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Mexico to Send Protest Letter to U.S. (about extention of wall at California-Mexico border)
AP ^ | May 13, 2005 | TRACI CARL

Posted on 05/14/2005 10:21:08 PM PDT by FairOpinion

MEXICO CITY - Mexico will send a diplomatic letter to the United States protesting the extension of a wall along the U.S.-California border, officials said Friday.

Ruben Aguilar, a spokesman for President Vicente Fox, said the president would also continue to pressure the U.S. government to approve a migration accord that would allow more migrants to work legally north of the border.

President Bush proposed a temporary work program last year, but it has stalled amid opposition in Congress.

Mexican Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez said Thursday that Fox had instructed him to send the diplomatic letter with the message that the wall's construction was "unacceptable and not a solution."

A corrugated metal wall — dubbed the "Tortilla Wall" — goes all around the edge of Tijuana, but a second and more substantial layer of barriers that was built behind the first one that is incomplete and, among other things, does not stretch out into the Pacific. The measures passed this week allow for the completion of that second layer of barriers.

The upcoming letter will be Mexico's first formal protest of new U.S. immigration regulations that require states to verify that people who apply for a driver's license are in the country legally.

The rules also make it harder for migrants to gain amnesty, and easier to override environmental laws to build a barrier along the Mexican border in California.

The new provisions were signed by Bush on Wednesday and threaten to unravel recently patched relations between the United States and Mexico.

"We hope it doesn't make things worse than they already are, which is the obvious anger that building walls is not the way to resolve things along the border," Derbez said.

Fox and Bush were close friends after their elections in 2000, but relations between the two deteriorated after Fox opposed the U.S.-led war in Iraq and Bush failed to pursue a migration accord amid terrorism fears.

Derbez said the Mexican government would continue to support the use of the country's consular identification cards, issued by the Mexican government to migrants living abroad.

Many migrants use the cards for official business, like opening bank accounts, boarding planes and getting a driver's license.

Some in the United States have argued the cards help people move illegally in the country, and they have lobbied U.S. cities and businesses not to accept them.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: California
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Mexican Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez said Thursday that Fox had instructed him to send the diplomatic letter with the message that the wall's construction was "unacceptable and not a solution."

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This is preposterous and stupid.

1 posted on 05/14/2005 10:21:08 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

I used to have a neighbor that got mad at me for not letting his kids play in my front yard. I told him what Bush should tell Fox.


2 posted on 05/14/2005 10:24:14 PM PDT by digitalbrownshirt
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To: FairOpinion

Update:

"Rubén Aguilar, a spokesman for President Vicente Fox, said early Friday the letter would be sent in the next few hours. But a spokesman for the Foreign Relations Secretariat said in the evening that the missive wouldn't be ready until Monday. He could provide no further details or reasons for the delay."

http://www2.eluniversal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=10490&tabla=miami


3 posted on 05/14/2005 10:26:11 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

"Criminals complain about increased security at prison"
'Film at 11:00"

What the????


4 posted on 05/14/2005 10:28:14 PM PDT by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: FairOpinion
"unacceptable and not a solution."
The solution is absolute border control.

That fact that FOX, and Mexico, is not acknowledging this fact simply shows that my tagline applies. Hello La Raza.
5 posted on 05/14/2005 10:30:48 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: FairOpinion

Mexico: Your border is Illegal


6 posted on 05/14/2005 10:31:08 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon
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To: FairOpinion

This is the rough draft of a letter I'm going to send to Presidente Fox [translation follows]. Any suggestions?



Querido Señor Fox,

No nos digas cómo conducir nuestro propio país, Vicente. Los Estados Unidos de América nos pertenece a nosotros, no pertenece a ti ni a tus Mejicanos pobres que mandas aquí.

Ellos no son "trabajadores sin documentos." Son ILEGALES. Son invasores. Han violado nuestra frontera sin permiso, y están viviendo y trabajando aquí ILEGALMENTE. Si quieren vivir y trabajar aquí, deben solicitar permiso por medio del proceso LEGAL de inmigración. Somos una nación de leyes, y los ilegales no respetan a nuestras leyes. No merecen quedarse aquí.

¿Qué me pasaría si yo entrara a Méjico sin permiso, y si yo tomo un trabajo que "no hará ningún mejicano"? Claro. Me echarán en la cárcel.

Vicente, tu eres un sin vergüenza y un enemigo de los Estados Unidos de América. Estamos viviendo en una época de guerra, y tú te atreves decir que no tenemos el derecho, como un país soberano, de defender nuestra frontera? Idiota.

Sinceramente,

Los CIUDADANOS de los Estados Unidos de America

[For the hard-of-Spanish]:

Dear Mr. Fox,

Don't tell us how to run our country, Vince. The US of A belongs to us, not to you or to the poor Mexicans you send here.

