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Fatal Crash Haunts Pal Who Gave Up Her Seat
New York Post ^ | 5/23/05 | Lorena Mongelli and Kate Sheehy

Posted on 05/23/2005 3:06:30 AM PDT by Conservatrix

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To: Moose4; Conservatrix

Moose4 gave some good advice. I think the best way to get over the fear is just to hop into a Cessna with an instructor on a calm day. The level of control that a pilot has over the plane is really amazing.

I used to be afraid of flying, but took a flight at my local airport for $60. Once up to 3000' or so, the instructor pulled the thottle to idle (simulating engine failure), set the pitch of the plane so that a constant, safe airspeed was maintained, then said "See all of those fields down there? You can land in any one of those with this plane". That went a long way towards calming my fears.

My point is, the things don't fall like rocks out of the sky. Usually, somebody gets distracted or doesn't follow a checklist for most of these accidents. When you take that first trip with an instructor, believe me, he/she'll make sure it's the smoothest, safest flight you ever took in your life. After all, they want you to come back for more lessons. :)


41 posted on 05/23/2005 5:00:26 AM PDT by Textide
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To: Conservatrix
"She feels guilty. Wouldn't you?"

No. Did she know of the plane crash before it happened? Did she force they other person into her seat?

Obviously "No" to both questions.

Guilt is a fact not a feeling. One is either guilty or not guilty.

One can be guilty and wrongly not feel any conviction. One can also be not guilty and wrongly feel some conviction.

Both extremes are equally repugnant.

42 posted on 05/23/2005 5:01:00 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (DOC - 81MM Mortars, Wpns CO. 2/3 KMCAS 86 - 89)
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To: Bear_Slayer
This young lady needs to read about Waylon Jennings and learn from what he went through.
43 posted on 05/23/2005 5:05:03 AM PDT by vetvetdoug (Shiloh, Corinth, Iuka, Brices Crossroads, Harrisburg, Britton Lane, Holly Springs, Hatchie Bridge,)
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To: vetvetdoug
This young lady needs to read about Waylon Jennings and learn from what he went through

I know who he is, but I'm at a loss regarding anything else. Can you elaborate or direct to more info?

Thanks.

44 posted on 05/23/2005 5:07:50 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (DOC - 81MM Mortars, Wpns CO. 2/3 KMCAS 86 - 89)
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To: defibrillator

You either have a serious problem with your graphic, or the post was intended to disrupt. Which is it?


45 posted on 05/23/2005 5:15:58 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Bear_Slayer

Waylon gave up his seat on the plane too. The guys who took the flight were Richie Valens, Buddy Holly, and The Big Bopper. Waylon made it to their deatination on the bus, the others didn't.


47 posted on 05/23/2005 5:19:25 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: leadpenny
Actually, that area has been dubbed the Socialist-Triangle.

It runs from Martha's Vineyard to Nantucket and then Hyannis... many strange occurrences have happened here.

48 posted on 05/23/2005 5:19:59 AM PDT by johnny7 (Ever wonder what's the 'crust' in 'Ol Crusty'?)
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To: defibrillator; Admin Moderator; All
I am not sure if everyone else is experiencing the problem with your graphic, so we will leave it up to the mods. I am on DSL and having a heck of a time with the slow load and garbled image.

I have noticed your signup date as well. New behaviour pattern for a troll...

49 posted on 05/23/2005 5:23:47 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I know the story, I never realized it was Jennings that gave up his seat.

I'll have to go back and read it again.

50 posted on 05/23/2005 5:25:52 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (DOC - 81MM Mortars, Wpns CO. 2/3 KMCAS 86 - 89)
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To: Smokin' Joe

He/She/It is posting this Pic on a lot of threads(The same exact one), and it's doing the same thing to everyones computer. The only way I am even able to check the thread is by turning off images. My guess is it's a Virus Hack.


51 posted on 05/23/2005 5:27:22 AM PDT by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: defibrillator

150,970,369 byte pic ??


52 posted on 05/23/2005 5:31:48 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: JustAnAmerican

It downloads and displays, it is a jpeg image

HYPER TEXT TRANSFER PROTOCOL

http://img175.echo.cx/img175/498/huge1ki.jpg is the URL

size: 1337 bytes, 12287 pixels X 12287 pixels

created 5/23/2005 (same as signup date)

file name is huge1ki.jpg


53 posted on 05/23/2005 5:34:48 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: SkyPilot
If you stall too close to the ground.....then bad things can happen.

Bad things man, bad things.

54 posted on 05/23/2005 5:35:59 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Smokin' Joe

Looks like the Admins removed him and it.


55 posted on 05/23/2005 5:37:55 AM PDT by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: Smokin' Joe; Admin Moderator

I've had to re-boot my 'puter twice this morning after going on this thread. Never had to do that before.


56 posted on 05/23/2005 5:39:02 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: johnny7

I used to fly out there often. Couldn't get over all the folks who took their Golden Labs on the local commuters that flew from Hyannis to Nantucket.


57 posted on 05/23/2005 5:41:27 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

It may have just overloaded your graphics, I don't know. I filed an abuse claim, not sure that was the correct protocol, but imho, this is a different type of troll from what I have seen before.


58 posted on 05/23/2005 5:42:12 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: JustAnAmerican; Petronski

it's probably the tubgirl poster.


59 posted on 05/23/2005 5:42:20 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: Conservatrix

Shades of Waylen Jennings!
(gave up his seat so the Big Bopper [who was to sick too ride the bus], Buddy Holly, and Richy Valence could go on "the day the music died".)

Time to reflect and dedicate ones life.


60 posted on 05/23/2005 5:45:33 AM PDT by G Larry (Promote Conservative Judges NOW!)
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