"Strange that not more women hate men" (Swedish government cooperating with militant feminists)

Aftonbladet ^ | May 21, 2005 | Petter Sunsted

[Eurotwit]

These controversial words were written by former minister for equality in a coloumn in the feminist magazine WomenPressure (Kvinnotryck). "I suppose it can be provoking, particular if you are a man", she states.

Margareta Winberg: I am no man hater

The government has a close cooperation with extreme feminists who consider that "men are animals"

This is revealed in Swedish Televisions documentary, "Sex War".

The documentary which is being aired this Sunday shows a strong connection between the governments sex equality policies and the national feminist organisation, Roks.

In Roks' magazine WomenPressure, the former equality minister Margareta Winberg writes in a coloumn:

- Sometimes I am baffled that not more women really hate men.

What do you mean by that?

- When you look around the world to see how women are treated, you can start wondering why women still have patience with men, says Margareta Winberg.

Militant feminism

How do you think such a statement will be received?

- Yes, it can be provoking, particularly for men. I pursue this thought in my coloumn. But, I do not belong in the groups who are manhaters. I just want to emphasize that.

Who would you say belong to that group?

- You should not ask me that. I do not belong to such a group, and I know noone who hates men.

Roks, however, is an organisation that praises militant feminism according to the documentary. Through proffessional lobbying activities in parliament they with the help of Margareta Winberg managed to transform the extreme feminisms' ideas into reality.

- That fraction within Roks who are radical, and which by some are considered to be extreme, is not part of government policy, says Margareta Winberg.

Roks last year, received 11.7 million kroner in government support, and organises two/thirds of the womens organisations in Sweden.

"Men are animals"

In 2006 the womens organisations are going to share 100 million kroner according to an agreement between the social democrat government, the Green party and the left party.

In Roks magazine, the extreme feminists Valeria Solana is hailed in a recent review.

She writes in her manifesto: "To call a man an animal is to flatter him: He is a machine, a walking dildo, a biological mishap."

In the documentary, the chairman (chairwoman, I guess I should say before I get sued: translator note) Irene von Wachenfelt is asked whether she agrees with Solana.

- Yes, men are animals. Don't you agree? says Ireen von Wachenfeldt to the reporter.

When Aftonbladet asks von Wachenfeldt what she means by that, she answers:

- I personally don't considers men animals, but according to Solana I can understand why many women feel that way

[Eurotwit]

My translation.

Uffda.

Sweden is even worse off than I thought. Truly a basketcase.

Sweden, the favourite case study of the progressives, should be interesting to observe in the years ahead.

Extreme feminism, extreme PC'nes, extreme multiculturalism, progressive utopia, all played out in that little laboratory that is my neighboring country.

It's kind of sad to see Sweden go over the cliff, but it will perhaps play a good part in dispelling the false religion of progressive politics.

Cheers.

[Eurotwit]

Sweden ping.

[dob]

Well, there is hope - that the state broadcaster saw it fit to do a hit job on these nutsos should count for something.

[Tabi Katz]

No, Ms. Winberg. Women do not hate men. Feminists do.

[Eurotwit]

I agree. That was a bit surprising...

I am starting to see a flicker of debate emerging, on issues that have long been supressed.

[NZerFromHK]

I always thought the Scandinavian and Nordic nations are pretty much the same. So how different is each nation in terms of leftist dagma in politics?

(It must also be of note that this country, New Zealand, has been frequently described as "Sweden of the South Pacific". The 1980s no-nukes Labour Party Prime Minister, David Lange, openly admired the then Swedish counterparts, Palme. And the current PM Dear Helen openly uses Sweden as the model for NZ to emulate. Surveys after surveys indicate sheeples aka New Zealanders want NZ to be like Sweden or Finland)

Ping!

[ScaniaBoy]

Hej!

Check out this blog: http://moderskeppet.blogspot.com

and when you are at it also this one:

http://gennser.blogspot.com

[Eurotwit]

Thanks for the links.

