Howard Dean reappears on national television (is using Terri Schiavo for political purposes)

Tallahassee Democrat ^ | May 22, 2005 | DICK POLMAN

[johnb838]

There are a lot of us lamenting the demise... I only made the break about 6 weeks ago, I've got a lot of catechism (candidate) in front of me before I can take communion in the Catholic church. But I'm pretty clear I'm not going back.

I love the Episcopal Church. I hate to leave, I'm a cradle Episcopalian. Baptized and confirmed. But I can't condone what they do and allow.

Some people love to laugh at it here, but the Catholics have plenty to lament as well. So do the evangelicals and the non-denoms.

[Earthdweller]

You go for it man. My brother is a devote Catholic and he loves it. He's the kind of guy that would give you the shirt off his back.

I try to tell him to keep some stuff for himself but he just looks at me like I'm nuts. I love him though. He's a good man.

[TheCrusader]

"I like Fr Pavone a lot. And when I have any doubts about my desire to join the Catholic church because the mass is too liberal,"

Since allowing the Mass to be said in the vernacular tongue, (beginning in 1963, and culminating in the 1969 "Novus Ordo" Mass), it's piety and reverence has been whittled away by the innovators and liberals. But the ancient, traditional Latin Tridentine Mass is alive and kicking, though now practically underground. A Google search will help you locate this Mass in your state. This is the Catholic Mass the Saints and our Catholic ancestors attended. (I believe there are one or more such Masses in every State).

In the 1980's Pope JPII granted an "indult", allowing the traditional Mass to be retained and requiring the American bishops to make it available to Catholics who desire it. But sadly, most bishops just ignored the Pope's request, and a great many Catholics aren't even aware of it.

Do a Google search with keywords like "Catholic indult Mass", or "Latin Tridentine Mass", and hopefully you will find one within driving distance. Good luck and God bless.

[johnb838]

Oh, I've got that covered. I'm singing in a choir at St. Annes in Houston and I think the way they do the mass is way too liberal - they use white wine for Pete's sake.

But I've started attending Tridentine Mass at 8:00 at Annunciation Church in Downtown Houston before going to St. Annes and it's remarkable. I adore it because it gives me that feeling of stepping out of time for an hour that I seek when I go to church. I've only been going there for a few weeks, but whatever it is they have, I want.

The ladies cover their heads with the lace mantilla. I was going casual, and then it occurred to me that my parents would NEVER have let me go to church like that when I was a kid so I've been wearing suit and tie since.

Thanks for the encouragement and God Bless.