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Atheists say it's time to 'push back' fundamentalism
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 5/22/05 | Greg Sandoval - AP

Posted on 05/22/2005 6:53:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge

While I freely admit that I have become quite disabused of the notion of an omniscient being and a grace through faith I just can't see myself mustering a band of devotees to crusade against the absurd and then expect those to whom I target my rage to respect and accept my new-found wisdom.


21 posted on 05/22/2005 7:17:31 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Avenger

Here's a radical thought. Instead of federal judges decreeing from the bench, why don't we let local communities decide the level of religious expression they want in their public venue. So if D.C. wants their schools completely secular, they can make that decision and if Macon, Georgia wants their schools to include Christian prayer at all school events, they can make that decision, and not have to worry about 9 men in black robes in D.C. telling them they can't.


22 posted on 05/22/2005 7:18:31 PM PDT by frgoff
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To: k2blader

Careful. A large enough cadre of FReepers consistently boo and hiss at "fundies" like Robertson and others like him.



Isn't Pat the one who claimed turn away a hurricane from the East coast using prayer? I used to watch him from time to time years ago. He seems like a nice enough guy but he is definitely something of a kook. In my opinion, anyone who is on good enough terms with God to get Him to turn away a hurricane for you personally is not going to be blabbing about it on television. God has a bit more class.


23 posted on 05/22/2005 7:18:44 PM PDT by Avenger
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To: NormsRevenge
Ali said he knows all too well the effects of religious fundamentalism

Earth to Ali! Earth to Ali! Christian fundamentalists do not blow themselves up or swear killing those of opposing view. Muslim fundamentalists do. There are no similarities between the two groups!

24 posted on 05/22/2005 7:19:01 PM PDT by Former Fetus (fetuses are 100% pro-life, they just don't vote yet!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Thank God I'm an atheist...


25 posted on 05/22/2005 7:19:09 PM PDT by rudy45
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To: NormsRevenge
Atheists say it's time to 'push back' fundamentalism

Fundamentalists say it's time to 'pray' for atheists.

I know which one I want for a neighbor.
26 posted on 05/22/2005 7:19:45 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Children's classic songs updated for Islam "If you're happy and you know it, Go Kaboom!")
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To: Avenger

I knew one of you would show up sooner than not.


27 posted on 05/22/2005 7:19:47 PM PDT by k2blader ("A kingdom of conscience ... That is what lies at the end of Crusade.")
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To: k2blader

Glad to oblige. Now, was it Pat who claimed to turn the hurricane away? Doesn't that strike you as a bit kooky?


28 posted on 05/22/2005 7:22:50 PM PDT by Avenger
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To: Avenger

"For some science is a religion, for some sex is."

I think you might need to check out the definition of the word "religion". Really liking something does not make that something a religion, no matter how "religiously" that something is pursued.


30 posted on 05/22/2005 7:25:05 PM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: BigFinn

It couldn't be that Islam isn't the dominant religion here, and they dislike what they know best? I'm sure they would hate Islam as well if they knew it better.


31 posted on 05/22/2005 7:25:06 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: Darkwolf

I respect your beliefs and thank you for your post--

I think this group, just like the activist gay groups that are always talking about American intolerance are the ones that are intolerant...

I live in about as Middle America as you can get--and I don't think any one I know would care if a person was gay, atheist or agnostic....wouldn't even ask, for that matter.


But, we don't want to be "challenged" into an argument over their "rights" when we haven't ever "looked" for the fight to begin with...


32 posted on 05/22/2005 7:25:34 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: NormsRevenge

The trick here is recognizing atheists don't even begin to have a clue as to what Christianity is all about. The perception they have of religion and supernatural belief is all they identify as being a system of thinking equivalent to their own worldly system of thought.

Even if they wanted to eliminate Christianity, they would never succeed because the mind of Christ through faith in Him is eternal.


33 posted on 05/22/2005 7:27:33 PM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: NormsRevenge

Boohoo. "Theocrats" scare them.

Godless secular humanists scare me. Too bad we fundamentalists are gaining ground on them.

BTW, atheism is a religion. It is faith in oneself. Mr/Ms atheist, you are too small and too stupid to be God, so sit down and shut up.


34 posted on 05/22/2005 7:29:30 PM PDT by msf92497 (My brain is "twitchy")
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To: NormsRevenge

Kind of ironic, really. Atheism is a religious doctrine that by its very nature can never advance from the fundamental tenet that there is no God. The real "fundamentalists" were sitting right there in that, er, "congregation."


35 posted on 05/22/2005 7:30:25 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: DeepRed
Atheism is the root of all Liberalism.

Yeah sure, FDR, JFK & LBJ were all well known Atheist

People who beleive in a God would not support killing babies

I hate to be the one to break it to you but most people who are pro-choice as well as most of the people who have had abortions  in this country are in fact Christians.

No surprise since the Bible is definately not Pro-life

Hosea

13:16 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

and supporting communists.

Tell that to the South American Leftist

36 posted on 05/22/2005 7:33:24 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: DeepRed
Atheism is the root of all Liberalism.

Going even deeper, narcissism is the fundamental seed of leftist thinking. A supreme being is serious competition. They can't handle that. George Soros, the money behind moveon.org, once admitted to a friend that he believes that he IS God.

37 posted on 05/22/2005 7:33:31 PM PDT by Reeses (The evil force behind leftism is vanity and its sister sin envy.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Robertson and other Theocrats scare the hell out of us," Fitzgerald said.

Interesting choice of words for an atheist.

38 posted on 05/22/2005 7:34:08 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: qam1

Pulling scripture out of context is lame. Why don't you explain why that was written. I won't do the work for you, so don't ask. I just want to see if there is any substance behind the post.

Waiting.


39 posted on 05/22/2005 7:35:56 PM PDT by msf92497 (My brain is "twitchy")
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To: NormsRevenge
"We don't hate Christians," said David Fitzgerald, 40, an insurance broker and member of San Francisco Atheists.

Liar.

40 posted on 05/22/2005 7:36:04 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Life's a beach - and Liberals are like the sand that gets in your swimsuit...)
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