They are not "undocumented workers." They are ILLEGALS. They are invaders. They have violated our borders without permission, and are living and working here ILLEGALLY. If they want to live and work here, they must request permission through the LEGAL process of immigration. We are a country of laws, and the illegals do not respect our laws. They do not deserve to stay here.

What would happen to me if I entered Mexico without permission, and I took a job that "no Mexican would do"? Of course. I'd be thrown in jail.

Vincent, you are a shameless enemy of the United States of America. We are living in a time of war, and you dare to say that as a soverign nation we do not have the right to defend our borders? Idiot.

Sincerely,

The CITIZENS of the United States of America


7 posted on 05/14/2005 10:32:18 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Somos un país soberano en una época de guerra. ¿Por qué no podemos defender nuestra frontera?)
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To: digitalbrownshirt

LOL Your front yard must have been better than his own!
I wouldn't like someone's kid playing in my yard either, it's a liability and your not the babysitter, sounds like the parents wanted to spoil their little prince.


8 posted on 05/14/2005 10:33:20 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: FairOpinion

Robert Frost, idolized by the Left, said it best: "Good fences make good neighbors."


9 posted on 05/14/2005 10:34:36 PM PDT by Ingtar (Understanding is a three-edged sword : your side, my side, and the truth in between ." -- Kosh)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Great letter.

You also have a great home page!

Those SS graphs are excellent and so are the quotes.


10 posted on 05/14/2005 10:36:24 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion


The United States needs to send the Mexican Government a bill for every penny we pay on citizens of MEXICO!!


11 posted on 05/14/2005 10:40:44 PM PDT by msnimje
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To: FairOpinion
but a second and more substantial layer of barriers that was built behind the first one that is incomplete and, among other things, does not stretch out into the Pacific."

Put that puppy out into rough water in the Pacific lest they try swimming or boating around it.

12 posted on 05/14/2005 10:41:53 PM PDT by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: FairOpinion

Hey El Predidente, look on the bright side. It will probably be citizens of Mexico building the wall and getting paid in US dollars, NOT PESOS.


13 posted on 05/14/2005 10:43:27 PM PDT by msnimje
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To: Choose Ye This Day

EXCELENTE


14 posted on 05/14/2005 10:45:26 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

is México not Méjico. aside of that you are totally right chente fax should be blackmailing the congress to get those economical reforms aproved instead of sending people to other countries.


15 posted on 05/14/2005 10:46:59 PM PDT by MSM
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To: MSM

You're right. I'm using the old spelling, I guess. It used to be commonly spelled with a "j".


16 posted on 05/14/2005 10:50:07 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Somos un país soberano en una época de guerra. ¿Por qué no podemos defender nuestra frontera?)
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To: FairOpinion

Thank you kindly. I aim to please!


17 posted on 05/14/2005 10:51:05 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Somos un país soberano en una época de guerra. ¿Por qué no podemos defender nuestra frontera?)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Absolute genius!


18 posted on 05/14/2005 10:52:34 PM PDT by CSM79
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To: MSM

BTW, (trivia question):

What is the FULL name of the country of Mexico?


19 posted on 05/14/2005 10:53:14 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Somos un país soberano en una época de guerra. ¿Por qué no podemos defender nuestra frontera?)
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To: CSM79

I'll bet you say that to ALL the FReepers!


20 posted on 05/14/2005 10:54:29 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Somos un país soberano en una época de guerra. ¿Por qué no podemos defender nuestra frontera?)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Great letter.

Vicente Fox has had this attitude ever since he took office. He's grousing because the U.S. has the nerve to take action trying to prevent all of Vicente's criminals from locating to the U.S.

We have enough of our own homegrown scum, Vicente. We don't need to import any more from you.

21 posted on 05/14/2005 11:00:28 PM PDT by Allegra (Look Out, Green Zone....Here I Come.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Ok, what is it?


22 posted on 05/14/2005 11:00:58 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: FairOpinion

Like the Democrats these people should just shut up and they may have a chance to win. But they are to stupid to do it. I am glad they do not get it.


23 posted on 05/14/2005 11:04:54 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: television is just wrong
The United Mexican States

Really!

Here's how Presidente Fox signs his web page:

Vicente Fox Quesada
Presidente de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos

They're much like the United States, apparently, only they're Mexican. I think I heard once that Panama's full name is also the United States of Panama.

24 posted on 05/14/2005 11:06:14 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Somos un país soberano en una época de guerra. ¿Por qué no podemos defender nuestra frontera?)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Nope, I take that back. I just checked. It's the Republic of Panama.
25 posted on 05/14/2005 11:09:32 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Somos un país soberano en una época de guerra. ¿Por qué no podemos defender nuestra frontera?)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Good letter. Where are you going to send it to? Is there an e-mail to send something like this to?


