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Md. cardinal to boycott Giuliani speech (Life issue)
AP ^ | 5-18-05

Posted on 05/18/2005 9:33:07 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan

Md. cardinal to boycott Giuliani speech
5/18/2005, 11:11 p.m. ET
The Associated Press

BALTIMORE (AP) — Cardinal William Keeler will not attend a Jesuit university commencement because keynote speaker Rudolph Giuliani, a Catholic, supports abortion rights, an official said Wednesday.

Giuliani, the Republican former New York City mayor mentioned as a possible candidate for president in 2008, is expected to award some 1,600 degrees and certificates at Friday's commencement at Loyola College of Maryland.

He also is to receive an honorary degree.

Friday's graduating class entered the school one week before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, said Loyola spokesman Mark Kelly.

"The attacks had a huge effect on this class, many of whom are from New York," Kelly said late Wednesday. "The college selected Mayor Giuliani because of his courage and leadership after the attacks."

Kelly added Loyola does not agree with every position held by every speaker.

Keeler could not be reached for comment Wednesday night. His spokesman did not elaborate on the decision, but confirmed it was because of Giuliani's abortion stance.

The Cardinal Newman Society is planning protests, the group said in a statement.

The society is protesting speakers and honorees at 18 Catholic college and universities, saying the invitations violate the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops statement last year asserting "Catholic institutions should not honor those who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles."

Earlier this week, New York Rep. Sherwood Boehlert, also a Catholic, canceled his speech to graduates of St. Elizabeth's College of Nursing after learning a bishop opposed his appearance. Boehlert said he did not want to draw attention from the graduation ceremony.

A spokeswoman for Giuliani did not immediately return phone calls.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: abortion; cary; catholicschools; commencement; guliani; keeler; life; rudy
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To: BlackElk; Petronski; cyborg

Cardinal William Henry Keeler (photo 2004), 71, archbishop of Baltimore. Keeler was born in San Antonio, Texas, and raised in Lebanon, Pennsylvania. He was ordained in 1955 and was assigned to the diocese of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. He was named bishop of Harrisburg in 1983 and held the position until 1989, when he was appointed archbishop of Baltimore. He was the president of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops from 1992-95. He was named cardinal in 1994.

61 posted on 05/18/2005 11:28:37 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: staytrue

OK


62 posted on 05/18/2005 11:29:12 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (America is gradually becoming the Godless,out-of-control golden-calf scene,in "The Ten Commandments")
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To: onyx; cyborg; St. Johann Tetzel

A-ha! His Eminence is a Pennsylvania boy, eh?


I've heard those Pennsylvania boys are especially good.


63 posted on 05/18/2005 11:30:07 PM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: Torie

Only we'd have national health care and Gosh knows what else, right now. Super-majorities might be appropriate for certain legislation; you know, protecting minority rights and severe changes in "course", and what have you. But my guess is that will be history if this waiver passes... . C'est le vie!


64 posted on 05/18/2005 11:30:21 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Petronski


Yep, but born in Texas...lol.


65 posted on 05/18/2005 11:30:56 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Nonstatist

National health care was not stopped by filibuster. But it is coming sooner or later. The economic imperatives demand it. It will have to be rationed, and the way to do that "cosmetically" is with socialized medicine. Modern cutting edge medicine is simply too damned expensive.


66 posted on 05/18/2005 11:33:47 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: Torie; Petronski; ninenot; sittnick; HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Torie: Gee, I make it a policy never to miss an opportunity to miss you. Regrettably, you seldom give me the opportunity to miss you, much less to miss you permanently which would be, as they say, very heaven.

If you have clients, does that mean you are lawyer? One more reason to be glad am continuing to recover.

Those who imagine that they are descended from apes....probably are so descended without affecting the ancestry of those of us who are descended only from people by the grace and action of God and His purposes. Don't bother to dissect the logic. I am partially Irish and we never allow mere facts to get in the way of a good story.

Maybe people who think they will return to dust and to dust only will do so but they probably won't be quite that lucky and that IS a fact.

67 posted on 05/18/2005 11:34:40 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk


I have noted at least three lawyers on this thread...lol.
I am much too kind to 'out' em with a ping. :)


68 posted on 05/18/2005 11:37:53 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: BlackElk

That post of yours reminds me of Askel5. LOL. I assume you are not praying that I have a fatal auto accident or something sometime soon.


69 posted on 05/18/2005 11:37:59 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: BlackElk
I believe the SJ secondary school in Maryland is still all boys. The girls high school Keyes called attention to on WBAL, I think, I have heard about but forget the name. Curiously enough, Malachi Martin was asked about this on a radio talkshow some years back (1990s) in an interview. He seemed pretty well-informed about local Catholic matters in Maryland. Rather impressive. The Wanderer crowd has amazing intel sometimes.

It will be interesting to hear if Keeler has any other sudden revelations of orthodox fortitude infusing him with other outbursts of the Catholic faith. I can only guess that Ratzinger's charisma at the JP II funeral and conclave became contagious or something. Maybe Keeler underwent hypnosis and remedial Catholic programming. [irony] Isn't he getting close to retirement age? Talk about eleventh-hour conversions!

70 posted on 05/18/2005 11:39:23 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: onyx
I am much too kind to 'out' em with a ping. :)

I'm a lawyer--not bragging (unfortunately not yet recovering either).

71 posted on 05/18/2005 11:41:25 PM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: Torie; sittnick; ninenot; cyborg; sinkspur; HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity; Petronski
Bless me, father for I have sinned. It has been (none of Torie's cotton pickin' bidness how long) since my last confession. I accuse myself of: agreeing with Torie's #55 on this thread......

For your penance, my son, be mildly but not too nice to sinkspur on one occasion in the next year and say Kumbaya to him as though you mean it. Try to find an occasion when he seems somewhat Catholic.

[Insert Act of Contrition and penance which is also no one's bidness] Fr. Ninenot can add: No Buddy Holly music for the Elk for thirty days after being nice to sinkspur.

72 posted on 05/18/2005 11:42:00 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Torie
I assume you are not praying that I have a fatal auto accident or something sometime soon.

My my, what a vicious motive to ascribe to him.

Pathetic.

73 posted on 05/18/2005 11:42:31 PM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Giuliani is a great guy in many ways, but 750k dead in America a year due to abortion is a little bit of hell-on-earth.
It is good the Church is getting serious about this, cracking down on homosexual pedophiles that made it into the church and battling humanism.

The Church is doing better now what Christ established it to be.
I am happy so far with the new Pope.


74 posted on 05/18/2005 11:42:57 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Petronski


Yes dear, you are one of 'em on this thread. :)


75 posted on 05/18/2005 11:43:36 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Petronski

Prayers for your speedy recovery in prosperity, counselor.


76 posted on 05/18/2005 11:43:58 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Petronski

And here I thought you had already gone to bed.


77 posted on 05/18/2005 11:44:46 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Could be that Keeler has contracted a terminal cancer and is trying to make up for his career.


78 posted on 05/18/2005 11:45:59 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Torie

OMG! The mention of her screen name and I had to look!
Whooooooooops, she's either on a time out or zot.

http://www.freerepublic.com/~askel5/in-forum


79 posted on 05/18/2005 11:46:45 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: BlackElk
A more devious thought - Benedict ordered him not to attend. And threatened to cut off five-star dining privileges in the papal dining room during residency in Vatican City unless he agreed.
80 posted on 05/18/2005 11:46:52 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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