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Judge hands down $1.35 million judgement(Ranch Rescue Texas)
LAREDO MORNING TIMES ^ | 05/13/05 | CLAY REDDICK

Posted on 05/13/2005 3:32:42 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch

Two years after a harrowing encounter between illegal immigrants and members of Ranch Rescue, the two immigrants are legal and two of the alleged vigilantes are behind bars.

Although neither side claimed total victory in a Jim Hogg County civil lawsuit over the incident, the 229th District Court handed down a $1.35 million default judgement in April against two former members of Ranch Rescue who were already in prison.

"We believe the suit has gone a long way in keeping these vigilantes out of South Texas," said Ricardo de Anda, an attorney for the plaintiffs.

A Texas chapter of Ranch Rescue - a national volunteer organization that strives to protect border ranch-land owners from "drug smugglers, criminal gang members, bandits, thugs, and international terrorists" who cross illegally, according to their Web site - encountered the two immigrants in March 2003 at Joseph Sutton's Jim Hogg County ranch where the organization had been called in to deter the constant flow of trespassers.

"The Ranch Rescue network stands ready to organize volunteers to come to the aid of private landowners when those landowners are ignored and marginalized by their own local, county, state, and federal law enforcement and elected representatives," said Ranch Rescue USA National spokesman Jack Wright in an e-mail.

The immigrants, Edwin Alfredo Mancia Gonzales and Fatima del Socorro Leiva Medina, had just crossed the border when they were detained on the Sutton ranch by armed men. They later said the men threatened to kill them and that one of the men, whom they later identified as Casey Nethercott, pistol-whipped Mancia Gonzales.

Nethercott was arrested on assault and other charges, but the assault charge was later dropped.

Joseph Sutton asked Ranch Rescue to patrol his land, where he and his wife would see up to 75 trespassers a day, said Sutton's attorney Ed Watt.

"[Sutton] knows 90 percent of people crossing are just looking for a better way of life," Watt said. But the elderly couple was concerned about armed coyotes and drug gangs and dissatisfied with Border Patrol service.

Although sympathetic to the difficulty of the Border Patrol's job, the Suttons got tired of Border Patrol failing to respond to their calls, Watt said. They viewed Ranch Rescue as a patriotic group that could help stem the trespassing problem, but they insist that they did not condone violence by the group.

According to court documents, Leiva Medina and Mancia Gonzalez crossed the border and paid a truck driver $200 to give them a ride. The driver dropped them off before reaching a Border Patrol checkpoint, and they began walking through a field in the dark.

After crossing a fence onto the Sutton ranch, the immigrants heard people coming and hid in brush. They were found by dogs and detained by three men, later identified by the immigrants as Nethercott, Jack Foote and Henry Mark Conner.

At that point, the immigrants charged, they were ordered to come out at gunpoint and Nethercott struck Mancia Gonzales. After a while, the two were released on a road and turned themselves in to Border Patrol agents.

Foote and Conner were not charged in the case, but Jim Hogg County prosecutors initially charged Nethercott with assault, unlawful detention and possession of an illegal weapon.

The assault and unlawful detention charges were dropped after a trial resulted in a hung jury, according to Nethercott's attorney Joseph Jacobson.

The weapons charge stuck, though, and Nethercott began serving a five-year sentence April 18 in a Texas prison.

Foote also is in prison, but in Arizona, on an unrelated weapons conviction.

Leiva Medina and Mancia Gonzales, with the aid of Laredo attorneys, the Mexican American Defense Fund and the Southern Poverty Law Center, filed a civil lawsuit over the alleged confrontation on June 26, 2003.

Ranch Rescue Texas and members Nethercott, Jack Foote and Henry Mark Conner were named as defendants in the suit. The Suttons also were named in the lawsuit.

In December, the Suttons chose to settle for $100,000 because it would have been more expensive to fight the suit, Ed Watt said.