26 posted on 05/15/2005 12:08:06 AM PDT by David1
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To: David1

I bet if mexico let us build a few refineries down there and give jobs to tens of thousands of Mexicans, Fox might reconsider.

However for absence of that, we should TAX all money that leaves the US for Mexico. Set up some of those western union shops in all major cities and have the illegals send money to their kin back home through that.


27 posted on 05/15/2005 12:58:41 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Cool.

Petition to secure our borders

28 posted on 05/15/2005 2:45:03 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport them all; let Fox sort them out.)
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To: digitalbrownshirt
I used to have a neighbor that got mad at me for not letting his kids play in my front yard. I told him what Bush should tell Fox.

My Dobermans would love to play with someone who violated the sanctity of their front yard.

29 posted on 05/15/2005 2:51:32 AM PDT by jslade ("If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.")
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


30 posted on 05/15/2005 12:41:39 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Mention that if Vicente Fox spent half as much trying to fix his own country instead of demanding freebies from us, Mexico would be a better place to live and his citizens wouldn't be leaving in droves. "Vicente, help your poor -- don't export them."

Also ask Vicente why he doesn't let people from Guatemala pour into his country if he has such a beef about our border control. We're only doing what he does to Guatemalans.

31 posted on 05/15/2005 1:56:17 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Find out the TRUTH about the Chicago Democrat Machine's "Best Friend" in the GOP - www.NOLaHood.com)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


32 posted on 05/15/2005 2:41:56 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: FairOpinion
Mexican Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez said Thursday that Fox had instructed him to send the diplomatic letter with the message that the wall's construction was "unacceptable and not a solution."

Talk about bull-on-steroids pair of huevos.

Sorry Luis Ernie D, tell your boss it is the only solution.

Deal with it.

33 posted on 05/15/2005 3:35:02 PM PDT by kstewskis
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To: FairOpinion

Vincente Fox is not a Fox, he is a RAT! I would spit tobacco juice on this ratbastard just like our friend Mr. Smith did to Jane Fonda.


34 posted on 05/15/2005 3:48:08 PM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida
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To: David1

See my tagline!


35 posted on 05/15/2005 3:49:04 PM PDT by monkeywrench (http://ciudadano.presidencia.gob.mx/peticion/peticion.htm -Tell Vicente)
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To: JarheadFromFlorida
Hmm, Mexican protest letter on one hand, the Koran on the other.

So much buttwipe, so little time...

36 posted on 05/15/2005 4:06:14 PM PDT by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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To: FairOpinion
"Mexico will send a diplomatic letter to the United States protesting the extension of a wall along the U.S.-California border, officials said Friday.

Someone please get the return address,
I've got some comments for anyone protesting our self defense.

37 posted on 05/15/2005 6:21:15 PM PDT by norton (build a wall and post the rules at the gate)
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To: FairOpinion

I guess Genrmany threatened France in 1939 because France put of the Maginot Line?


38 posted on 05/15/2005 7:23:23 PM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: FairOpinion
Mexican Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez said Thursday that Fox had instructed him to send the diplomatic letter with the message that the wall's construction was "unacceptable and not a solution."

"We hope it doesn't make things worse than they already are, which is the obvious anger that building walls is not the way to resolve things along the border," Derbez said.

Sorry about the new laws. Mr. Derbez. Please send my  regards  to Vicente.

39 posted on 05/15/2005 7:35:25 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: FairOpinion

"Dear Senor Fox,

I have taken your communication under advisement and thoughtfully reviewed the same, extending it all due serious consideration.

Upon reflection, it is my sincere belief that you are out of your #$$%@$%%& mind. I fully hope to extend the wall along our entire southern border and repatriate the criminal inflitrators you have so ill-advisedly encouraged to violate my nation's borders.

Further, I expect you to return into U.S. custody each and every low-life renagade who has taken the life of an American citizen while having violated our borders.

Finally, I am sending the "Republic" of Mexico a bill to cover expenses incurred for housing Mexican criminals, constructing said wall, providing medical treatment to Mexican nationals, and to cover the costs of increased border security due to the actions and inactions of your government.

I fully anticipate you will be willing to consider my requests with all due seriousness and render the requested services and payment. Failure on your part to do so will necessitate the United States of America resuming that little mattter we mutually entered into back in 1846.

Have a great day.

Su amigo, Senior President Bush"


I would like to see Bush send the above message to Fox.

Think he might consider it??


40 posted on 05/15/2005 7:38:00 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
What is the FULL name of the country of Mexico?

From where I sit, it's known as El Pais de los Pendejos.

41 posted on 05/15/2005 7:47:49 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: ZULU

You should add:

"P.S. As an incentive bonus, we will donate runaway bride Jennifer Wilbanks to the Hispanic man of your choice."


42 posted on 05/18/2005 1:01:30 PM PDT by Cecily
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