Perhaps the emergence of internet and blogging etc, will eventually force through a real debate about what is going on...

Cheers.

[Lazamataz]

"Strange that not more women hate men"

They don't because of that big bulge in our trousers.

Our wallets.

[MaxMax]

Was Church-Hill a Fag? or a Cig?

[Eurotwit]

I don't have time for a long answer at the moment, but in range of wackyness IMHO:

Denmark - Norway - Sweden

I'll leave with an article from the Copenhagen Post about Sweden and Denmark's working habits:

Swedes and Danes are different animals

"Danes:

Hold short breaks by themselves
Bring the coffee to the telephone when it rings during the break
Bring lunch from home
Sometimes skip the lunch break
Smoke wherever they are after lunch
Can stay home with a sick child for one day
Keep their private lives to themselves
Frequently confront each other

Swedes:

Sit together on long breaks
Hold their breaks without taking the telephone
Eat warm canteen lunch or go to a restaurant
Find it strange when colleagues skip lunch breaks
Would never smoke indoors
Stay at home with sick children until they are well
Discuss private lives at work
Treat their colleagues politely and calmly "

http://www.cphpost.dk/get/88092.html

Scaniaboy? Any thoughts?

[Xenophon450]

"Men are animals" And women are no less??? Both have there faults and many being the same, Both give into there urges that make us Animals, These extreme Feminists Are animals because they give into there baser urges such as that to hate which is obviously simpler than to forgive or dare even say Love.

[Xenophon450]

Sorry scania boy..that wasnt to you im a bit tired and messing up all over the place

[shteebo]

["Sometimes I am baffled that not more women really hate men."]

..So she's admitting that the observed facts do not match what is predicted by her ideology. Now, a rational person might consider reviewing the ideology, but noooo, in standard liberal fashion she will simply ignore the baffling facts and continue preaching the same shtick.

Facts are not the friends of liberals. They do not seriously discuss them. They instead assure each other constantly how their views are correct by "common sense". As the errors compound they inevitably drift further and further from reality, and yet are more and more certain they are right because "everyone I know agrees with me".

[kb2614]

" "To call a man an animal is to flatter him: He is a machine, a walking dildo, a biological mishap." "

LOL

WOW, I bet she'd be a fun date! :-)

I do suspect that most men wouldn't mind being treated like "a walking dildo".

LOL

[frankiep]

These controversial words were written by former minister for equality

The fact that Sweden feels it necessary to have a Minister of Equality tells me all I need to know about this liberal mecca

And speaking of mecca, how can these feminist dingbats in the West say with a straight face that men are animals, yet not say a word about the treatment of women at the hands of men under the rules of the religion of peace?

[CasearianDaoist]

They alos hat women. And adults.

[goldstategop]

Imagine the reaction among women if the statement was made by a man and the gender described was reverse. There would rightly be outrage and the guy would be reviled as an idiot if not worse. As a man, I'm very deeply affronted to have my humanity denied by feminazis. Hate of decent people is never a good thing coming from any one or no matter the justification for the outburst.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[sgtbono2002]

If men are walking Dildo's then women are merely sprem receptacles. Hell: I can get nasty too.

Men who have gotten the dirty end of the stick by women are just as plentiful as women who have gotten a raw deal.

[Maceman]

[muir_redwoods]

Leonardo daVinci

Isaac Newton

Beethoven

Shakespeare

Einstein

Mozart

Bach

Homer

Dante

Any feminist who wants to post a list of COMPARABLE women is welcomed to try but I could write a much longer list.

And please don't bore me with a list of men like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot etc. That's not relevant

[Kozak]

Freud was on the money.....

[Tabi Katz]

And speaking of mecca, how can these feminist dingbats in the West say with a straight face that men are animals, yet not say a word about the treatment of women at the hands of men under the rules of the religion of peace?

