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Two birds…one stone - (set up Marine recruiters on southern border; turn illegals into fighters!)
THE AMERICAN THINKER.COM ^ | MAY 15, 2005 | RUSS VAUGHN, 101st & 82 Airborne (Ret)

Posted on 05/15/2005 2:50:09 PM PDT by CHARLITE

While driving through El Paso recently, I heard a caller to a talk-radio program laughingly suggest that we should embed Army recruiters within the frontline ranks of the Border Patrol so that they could sign up illegal immigrants and thus eliminate the Army’s current recruiting deficits. I laughed, as did the host of the show, and said to my wife, “Hey, that’s not a bad idea.” As I continued driving eastward across the desert expanse of West Texas, I began to think more seriously about what the ramifications of such a policy might be. When we went through the Border Patrol checkpoint near Sierra Blanca, I told my wife, “You know, that fellow was joking but in fact, he may truly be onto something.”

Think about it, folks. We have a serious illegal immigration problem on our southern border. We also have a problem recruiting troops for the combat arms sectors in our military, all while we have this steady flow of stalwart young men sneaking into our country seeking a better way of life. From the benefit of six years active duty in the 101st and 82d Airborne Divisions, I know that Hispanics volunteer in disproportionate numbers for hazardous duty such as jumping out of airplanes and special operations. American Hispanics have a long and honorable tradition of serving in the Marine Corps with multiple generations having been Leathernecks. These volunteers have a warrior instinct that serves our nation well, as exemplified by Special Forces Medal of Honor winner, Roy Benavides, a native of my own South Texas.

So why don’t we put this warrior ethic to work for us? Let’s follow the jesting suggestion of the caller to the radio show and put some our sharpest, most impressive, Hispanic Army and Marine Corps non-coms in Border Patrol stations to interview physically fit illegal immigrants picked up by Border Patrol agents. Let those hapless young illegals see what determined Hispanic men can become in this country. Screen them thoroughly and offer the best of them an opportunity to become United States citizens by serving a four-year enlistment in Army or Marine Corps combat arms organizations. For you civilians not conversant in military terms, that means putting them in those units at the point of America’s military spear, where the fighting and the dying are done. Why combat arms units? Because no one who has stood shoulder-to-shoulder with a fellow soldier or marine under fire will ever have a greater appreciation for what this country is, what it stands for and the opportunities it offers.

How do we do it? Create two special training facilities, one at Fort Bliss in far West Texas, and the other at Camp Pendleton on the west Coast, where we put these volunteers through a four-week crash course of English with an emphasis on Army or Marine Corps terminology. Then, put them through an eight to twelve-week, basic training course to teach them fundamental military skills, conducted by bilingual non-coms, all the while, further honing their English language skills. Upon graduation from basic training, they should possess sufficient English to be able to take advanced specialty training with their American counterparts and then go on to assignments in combat arms units around the world. Perhaps we could even establish a buddy system wherein serving American Hispanic troops could volunteer to mentor these alien volunteers until they are fully assimilated.

And what’s in it for the illegals? How about a good paying, full-benefits job, which is what they come here seeking but seldom ever find. How about a job that teaches them responsibility and gives them skills usable as productive American citizens following their military service? The modern military is very supportive of those wishing to continue their education. Could we not ensure that these young soldiers obtain the equivalent of a high school GED during their enlistments so that they would be discharged back into civilian life with at least a basic education? Would not such men be able to contribute more to the economy of this nation than they do now as illiterate, minimum wage laborers, themselves and their families a drain our already insufficient health care infrastructure?

Nay Sayers may argue these young men would be foreign mercenaries; I would counter that objection by saying that yes we are paying them to fight, but the coin of the realm is not just American dollars but dignity and honor, and a future to which they would not otherwise aspire. Offer them the opportunity to serve honorably as warriors and defenders of the nation they seek to inhabit instead of commending them to an unending future of degrading, undignified, menial labor. Oh, yes, and let us not forget citizenship, hard earned, legitimate citizenship in the nation they have served. Give them two years in the military to prove themselves worthy and then grant them full citizenship. Now they are no longer illegals; they have a vested interest in the nation’s wellbeing because they have served this country, defended this country as warriors, and it is now their country to cherish and maintain.

Think about it, folks. If you agree this concept has merit, copy this piece and send it to your representatives in Congress.

Russ Vaughn is the Poet Laureate of The American Thinker.

Comments: lkv@direcway.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; california; illegal; immigrants; marine; marines; mexico; recruiting; texas; usmc
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1 posted on 05/15/2005 2:50:10 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE
Something to Consider
2 posted on 05/15/2005 2:51:55 PM PDT by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: Nam Vet; ThreePuttinDude; Beth528; Billthedrill; HonestConservative; SMARTY; ...

FYI - Ping!


3 posted on 05/15/2005 2:52:48 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing.)
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To: CHARLITE

No Thanks!


4 posted on 05/15/2005 2:53:15 PM PDT by Modok
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To: CHARLITE
While we're at it, why don't we encourage Eurabia to allow poor immigrants from South America instead of Muslims. The Western world needs to contain the threat of Islam just as we did communism...Let them implode under their own corruption.
6 posted on 05/15/2005 2:55:21 PM PDT by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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The Romans did this with my own ancestors back in the day.

