Posted on 05/15/2005 2:13:51 PM PDT by wagglebee
A mounting number of aides, advisors and fundraisers for New York Sen. Hillary Clinton have faced criminal prosecution in recent months, conjuring up memories of her ethically challenged past just as Democrats begin to focus on the former first lady as their probable 2008 presidential nominee.
Though press coverage of the trial of Sen. Clinton's finance director, David Rosen, was sparse last week, the case has brought attention to the prosecutions of at least three more Clinton fundraisers.
And that's on top of the plea bargain reached with the Justice Department in March by a senior foreign policy advisor to the former first lady.
Five members of Mrs. Clinton's inner circle now face indictment, trial or have pled guilty to an array or crimes, with the news of the prosecutorial deluge emerging in just the last few months.
* David Rosen, who served as Mrs. Clinton's finance director, is currently on trial in Los Angeles on charges that he cooked the books for her 2000 Senate campaign. If convicted on the three counts of fraud cited in his indictment, Rosen faces 15 years in jail and/or $250,000 in fines.
* James Levin, who was a top fundraiser for Mr. and Mrs. Clinton and served as the White House liaison for other fundraisers during Mrs. Clinton's 2000 Senate race, revealed on Thursday that he was cooperating with prosecutors in Rosen's case after being accused of defrauding the Chicago public school system.
* Raymond Reggie, who helped raise $100,000 for Mrs. Clinton 2000 Senate campaign, was indicted in April on bank fraud and conspiracy charges. In exchange for leniency, Reggie agreed to tape record Clinton campaign insiders about illicit fundraising activities. He faces up to five years in jail and fines.
* Aaron Tonken, who helped organize several fundraisers for Mrs. Clinton that collected over $1.5 million, agreed in 2002 to cooperate with the FBI investigation into Mrs. Clinton's campaign.
A close friend of Mrs. Clinton who lavished gifts on her aides and visited the White House seven times in 2000 alone; Mr. Tonken's is currently serving a 63 month jail sentence. The Justice Department has yet to release other details of his plea arrangement.
* Sandy Berger, who served as Mr. Clinton's national security advisor and who continues to advise Mrs. Clinton, pled guilty in April to the theft and destruction of top secret documents related to the 9/11 Commission investigation. Because of the political sensitivity of Berger's crime, he was let off with a $10,000 fine and a three-year suspension of his security clearance.
As recently as February, Berger was advising Mrs. Clinton, with the New York Times revealing that he helped her prepare an address to a national security conference in Germany.
Since taking office, Sen. Clinton's star had been on the rise, with Democrats encouraged over polls suggesting she had shed her reputation for ethical controversy. But the renewed swirl of scandal, punctuated by one indictment after another, "has some top party bosses feeling nervous," the U.K. Observer reported on Sunday.
"This sort of thing just serves to remind people of the Nineties scandals like Whitewater and the Monica Lewinsky affair," University of California political scientist Shaun Bowler told the paper.
Bowler added, "Some Democrats have short memories - but I don't think that a lot of American voters do."
The press is pretending it's not even happening.
Laws, rules, morals, ethics, etc. are for OTHER people and NOT the royal clintoons
Well, according to the judge and DA in the case in California, Hillary has absolutely NO connection to this!!!
But, her HUSBAND, may be called as a witness---
What a complete farce this is----
One way for the whole mess to go away is to do the usual clintoon thing; permanently eliminate all that's involved.
Does it bother anybody(MSM) that the woman who wasn't aware, and doesn't know what's going on in her inner circle, is being touted for president?
FMCDH(BITS)
I wonder if some of these "Aides' realize their predecessors had a habit of disappearing ?
The lucky ones get prison cells, the others get taken on a ride to Fort Marcy Park or something similar.
| Well, according to the judge and DA in the case in California, Hillary has absolutely NO connection to this!!!
Would you expect the prosecutor in United States v Rosen to open his case by telling the jury that somebody else did it? What the judge said is that "Mrs. Clinton will not be called to testify in the case." That would be because neither the prosecutor nor the defense counsel plans to call her. It is not because the judge has an opinion on whether there might someday be a case called United States v Clinton. I wish people would stop acting as if they think Hillary Clinton is supposed to be found guilty in David Rosen's trial. That only happens on TV. In the real world, the only person who can be found guilty in David Rosen's trial is David Rosen. Please await the start of Paul v Clintons, coming soon to a different Los Angeles courtroom, where Hillary Clinton (and Bill too) will be "Defendant." |
"People are known by the company they keep"
Some get both, like Jim McDougal.
Didn't one of them commit suicide by beheading himself?!!
I am sorry---I was led to believe that the judge said more than just that she wouldn't be called to testify--or maybe I read what DFU has been posting and Hannity has been saying.
Do you know why Bill Clinton could be called as a witness?
Maybe. Mr. and Mrs. Harry Houdini Clinton haven't had to answere for a thing in their whole lives. It's true there is a first for everything. But I doubt this is it. Civil suits are easily settled or dismissed.
Maybe. Mr. and Mrs. Harry Houdini Clinton haven't had to answere for a thing in their whole lives. It's true there is a first for everything. But I doubt this is it. Civil suits are easily settled or dismissed.
Bill was at the event, after all. He might know something of value other than breast size of the female guests.
And where does the rotten trail lead, I wonder?
Dean screams that DeLay should be in jail?
| Civil suits are easily settled or dismissed.
The Plaintiff, Peter Paul, has already pledged any monies recovered to a non-profit. So he has no incentive to settle. And besides, money is not what this is about. |
The Life and Crimes of the Clintons. Hillary has no chance of becoming president.