The plaintiffs' attorneys dropped the suit against Conner, who they say was marginally involved, and the state organization, which dissolved after Nethercott and Foote were arrested and another member, not named in the lawsuit, was shot in a confrontation with federal agents.

Both Foote and Nethercott failed to answer the civil lawsuit. On April 19, the 229th district court awarded the plaintiffs $500,000 against Foote and $850,000 against Nethercott.

"[Nethercott] didn't have the money to make it worthwhile to defend the case," Jacobson said.

Attorneys for neither the plaintiffs nor the defense expect Leiva Medina and Mancia Gonzales to get very much money beyond the settlement with the Suttons, though.

Plaintiffs' attorneys are seeking to seize a piece of Arizona land owned by Nethercott. The land may fetch another $100,000 for the plaintiffs, de Anda said, but the defendants don't have much wealth.

De Anda and the other plaintiffs' attorneys helped Mancia Gonzales and Leiva Medina obtain work visas. Mancia Gonzales now works for a janitorial service in Los Angeles, and Leiva Medina works at a restaurant in Dallas.

The national Ranch Rescue organization, which was not a defendant in the lawsuit, continues to operate. They have provided private security to a wildlife preserve in Colorado and have another action planned in Arizona in spring and summer, national spokesman Wright said.

Neither Foote nor Nethercott is associated with Ranch Rescue any longer, he said.

(To reach Clay Reddick, call 728-2582 or e-mail clay@lmtonline.com)


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KEYWORDS: aliens; extortion; getonthegravytrain; immigrantlist; lawsuit; ranchrescue; shootshovelshutup; texas
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Illegals are now legal!
1 posted on 05/13/2005 3:32:43 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch
"[Sutton] knows 90 percent of people crossing are just looking for a better way of life"

Hmmm.. By this reason Al Capone and his ilk and, for that matter, any crook are really OK since what they are doing is JUST to get a better way of life. Yeah, that's it - I get it now /sarc

3 posted on 05/13/2005 3:38:55 PM PDT by drt1
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To: SwinneySwitch

It appears that way, and it will get worse if Kennedy and Mc Cain, have their way...I think we should send all the illegals to Arizonia and
the Kennedy compound, this immigration ordeal is finally getting the attention it deserves


4 posted on 05/13/2005 3:39:13 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: SwinneySwitch
De Anda and the other plaintiffs' attorneys helped Mancia Gonzales and Leiva Medina obtain work visas. Mancia Gonzales now works for a janitorial service in Los Angeles, and Leiva Medina works at a restaurant in Dallas.

How about we make a change in the rules? We have guest-worker programs available, but if someone sneeks in illegally, he becomes permanently ineligible.

5 posted on 05/13/2005 3:39:22 PM PDT by Nathaniel Fischer
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To: rocksblues; conservativecorner; international american; Boston Blackie; libertylass; Marauder; ...

Texas Invasion Ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off this South Texas/Mexico ping list.


6 posted on 05/13/2005 3:40:36 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Remember, this is only a temporary exile!)
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To: Nathaniel Fischer

There is a well established legal immigration process. We should use it. There is no need to make stuff up on the fly. there are legitimate applicants who are lawfully waiting to get in; they should get preference over a slimbag who unlawfully hops over a fence.


7 posted on 05/13/2005 3:42:39 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: SwinneySwitch

No illegal alien should have standing to sue anyone about anything.


8 posted on 05/13/2005 3:44:49 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: SwinneySwitch

No illegal alien should have standing to sue anyone about anything.


9 posted on 05/13/2005 3:47:38 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: omega4412
No illegal alien should have standing to sue anyone about anything.

Couldn't agree more!
11 posted on 05/13/2005 3:50:29 PM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: ARCADIA
There is a well established legal immigration process. We should use it. There is no need to make stuff up on the fly.

There may be a process now, but it could stand to change if it allows someone to sneek in, get caught and thrown out, and then reapply and be allowed back in. When his first act in the country is to break the law, everyone willing to legally go through the application process the first time should get priority.