I was wondering the same thing. Today's feminist is more concerned with shaking her finger at women who choose to stay home and have babies or throwing hissy fits over some sexual comment in the workplace than standing up for the women of the world who truly are oppressed at the hands of the sick creed known as fundamentalist Islam. If American women have it so bad, why don't they just ship off to Saudi Arabia?

[Nick Danger]

I'm very deeply affronted to have my humanity denied by feminazis.

I'm not. I expect it from them — they're nuts. What deeply affronts me is the silence of womankind while this goes on in their name.

I'm old enough that I couldn't care less what a bunch of dried-up old lesbians think of men. But I have to wonder what the effect is on little kids, and boys in particular, of seeing this stuff presented affirmatively in the media. It must look to them like something that adult society approves of, because otherwise why is it all over the television, in the movies, on the radio, and everywhere else?

Men who complain about this are roasted even on conservative news forums. It will only be when women Get Loud about saying "not in our name" that it will stop.

[Jaysun]

Shut up toots.

[Route101]

Strange that more militant feminists are not married.....

[rbg81]

And speaking of mecca, how can these feminist dingbats in the West say with a straight face that men are animals, yet not say a word about the treatment of women at the hands of men under the rules of the religion of peace?

Easy--because they know they can get away with it. In the Muslim world, they'd get 100 lashes instead of favorable press coverage. Throw in a hatred of Western Civilization and a perception that only white men can be racist or feminist oppressors and you have the answer to the rest of the puzzle. If Sweden (and the rest of Europe) eventually become Islamic states, you'll never hear a peep out of these feminists again.

[Charles Henrickson]

Ping to the Swedish Ping List.

[Xenophon450]

I dont know They might revere men like Stalin...

[Cogadh na Sith]

To call a man an animal is to flatter him: He is a machine, a walking dildo, a biological mishap."

She left one out: "Who invented, created and built everything I have ever seen and everything I will ever see...."

Stupid t$#% doesn't even understand that we built a comfy world for her to criticize us in.

[Cogadh na Sith]

men like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot etc. That's not relevant

It is relevant--without a Hitler or Pol Pot, there is no Dante or Mozart....

There are as few female composers or inventors as female serial killers. There is a connection there.

[NYpeanut]

How 'bout bill clinton? is that relevant? who gets to says what's relevant, anyhow?

[Mr. Jeeves]

- When you look around the world to see how women are treated, you can start wondering why women still have patience with men, says Margareta Winberg.

You can start with the men in your own government, who are allowing a classic culture of mistreating women to immigrate from the Middle East, establish itself in Sweden, and virtually exempt itself from Swedish law.

[DarkSavant]

Schopenhauer's Essay on Women

*snip*The nobler and more perfect a thing is, the later and slower is it in reaching maturity. Man reaches the maturity of his reasoning and mental faculties scarcely before he is eight-and-twenty; woman when she is eighteen; but hers is reason of very narrow limitations. This is why women remain children all their lives, for they always see only what is near at hand, cling to the present, take the appearance of a thing for reality, and prefer trifling matters to the most important. It is by virtue of man’s reasoning powers that he does not live in the present only, like the brute, but observes and ponders over the past and future; and from this spring discretion, care, and that anxiety which we so frequently notice in people. The advantages, as well as the disadvantages, that this entails, make woman, in consequence of her weaker reasoning powers, less of a partaker in them. Moreover, she is intellectually short-sighted, for although her intuitive understanding quickly perceives what is near to her, on the other hand her circle of vision is limited and does not embrace anything that is remote; hence everything that is absent or past, or in the future, affects women in a less degree than men. This is why they have greater inclination for extravagance, which sometimes borders on madness. Women in their hearts think that men are intended to earn money so that they may spend it, if possible during their husband’s lifetime, but at any rate after his death.*snip*

Fight fire with fire :)

[NYpeanut]

Schopenhauer had plenty of time to write nasty things about women, since he couldn't get anyone to marry him (never even had a date, poor thing). Or maybe he never had a date because he wrote nasty things about women? That's a question for another, less lonely, less gloomy philosopher. I bet there's one here.

