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Baldwin Park public artwork angers group opposed to illegal immigration
sacbee ^ | 5-15-05

Posted on 05/15/2005 9:02:34 AM PDT by LouAvul

BALDWIN PARK, Calif. (AP) - A 12-year-old piece of public art has sparked a protest by a group that opposes illegal immigration.

The 20-foot-high arch has inscriptions that read, "It was better before they came" and "This land was Mexican once, was Indian always and is, and will be again."

It has angered members of Save Our State, a 7-month-old organization based in Ventura, which organized a protest Saturday that gained attention when it was announced on a local radio station.

"I find it incredibly offensive," said Joseph Turner, the group's executive director. He said the quotation "is seditious in nature. It essentially talks about returning this land to Mexico."

Turner said he wants the offending quotations removed before the Fourth of July.

The artwork, called "Danza Indigenas," was created by artist Judy Baca and commissioned by the city.

She said the structure is a "layered history piece" that honors American Indians, immigrants and others who have lived over the centuries on the land now known as Baldwin Park.

Baca said that Save Our State's complaint over one of the quotes was misguided.

"It was better before they came" was uttered by someone Baca described as "a white man from Arkansas, a civic leader" who was complaining about the arrival of Mexican Americans after World War II.

"When it went on the arch, its ambiguity became profound," she said. "The 'they' could be any 'they.'"

The protest turned into a heated two-hour rally with protesters on both sides taunting each other and arguing face-to-face before police arrived.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; art; baldwinpark; baldwinparkrally; culture; dynamiteplease; immigrantlist; judybaca; mexifornia; saveourstate
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To: HangFire

I'm wondering if the person is a freeper or not.


22 posted on 05/15/2005 10:51:48 AM PDT by Rabid Dog (Make a difference in your community - Join your local Free Republic Chapter!)
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To: occutegirl; Brad's Gramma

Thanks!


23 posted on 05/15/2005 10:53:30 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: occutegirl
Thanks for the ping, OCG. I am outraged that all of you were actually exposed to violence by those ignorant thugs.

Americans have the RIGHT to protest the Mexicanization of America. People in some other states just don't realize the actual numbers here in California, they don't realize that it's going to happen in their states too.

I hope the lady who was hit by the bottle thrown at her head will be OK! All of you are heroes in my book.

24 posted on 05/15/2005 10:55:01 AM PDT by janetgreen (Minuteman Project = American Patriotism)
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To: Rabid Dog

Funny how the police always have their backs toward the people carrying the American flags...


25 posted on 05/15/2005 10:56:48 AM PDT by HangFire (I'm only wearing black until they come up with something darker...)
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To: LouAvul; NormsRevenge; kellynla; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; Boot Hill; tubebender; ...
Thanks for posting this.

Gonna be a long HOT summer down here........

26 posted on 05/15/2005 10:59:18 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: The100thMonkey

I was trying to find that sign, can you point it out.


27 posted on 05/15/2005 11:01:59 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

2nd picture down, under the traffic signal


28 posted on 05/15/2005 11:06:10 AM PDT by occutegirl (George III did not like Minutemen either.)
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To: occutegirl; Dog Gone
Thanks, now I see it......

Dog gone....they are saying bad things about the Alamo!

29 posted on 05/15/2005 11:08:41 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: LouAvul
I don't think anyone has to worry about this one, unless someone spray-paints "Somos Los Reconquistadores" onto the arch.

Petition to secure our borders

30 posted on 05/15/2005 11:13:34 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport them all; let Fox sort them out.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

31 posted on 05/15/2005 11:27:30 AM PDT by occutegirl (George III did not like Minutemen either.)
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To: occutegirl; Dog Gone; NormsRevenge; kellynla; Brad's Gramma

Even better....is that a young girl holding the sign?


32 posted on 05/15/2005 11:35:29 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

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33 posted on 05/15/2005 11:40:42 AM PDT by occutegirl (George III did not like Minutemen either.)
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To: occutegirl

thanks for the report, occutegirl ... and thanks to the eyewitness ... our people were brave to be there ... I believe this is now officially a war. We are not the ones who started it, but we must fight it.

We smoked out the other side in their true colors... the colors of the mexican flag they wave, not a U.S. flag among them .. their signs, their behavior ... even liberal media could not disguise what thugs they are ... one guy with a bandana over his face, a la the Chiapas revolutionaries ...

The good news is we can all take further action on this. I am posting a separate related topic and I will ping you all to it.


34 posted on 05/15/2005 11:42:13 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Truth is a rare commodity. Seek it, know it and cherish it.)
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To: occutegirl

Hopefully, your eyewitness can update us on the condition of the woman hit with the water bottle.


35 posted on 05/15/2005 11:43:41 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Truth is a rare commodity. Seek it, know it and cherish it.)
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To: Eaker; humblegunner

Disturbing.

Coming soon to a city near us.


36 posted on 05/15/2005 12:04:13 PM PDT by Flyer (I've seen your king come and go here)
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To: HangFire; occutegirl
Funny how the police always have their backs toward the people carrying the American flags...

That says it all!

Great work as always, Occutegirl. Watcherbutt out there.

37 posted on 05/15/2005 12:06:10 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: sgtbono2002
Somehow I think this is a group of White people protesting. Nobody cares about White people being offended. White people are like the Republican party we dont stick together and vote in blocs , so nobody gives a damn what we think or what offends us. If we started sticking together they would call us Klansmen. As a matter of fact I am surprised these folks havent been called that yet.

Not only that, but almost everything in US immigration law is totally against families of citizens, in favor of permanent residents, illegal immigrants, and others. Citizens get the shaft.
38 posted on 05/15/2005 12:08:27 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: LouAvul

BTTT for a buddy of mine...


39 posted on 05/15/2005 12:15:35 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: LowOiL

Bookmark for CC...


40 posted on 05/15/2005 12:17:09 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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