Posted on 05/21/2005 10:42:38 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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Here's the list of the first 1000 Horwitz's that subscribed to Josh's anti-gun philosophies.
It is Josh's disgrace that he again promotes the national socialist statist philosophies upon the unwitting public.
It's an absolute disgrace that national Rabinical counsels are members of this organization.
Thank you.
I think you and I are talking apples and oranges here. I'm not arguing Koresh and Weaver as individuals, nor am I appointing them champions of a cause.
The author of the article said: "...they had no right to use private arsenals to keep the police at bay." This to me implies that the author's credo is that we all just need to go with the flow no matter the accusation and take our chances with the courts - and that's fine as long as the courts are still fair and honest.
I'm of the belief that if we can make sure checks and balances apply to public opinion as well, we won't have to find ourselves in a spot where we're even considering the whole "vote from the rooftops" scenario, and so far it appears that conservative-type thinking has found a media voice. But, the 2nd Amendment provides a very-last-resort insurance policy that is unique to this country, and I'd hate to see that taken out of the people's hands.
Congratulations for finding this article and posting it. There are times we can only know how really vile the libs and gun grabbers are by seeing the drivel they regurgitate as a substitute for thinking, let alone rational thinking.
That's cold an inhuman. What about the ALLEGED criminals rights? I mean if he threatened you, thats far less than you killing him. So he takes some of your belongings. Does that give you the right to take his life?
Oh yeah (SARCASM OFF)
Wow that sucks. Trying to FEEL like a lib HURTS
A LOT
Hey, they saw that it worked with the Pew Foundation and CFR, so why not continue with a winning strategy?
Mark
Despite the fact that this has yet to happen, and that, so for, ALL the leftist's "predictions" have been WRONG, why do we believe them now? To me, whenever a leftist proposes something, either DO the opposite, or have the confidence to know that you are right....
errr....huh? What?
Would 5 or 6 bong hits make the point of this paragraph intelligible?
And, IIRC, at the time, given those bogus charges, the federal government was outside their authority in going after Koresh for those charges.
While I'm 100% for the swift conviction and harsh punnishment of child molesters, it was just a smoke screen for what the feds were doing there. To paraphrase a quote from the Viet-Nam era, "they had to kill the children to save them"
Mark
Why.?.
To preserve target practice and hunting.?..
The 2nd amendment was to make revolution LEGAL, not to insure hunting and target practice rights..
Who in America would ENACT the 2nd amendment for its intended purpose.?.
Not many, I think.. Would screw up the football season and positively cancel Oprah and Dr. Phil.. not to speak of Jerry Springer.. when MsM TV stations were ugh dealt with..
The Courts do rely on a Private force that is armed, they are called the Police... If you disobey a court order the armed force will come and make sure you comply! Sometimes by busting in your door with Guns Drawn...The court used thier Armed force to return Elian Gonzalez to Cuba.
I would like to know if you sent that to him?
If not it needs to be.
Why is it that the gun fascists never point out that the NRA is supported by millions of Americans? No anti-gun group has even half the numbers of the NRA. What the gun grabbers want is to go against the will of the people.
The gun Nazis never mention that in the history of the world, gun control has resulted in about 100 millions deaths. People killed at the hands of their own government, in supposedly legal fashion.
Also the gun Nazis fail to point out that crime goes down in states that have lax gun laws, and that crime goes up in countries like England and Australia that have very strict gun laws. But then again when has any liberal ever carried about the facts?
Contact:
The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
1023 15th Street, N.W., Suite 600
Washington, DC 20005
Tel: 202-408-0061
Fax: 202-544-7213
Url: http://www.csgv.org/
actually, they are right to assert that gun-culture threatens democracy.
democracy means majority-rule.
consider this three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
republicanism, made possible through an armed citizenry, is not democracy.
In the republican model, the heavily armed sheep can effectively disagree.
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