These girls vs. boys threads never come to any good.

[anguish]

I saw this documentary (the first part, waiting impatiently for the 2nd) together with my father. We were flabbergasted, and sat through the whole documentary with our mouths half-open, staring at the TV. These nut-case militant feminists were actually convinced that men regulary came together in satanist groups to rape women and sacrifice babies.

Where I live, the local chapters (who provide safe-houses for abused women and children) of the organisation the documentary was about are now considering splitting off. Seeing how nutty the feminist elite is has probably been a real eye-opener.

anguish - proud member of Antifeministiska Samfundet (The Antifeminist Association)

[mabelkitty]

Can we please use the correct labels here?
They aren't feminists.
They are obviously lesbians.

[MonroeDNA]

Your post brought real clarity to my mind. That essay was a long read, but explained much. Very much.

I saved it, bookmarked it, to reveiw again and again.

Explains why "Bad Guys" get all the women, while "Nice Guys lose out." Explains why whe know women lie a lot, but guys can almost never win. Or if we do win, we pay in spades.

You just brought clarity to a confused guy, and I thank you for your post. The essay makes great sense.

Enough for several new topics.

[muir_redwoods]

"How 'bout bill clinton? is that relevant? who gets to says what's relevant, anyhow?"

I do. Thanks for asking. : )

[DemWatch]

Men who complain about this are roasted even on conservative news forums

True. You don't even have to look further than this very thread.

[okie01]

In 2006 the womens organisations are going to share 100 million kroner according to an agreement between the social democrat government, the Green party and the left party.

100 million kroner for the lesbians?

What is the Minister of Equality's appropriation for the heterosexuals?

[Bernard]

...national feminist organisation, Roks...

Whoever came up with that name for the organization must have worked at Ford when they came up with a name for a car they wanted to market to women - The Probe.

[DemWatch]

Schopenhauer had plenty of time to write nasty things about women, since he couldn't get anyone to marry him (never even had a date, poor thing). Or maybe he never had a date because he wrote nasty things about women? That's a question for another, less lonely, less gloomy philosopher. I bet there's one here.

Nothing but ad hominem attacks. How pathetic.

These girls vs. boys threads never come to any good.

Then why are you taking part in one?

[NYpeanut]

You're a friend of Schopenhauer? I hear he had a poodle named "Mommy."

[GoLightly]

When you look around the world to see how women are treated, you can start wondering why women still have patience with men, says Margareta Winberg.

If she's talking about the cultures that begin by thinking that taking care of the womenfolk begins by keeping them out of sight & controlled, I can't say I disagree with her. If she's talking about men in general, she's off the mark.

She writes in her manifesto: "To call a man an animal is to flatter him: He is a machine, a walking dildo, a biological mishap."

She is a bigot & anyone who takes her seriously is either a fool or bigot too.

- Yes, men are animals. Don't you agree? says Ireen von Wachenfeldt to the reporter.

Bigot too.

[GoLightly]

It's kind of sad to see Sweden go over the cliff, but it will perhaps play a good part in dispelling the false religion of progressive politics.

Don't count on it. From my observation, "progressives" always seem to think that failure derives from having spent an insufficient amount of money pushing for more of their brand of stupidity. They are incapable of second guessing their original premise.

[Billthedrill]

Many thanks for the translation.

Yes, men are animals. Don't you agree? says Ireen von Wachenfeldt to the reporter.

We're all animals, dear, men and women alike. Some of us deal with it better than others, that's all.

[aquila48]

...minister for equality...

This says it all! I cannot conceive of a more miserable place than one where equality was truly enforced!!

[bannie]

(shakes her had over this...)

WHAT IS FRIGGIN' WRONG WITH THE DIFFERENCES???

EMBRACE THEM!!!

(nice pun, self)