12 posted on 05/13/2005 3:52:28 PM PDT by Nathaniel Fischer
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To: ARCADIA
My wife and I have been trying for more than two years to get a friend to immigrate from Russia. We've had to jump through all kinds of hoops. Criminal background checks on us and on her. Credit checks all around and we're fully responsible until she achieves full citizenship. She isn't coming for farm work, she's a doctor.
14 posted on 05/13/2005 3:52:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Disgusting. What country am I living in?


15 posted on 05/13/2005 3:53:44 PM PDT by dennisw (the country music station plays soft but there’s nothing, really nothing to turn off)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


16 posted on 05/13/2005 3:54:35 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: SwinneySwitch
the 229th District Court handed down a $1.35 million default judgement in April against two former members of Ranch Rescue who were already in prison.

...At that point, the immigrants charged, they were ordered to come out at gunpoint and Nethercott struck Mancia Gonzales. After a while, the two were released on a road and turned themselves in to Border Patrol agents.

Foote and Conner were not charged in the case, but Jim Hogg County prosecutors initially charged Nethercott with assault, unlawful detention and possession of an illegal weapon.

The assault and unlawful detention charges were dropped after a trial resulted in a hung jury, according to Nethercott's attorney Joseph Jacobson.

The weapons charge stuck, though, and Nethercott began serving a five-year sentence April 18 in a Texas prison.

Foote also is in prison, but in Arizona, on an unrelated weapons conviction.

Do I have this right? Two illegals find a lawyer after they're turned over to Border Patrol (who should have sent them packing back to Mexico in the first place). They scream "assault" but can't convice a jury. Two of the characters that cornered the illegals on the ranch get convicted on weapons charges (gotta wonder about that) so just to frost the cake of injustice, a district court hands them 1.35 MILLION!

Judges make the law in America. Lots of laughs under the old sombrero tonight. This case provides the perfect example of why non-citizens should not have the rights of citizens and that includes the justice system.

17 posted on 05/13/2005 3:57:14 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: ARCADIA
There is a well established legal immigration process. We should use it. There is no need to make stuff up on the fly. there are legitimate applicants who are lawfully waiting to get in; they should get preference over a slimbag who unlawfully hops over a fence.<

I know a Korean couple who have tried to do everything legally and have had a lot of VISA trouble. Then I see these guys get all of these benefits for "hopping the fence." Something's not right about that.

18 posted on 05/13/2005 3:59:12 PM PDT by moog
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To: SwinneySwitch
At least Nethercott is in jail where he belongs. This is the same idiot who recently threatened to use machine guns on anyone crossing the border illegally. Mass murder is not a solution to illegal immigration. If we condone such actions then we'd be no better than Nazi Germany.
19 posted on 05/13/2005 3:59:26 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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To: SwinneySwitch

This is bad. I hope the Minuteman project succeeds, with their strategy of "report, don't confront." Because thanks to this lawsuit, citizen's arrests are now out of the question. Absent success from the Minutemen, the outcome of Ranch Rescue suite might just inspire some to adopt "shoot, shovel, and shut up" tactics.


20 posted on 05/13/2005 4:00:39 PM PDT by Rytwyng (I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"Plaintiffs' attorneys are seeking to seize a piece of Arizona land owned by Nethercott. The land may fetch another $100,000 for the plaintiffs, de Anda said, but the defendants don't have much wealth."

So, in a nutshell it seems like this: illegal invaders with the help of "American" leftists have managed to imprison and bankrupt two other Americans for detaining them during their incursion on private property. In addition the invaders were given American residency. Did I miss any salient point(s)?
21 posted on 05/13/2005 4:01:01 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (To hell with Mexico, its policies, and its leaders)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Border Vigilante Bump


22 posted on 05/13/2005 4:01:20 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: COEXERJ145

"Mass murder is not a solution to illegal immigration."

