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Can China Defeat the United States in a Conventional War?
May 20, 2005 | comtedemaistre

Posted on 05/20/2005 8:09:59 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre

Every day, the economic power and political influence of Red China continues to increase. I am, however, interested in knowing how powerful China is militarily. Is China strong enough to defeat the US in a conventional war? The latest I heard is that they have a total of 10 million trained to serve in their military, including reserves. I would especially like to hear from Freeper veterans as well as those serving in the military, on the potential threat that China poses to the United States.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: army; china; chinesemilitary; economy; geopolitics; missiles; technology; war
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If China was to seize Taiwan, does the US have the capability, as well as the will, to liberate the territory?
1 posted on 05/20/2005 8:10:00 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre
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To: ComtedeMaistre

No...

No Blood for Semiconductors will be the chant of the left...


2 posted on 05/20/2005 8:11:23 AM PDT by misterrob
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Nope


3 posted on 05/20/2005 8:11:48 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
My "Nope" was to this question:

Can China Defeat the United States in a Conventional War?

4 posted on 05/20/2005 8:12:34 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

It's all about kill ratio.


5 posted on 05/20/2005 8:12:51 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: ComtedeMaistre

They can't invade the US and hope to win.

But to declare war on them if they take Taiwan is an other story - I would like to hear about that, too.


6 posted on 05/20/2005 8:13:05 AM PDT by Double_in_a_bight (mussi denn mussi denn zum Städele hinaus - Städele hinaus ...)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Why would we want to fight them?


7 posted on 05/20/2005 8:13:27 AM PDT by Pondman88
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To: ComtedeMaistre

On whose turf?

Theirs or ours?


8 posted on 05/20/2005 8:14:44 AM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: misterrob

"No Blood for Semiconductors will be the chant of the left.."



No, it'd be "No Blood for WalMart"


9 posted on 05/20/2005 8:14:58 AM PDT by Blzbba (Let them hate us as long as they fear us - Caligula)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
capability: yes, no doubt about it

the will: well, let the msm churn into overdrive and then the answer is a big, fat, ted-kennedy-socialist, NO!

10 posted on 05/20/2005 8:15:12 AM PDT by NoClones
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To: ComtedeMaistre

If an actual full blown war to be declared by both sides, the US could defeat China without sending a single troop. We can destroy them at the push of a button in a matter of minutes. They do not have the ability to do that to us.


11 posted on 05/20/2005 8:15:19 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: misterrob
Who said it would be a Conventional War? China has plans to fight a non conventional war with America. My opinion is that some of the current issues facing America are due to China's efforts to disrupt this nation.
12 posted on 05/20/2005 8:16:12 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Phantom Lord
If an actual full blown war to be declared by both sides, the US could defeat China without sending a single troop. We can destroy them at the push of a button in a matter of minutes.

They do not have the ability to do that to us.

Yet...

13 posted on 05/20/2005 8:17:08 AM PDT by Fedupwithit (Democrats are just whistling past the graveyard...soon enough they will be occupants)
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To: ComtedeMaistre; Jeff Head; Travis McGee
Thoughts re "conventional" war???

FGS

14 posted on 05/20/2005 8:18:01 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

A conventional war? Who would buy the Chinese crap then?


15 posted on 05/20/2005 8:18:14 AM PDT by OpusatFR (I live in a swamp and reuse, recycle, refurbish, grow my own, ride a bike and vote gop)
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I heard the Chinese have a secret plan to place urine in a popular brand of soft drinks favored by Americans.
16 posted on 05/20/2005 8:18:31 AM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Is there such a thing as a "conventional" war? All is love and fair in war, I thought.


17 posted on 05/20/2005 8:18:43 AM PDT by dit_xi
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To: ComtedeMaistre

We fought China in Vietnam by proxy and together with the leftists present on our own turf assisting in the communist cause, the U.S. was unable to finish the job. You have to remember, the Chinese leaders place little value on human life and they have many lives to donate to what would likely be a very protracted engagement. It is for certain, the U.S. would have to have a draft to sustain the effort and the MILITARY leaders would have to be the directors of the war, not the stinking LEFT-WING POLITICIANS.


18 posted on 05/20/2005 8:19:49 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Conservatism: doing what is right instead of what is easy)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Of course China could defeat us in a conventional war. Let's not be so patriotic that we don't consider reality. How large is China's population and how much of that are they willing to use for cannon fodder? They could just overrun us with people and increasingly we are dependent on China and other foreign countries for materials. Globalization is a very bad foreign policy, with possibly dire long term consequences for the US as a sovereign nation. You can't fight a war with Big Macs.

Don't forget, we sent them a lot of technology during the Clinton admin and we are continuing to do business with them and bolster their economy and ability to do war against us. We might be able to beat them in a nuclear war, of course - but the poster is talking about a conventional war.

I don't believe we will end up in an actual shooting war - China may simply be able to defeat us economically especially as we ship more and more of our basic industrial functions over seas. If it comes to a showdown over Taiwan, I'm afraid we will fold. Too many heavy duty corporate economic interests in China - that's such an enormous market and far too many corporate types have a loyalty to a market share rather than to their country.


19 posted on 05/20/2005 8:20:43 AM PDT by blueblazes
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To: ComtedeMaistre

I doubt that we could effectively liberate Taiwan if China were to seize it.

I think if China were to seize Tiawan they would put soldiers on the island in nearly a 1:1 ratio with the Tiawanese population. If they were to succeed or get close to that our only option would be a drawn out blockade operation that would undoubtedly kill most of the Tiawanese population if not all of them.

That wouldn't be a viable option for us, so in essence we would do nothing. The only way we can win is to prevent the Chinese seizing Taiwan in the first place. You can always count on our treasonous media to make it look like we started the fight, so the will just won't be there.

In summary, Taiwan is screwed the minute that China makes the decision to take it.


20 posted on 05/20/2005 8:20:49 AM PDT by American_Centurion
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