[strategofr]

"Frankly, I give up."

Good idea. If you are as weak as this post indicates, you should give up.

[rcocean]

Fine, you dummies can waste your time. I don't believe in Santa Claus. Vote your pocketbook not the social issues. Its a smokescreen.

The Rebpubs always have time to pass legislation to help big business but when it comes to social issues or immigration, there's always some "complex" problem that comes up.

Just accept the fact that Lucy isn't going to let you kick the football, and move on.