That attitude is why we're on track to become part of "Occupied Aztlan."


23 posted on 05/13/2005 4:01:54 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Rytwyng

"I hope the Minuteman project succeeds, with their strategy of "report, don't confront." "

It won't.


24 posted on 05/13/2005 4:02:37 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: omega4412
No illegal alien should have standing to sue anyone about anything.

The President's refusal to enforce immigration laws has given illegal aliens a sense of entitlement like nothing we've ever witnessed here in America.

With decisions like this, it will only get worse as illegal aliens complain about alleged mistreatment. The gravy train has taken off...

25 posted on 05/13/2005 4:04:54 PM PDT by janetgreen (Minuteman Project = American Patriotism)
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To: COEXERJ145

Nobody was murdered in this incident and people were trying to flee Nazi Germany!


26 posted on 05/13/2005 4:06:02 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Remember, this is only a temporary exile!)
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To: janetgreen
With decisions like this, it will only get worse as illegal aliens complain about alleged mistreatment. The gravy train has taken off...

It may also inspire a much greater mistreatment that will prevent them from ever suing anyone. Wrong, but, the incentive has now been created for it.

27 posted on 05/13/2005 4:06:50 PM PDT by Rytwyng (I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
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To: SwinneySwitch

I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again - Former Houston Oilers
coach Bum Phillips


28 posted on 05/13/2005 4:08:17 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (REMEMBER - If you send it, they'll spend it!)
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To: omega4412
I absolutely agree. How can an illegal alien sue when he is not even supposed to be in this country? You cannot sue for illegal behavior. Judges in this country are going berserk, setting themselves up as dictators. They can overturn anything. Look at Judge Greer who denied Terri due process. And Judge Hiller Zobel overturned Louise Woodward's conviction. Why even have a jury trial?
29 posted on 05/13/2005 4:08:18 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: omega4412

agreed


30 posted on 05/13/2005 4:09:15 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (REMEMBER - If you send it, they'll spend it!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Never said they were. I said that Nethercott recently announced that he and his cronies would use machine guns against illegals. Thankfully he is in jail.


31 posted on 05/13/2005 4:11:27 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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To: SwinneySwitch
" . . . failed to answer the civil lawsuit."

Never a good idea.

32 posted on 05/13/2005 4:11:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: cripplecreek

I hear Russia's been very reluctant, due to their looming demographic crisis, to let any of its citizens emmigrate, and especially women.


34 posted on 05/13/2005 4:24:45 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: SwinneySwitch
The immigrants, Edwin Alfredo Mancia Gonzales and Fatima del Socorro Leiva Medina, had just crossed the border when they were detained on the Sutton ranch by armed men. They later said the men threatened to kill them and that one of the men, whom they later identified as Casey Nethercott, pistol-whipped Mancia Gonzales.

Nethercott was arrested on assault and other charges, but the assault charge was later dropped.

What was Nethercott later charged with - stopping a tresspasser? I guess tresspassing is no longer considered illegal.

35 posted on 05/13/2005 4:26:16 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Question Liberalism)
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To: dennisw

Not the one it used to be.


36 posted on 05/13/2005 4:26:21 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: cripplecreek

She's white, they're not going to just let her in.


37 posted on 05/13/2005 4:27:20 PM PDT by Husker24
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What do American troops in South Korea do when the border that they are manning at our expense is breached by parties from the North?


39 posted on 05/13/2005 4:30:59 PM PDT by Eaker (..Let them throw cake!! . (TheMom)
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To: omega4412
No illegal alien should have standing to sue anyone about anything

bump

41 posted on 05/13/2005 4:32:42 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: COEXERJ145

"Never said they were. I said that Nethercott recently announced that he and his cronies would use machine guns against illegals. Thankfully he is in jail."

Can you point to the exact quote? I hadn't heard about it.

I'm not sure that just saying something like that can get someone to jail, btw. I'm also not convinced that someone who says things like that should be imprisoned, since no actual crime has been committed. What a slippery slope!