She will do anything it takes, legal or illegal, to get elected.
| Do you know why Bill Clinton could be called as a witness?
Come with me now to Fantasyland. They play the Reggie tape in which Rosen is heard saying that "the President" called him practically every other day. The lawyer asks Rosen on the stand what they talked about. Rosen burns Bill. He says that Bill gave him instructions on how to bury the expenses so as to maximize the 'hard money' take from the event. If the jury believes this, they are now sympathetic to Rosen, and see him as a fall guy. Rosen has also "cleared" Hillary to the extent that he can. This is David Kendall at his best. Would Bill take the rap for Hillary? He doesn't have to. He gets on the stand and says, "Shucks, we just talked about women." Everybody suspects Bill is lying, but the damage has been done. So Rosen walks, Hillary is cleared by Rosen, and Bill is still that lovable rogue. I don't expect expect good news from this Rosen trial. If there's any good news to be had, it will come out of the civil suit coming from Peter Paul and USJF. In that one, they both will be called to testify, and there are some Interesting Documents for them to answer questions about. |
Levin was Bill's go between with Paul. Correct?
Paul wanted Bill's help with Stan Lee Productions, or whatever they called it.
Supposedly Bill was going to work with Paul and they had reached an agreement on an amount (multi millions) according to Paul.
Question. Who was encouraging Paul to donate to Hills campaign as a way to gain further inroads to finalize a deal with Bill? Levin? Rosen? Both?
Tangled web. That's for sure.
Sure, whatever. These people worked for Hitlery, a known control freak, and she is not connected to it. I bet she was as shocked by these discoveries as she was about her husband's sex scandals.
I find it odd that I hadn't heard anything about Stan Lee since I was a kid reading comic books...
Now in the space of one week, I have read his name in relationship to this case, and the other day Fox News had him on one of those "Brady Bunch panels", discussing a couple of different subjects....neither one of which were this case... makes me go hmmmmmmmmmm...
lol
Levin
Lee didn't invest much in this "Bill's Leaving, Hill's Dreaming of New York" fundraiser. That's what I've read.
Tangent: I have Amazing Spider Man from about 50 to 100. Should I burn them now???
OT. Somebody did a nice pic of the Hulk regarding the fillibusters. Let me see if I can find the link for you. It's funny.
FWIW, I read somewhere on here that Stan Lee married into Marvel Comics, and though he has taken much of the credit, did not create them.
Maybe he's related to Ward Churchill. :-)
A more relevant question is, "When is the U. S. Justice Department going to get it?"
Or, better yet, WILL the United States Justice Department get it?
I bet not!!!
Ted Kennedy offered Hillery a ride in his new car last week but she refused.
You've clearly been following this story. Also, from your posts I've run into over the years, I have you pegged as one of the more rational members of this group.
So what's your prediction? What level of damage will the Paul trial do to the Clintons in general and Hillary's Presidential ambitions in particular?
"One way for the whole mess to go away is to do the usual clintoon thing; permanently eliminate all that's involved."
I'm not sure Hillary is doing the mass murder bit, now that she is (at least temporarily) out of the White House. Not as much cover at the moment.
Bump for later read.
* Sandy Berger, who served as Mr. Clinton's national security advisor and who continues to advise Mrs. Clinton, pled guilty in April to the theft and destruction of top secret documents related to the 9/11 Commission investigation. Because of the political sensitivity of Berger's crime, he was let off with a $10,000 fine and a three-year suspension of his security clearance.>>>>>>>>>>>
This is rather sickening. But the big question is, exactly who is protected because of the 'political sensitivity' to this crime, besides Mr. Burgler? (yeah I have a good idea) The burgler should never, ever have access to any gov. documents again, expecially top secret ones.
Where is the rule of law when our top officials evidently use that law to protect their own 'peers'.
Hillary is protected by the mass media and the leftist culture that dominates America. She cannot be touched. Move on.
Pray for W and Our Troops
If you lie down with dogs you get fleas. These guys certainly picked up fleas from the Clintoons!
Hillarys campaign for a seat in the US Senate is fraught with innuendo of wrong doing, some of it provable yet the ex-first womans finger prints are no where to be found she like Big Foot, alludes capture or even proof that she is anything more than an over hyperbolized myth. The real danger is that the woman she shows the world is not the woman she is nor is she capable of governing this nation beyond dictating to it. Worst yet, should she re-gain the White House, she would be bringing with her the most disreputable, low-life, dishonored and disgraced president in history. I would bet some 75% of Americans never want this rapist, perjuring, sociopath ever to sit in the Oval Office, back in the Peoples House ever again. The only way Hillary R. Clinton could win the Presidency is by FRAUD, something she is well acquainted with.
They never will. Every allegation is just another "attack" which brings the "victim" sympathy from the left.
The higher taxes, the harmful social policies, the weak defense posture, and the constant whiff of scandal. Please tell me we won't ever have to relive that!!!
Laws, rules, morals, ethics, etc. are for OTHER people and NOT the royal clintoons...
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True it is -- the good ole liberal double standard.
If the public lets Hitlery get away with this crime, they deserve what they might get. Another criminal, Marxist, sociopathic, unprincipled, radical leftist, tax-crazy President....didn't THE LEFT learn on the first one? Most likely not.
The Clintons sound like Gangsters. Is this organized crime?
The Clintons sound like Gangsters. Is this organized crime?
bump...just to keep the story in front of as many people as possible.
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