It didn't work out so well. For the Romans.

You can't buy safety through employing as your protectors those who already wish to take what you have. We don't solve the problem of robbery by employing robbers to guard our homes.
7 posted on 05/15/2005 2:55:48 PM PDT by Eeper
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To: Eeper
"You can't buy safety through employing as your protectors those who already wish to take what you have."

I don't agree. We have been doing it for decades with peoples from our protectorates like the Philippines. I used to train those troops. They want what we have and they are willing to fight for it and their citizenship. I can't say that about everyone but I can say that about some. It is something to consider.

8 posted on 05/15/2005 2:59:23 PM PDT by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: soros_sucks
"INS should arrest them all - stick their sneaking illegal butts in prison for border violations - and let them make license plates for the US for a few months before being ejected back into the 3rd world country to our south"

Worth a repeat. Your comments are soooooo good.

I know, its old already, but what part of the word ILLEGAL don't they understand? They are ILLEGAL aliens. They broke the law to get into our country and we want them in our Army? Come in legally and I will say WELCOME. Let them get in line like every other legal immigrant did.

9 posted on 05/15/2005 3:02:11 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: Eeper; CHARLITE

I got a better idea ... why not let those courageous ILLEGALS buy guns and ammo up here where our government isn't quite so afraid of an armed populace, and send them back to the land they truly love and fight to pry the heal of tyranny off the neck of their own fellow countrymen, instead of sneaking up here to steal off of the stupid gringo.


10 posted on 05/15/2005 3:03:58 PM PDT by CIBvet (Thanks to those headed to protect the AZ border .... REAL Patriots.)
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I don't agree. We have been doing it for decades with peoples from our protectorates like the Philippines.

The obvious difference I see is that we don't share an open border with the Philippines as we do with Mexico. Why risk your neck when you can just walk across? Those who do volunteer for the military seem to be sincere in their convictions (whether it's love of our country or a frank desire for citizenship, they're willing to do their bit), but I don't believe we should make the recruitment of illegal aliens a goal of our armed services.

I know you disagree, but I honestly hope we never have to find out how it would work out. History has strong lessons to teach as regards this sort of thing.
11 posted on 05/15/2005 3:04:37 PM PDT by Eeper
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To: Cornpone

Those guys go bak to Luzon or Mindinao, not Texas.

Bad Comparison.


12 posted on 05/15/2005 3:09:45 PM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: CHARLITE

I'm not a historian but wasn't it possible to gain Roman citizenship by serving as a legionaire? Didn't whole regiments of non-native legionaires eventually threaten Rome and hasten it's destruction?


13 posted on 05/15/2005 3:10:55 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: RaceBannon; Eeper

The Roman Empire lasted for over a thousand years. It could never have been created, existed or sustained had it not recruited the peoples it conquered or who wanted the privilege of Roman citizenship...and they had to serve over 20 years in a Legion to gain it. Rome did not collapse because of aliens incorporated into its military. It collapsed because of a perversion of its leadership and will and the abandonment of its republican values.


14 posted on 05/15/2005 3:14:45 PM PDT by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: muir_redwoods
The Romans always had foreign auxiliary, cavalry and light infantry mostly.

By the early fifth century the legions were almost entirely German with politically appointed Roman officers who didn't trust their troops. When the Goths came the legions melted.

There is a good argument that Rome actually fell because of illegal immigration. I'd hate to see us go the same way.
15 posted on 05/15/2005 3:18:44 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (San Francisco - See It Before God Smites It.)
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To: CHARLITE
Already being attempted:

Recruiting Slips with Foreign Nationals

16 posted on 05/15/2005 3:18:45 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: CHARLITE

This has got to be the dumbest gddamn idea I have ever heard of. Anyone who thinks that sticking no English speaking, uneducated peons into a combat unit has never been in combat. Lock em up and then deport them.


17 posted on 05/15/2005 3:19:26 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Cornpone
Rome did not collapse because of aliens incorporated into its military.

I'm far from a scholar of the Classical (Mediterranean) world, but when a Germanic chieftain conquers Rome after several generations of Rome employing those same Germanic peoples as a pivotal part of their military in that part of the world, something in my head says it might have gone a bit differently had the Romans not chosen such a solution to their recruitment woes...
18 posted on 05/15/2005 3:19:46 PM PDT by Eeper
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To: CHARLITE
Statement: "Two birds…one stone - (set up Marine recruiters on southern border; turn illegals into fighters!)"

Response: That is what the Romans did with the Germanic peoples. The end!

19 posted on 05/15/2005 3:24:22 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Cornpone
It collapsed because of a perversion of its leadership and will and the abandonment of its republican values.

It collapsed because the Germans and Vandals overran it and the Goths sacked it, then the Greeks invaded it.

The leadership had been perverse since at least Tiberius/Caligula/Nero - 400 years before the collapse.

20 posted on 05/15/2005 3:24:29 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (San Francisco - See It Before God Smites It.)
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