42 posted on 05/13/2005 4:33:00 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Rytwyng
much greater mistreatment that will prevent them from ever suing anyone

It wouldn't surprise me if this was already going on...the resentment is growing and growing.

43 posted on 05/13/2005 4:33:04 PM PDT by janetgreen (Minuteman Project = American Patriotism)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Sends another message to illegal invaders and otm terrorists..

The courts trump everything in America...

America is a puta...and lays down easily for anyone and anybody anytime..

come on in and take her...she's easy and not only free she pays bonuses to those who use and abuse her...


Yet we sacrifice our own children to free Iraq and are fighting to protect her borders...

imo


44 posted on 05/13/2005 4:35:13 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: mvpel
Russia is especially touchy about letting doctors go. She says they encourage people to have children as if it were the soviet era but people can't afford children. Also alcoholism and drug addiction are epidemic among Russian men. Her fiancee killed himself a few years back. He was also a state doctor but treating unnecessarily terminal children was too much for him. (social medicine on steroids)
45 posted on 05/13/2005 4:37:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
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To: All
Militia leader booked into Texas prison (Casey Nethercott)
46 posted on 05/13/2005 4:44:33 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Eaker; Happy2BMe; B4Ranch
This is the same idiot who recently threatened to use machine guns on anyone crossing the border illegally. Mass murder is not a solution to illegal immigration. If we condone such actions then we'd be no better than Nazi Germany. - COEXERJ145




What do American troops in South Korea do when the border that they are manning at our expense is breached by parties from the North?


39 posted on 05/13/2005 5:30:59 PM MDT by Eaker (..Let them throw cake!! . (TheMom)
Damn straight Eaker BUMP!
47 posted on 05/13/2005 4:45:52 PM PDT by glock rocks (For the love of all that's good and decent, don't try this at home)
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To: COEXERJ145
If we condone such actions then we'd be no better than Nazi Germany.

First opf all, no one is condoning such activities and I believe Nethercott himself would not resort to such tatics despite his bravado. That's probably all it is...and that is not a crime unless a direct threat is made against specific people and it can be shown he planned to carry out the threat. Foolish to say such thing? Perhaps...but not illegal. p> Beyond that, your comparison to Nazi Germany doesn't hold water. Hitler gassed people by the millions who were legal citizens of his own country and people whom he had imprisoned from other copuntries he had conquered in a brutal fashion. Nothing remotely similar is happening here or is sought. To the contrary, it is we that are being invaded by illegal aliens coming into this nation in violation of our own laws. It is perfectly letgal to make a citizen's arrest against someone who is committing a crime and then hold them for police. You just have to be sure it is a crime and that you do not harm or injure them unwarranted in the process.

But apparently now, Judges are willing to hand out rediculous settlements for something that common sense tells you was a non-issue, except that two illegals...criminals by any other definition...were stoiped from entering this country.

As to the alleged injuries to the one alien, I have never seen any report or pictures of the injuries the illegal sustained...in fact, a jury apparently wouldn't convict.

I'd like to know the details of the weapons charges. We found at Ruby Ridge and at Waco how those type charges can be trumped up to the point of getting people imprisoned and killed by our own agencies

48 posted on 05/13/2005 4:46:48 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Cowboy Bob
What was Nethercott later charged with - stopping a tresspasser?

Here you go:

Foote and Conner were not charged in the case, but Jim Hogg County prosecutors initially charged Nethercott with assault, unlawful detention and possession of an illegal weapon.

The assault and unlawful detention charges [against Nethercott] were dropped after a trial resulted in a hung jury, according to Nethercott's attorney Joseph Jacobson.

The weapons charge stuck, though, and Nethercott began serving a five-year sentence April 18 in a Texas prison.

Foote also is in prison, but in Arizona, on an unrelated weapons conviction.

49 posted on 05/13/2005 4:47:11 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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