be taken with a grain of salt. It's usually pretty safe to multiply any figure by 3 that the gov't deems in their best interest to keep low. ...for public consumption.

So I'd put that figure at closer to 30 million.

The only thing we can do in the long run is legalize them.

No, the best thing we can do is to cut off all their social freebies and prosecute employers who hire them. Millions of them would then head back to their homeland.

115 posted on 05/12/2005 10:29:00 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: nosofar
Logistics. Practicality. 10,000,000 illegal immigrants. Let's say we will deport all of them over the next 10 years, ...

      Balderdash.  Let's say it costs $1000 a head to send illegals back to where they came from.  Total cost?  $10 billion.  But that $10 billion would stay in this country.  The illegals send more than that back to their families (out of the country) each year. 
      10 years?  Let's make it one year.  That's 27,000 per day - or 550 per state, average.  That's 10 busloads a day per state.  Sounds doable to me. 
      And by the way -
close the borders.

116 posted on 05/12/2005 10:30:10 AM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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To: Scenic Sounds
guest-worker program would allow employers to bring in 400,000 foreign workers in its first year. After that, the cap would be adjusted annually based on demand. The cap could change no more than a fixed percentage a year, sources said, and those workers could eventually apply to permanently reside in the United States.

So much for the 65,000 cap on H1B's - a temprary visa. Now we will have 400,000 employment based permanent residency visas instead?

117 posted on 05/12/2005 10:30:30 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Czar; nosofar; Chieftain

YES!!!!

I have the perfect idea for a protest on this illegal immigration. We get a thousand Freeprs to go to DC and literally throw up in front of the Immigration Offices.
Nobody would get arrested.


118 posted on 05/12/2005 10:31:13 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GET REAL: Prosecute employers who hire illegals=end of problem.)
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To: righttackle44
McCain, with apparently a straight face, told a radio show caller that this bill will stop illegal immigration.

He can make a straight face? It must have taken him a great deal of effort. (He must have had Captain Quieeg's Stainless Steel Comfort Balls clicking away in both hands.)

It will take getting Senator Quislings booted from office to cause the rest of our congress critters to "see the light."

119 posted on 05/12/2005 10:32:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: FastCoyote
"...even helped start a Spanish language TV station..."

There are too damned many Spanish radio and TV stations as it is. Just exactly how does this facilitate assimilation? They don't, because they appeal to illegals who do not assimilate, have little interest in learning english, and prefer to live with other illegals.

120 posted on 05/12/2005 10:34:08 AM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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