Posted on 05/25/2005 3:41:22 AM PDT by billorites
The ancient world is rife with stories of people chatting with gods and predicting the future (and having the prophesy come true). However, whereas you would dismiss such claims from another religion, you accept them in yours.
No. It is my position that when a man is condemned for his frontal attack on the Church, it should not be mis-interpreted as Church hatred for science. It was about politics, not science.
Shalom.
Such as there being no evidence in Egyptian writings that the Hebrews were ever enslaved, or that 10 plagues occurred?
The "sarcasm" tag got lost somehow. This is terrible news for the conservatives.
I responded to one such in post #97. It may be rare, but I don't spend much time on these threads.
Just off hand, I'd guess that your distaste for some particular thrust of rhetoric is probably not universally the same thing as "playing some vague debating game".
Good guess, but I'd have to disagree. I suppose you scored a point, though I don't really understand the rules.
Shalom.
Ping to self for later pingout.
One point the august author fails to mention is that there are many creationists who do not toe the standard "Biblical" line. Creationists or intelligent design people who recognize that the earth is millions of years old, but do not swallow Darwinist theory for a plethora of reasons.
Trying to promote evolution by dismantling "the earth is only 6,000 years old" and then patting oneself on the back is silliness.
"Forbidden Archeology - The Hidden History of the Human Race" by Michael Cremo is a good place to start.
Do you dispute the accuracy of Ichneumon's citations of the Galileo case in his #266? How do you not read that as a condemnation of science?
Why is it that believers almost always refer to "us" and "ours" instead of "me" and "mine"? Good evidence for some insecurity in their faith, I think.
Thank you Gummy. When you're around I know that I'll end a thread smiling.
That amounts to hatred of science.
You can't change that by focusing on Galileo's (correct and moral) defiance of church authority. Many other scientists of the day agreed with Galileo privately. Galileo was brave and honest putting his scientific opinion on paper. That's why everybody knows his name, nobody knows which of the corrupt midevil popes was on the other side.
Okay, so if speciation can be accomplished by nothing more than breeding, why can't it happen that way naturally?
It would cause unemployment among the angels, and their union won't allow it.
So you would agree that it's a crime (or at least misbehavior) to question church doctrine? Misbehavior punishable by imprisonment.
I'm wondering what the moral equivalence is between someone publishing a theory, and a church imprisoning a person for disagreeing with them.
How is this behaviour of the church different from the behavior of the Taliban?
<creationistLogic>All Marxists are atheists, therefore all atheists are Marxists</creationistLogic>
I don't care about the "total."
Of course you don't, because than you'd have to wrestle with the absurdity of this argument--you don't care to uncover this question because you know perfectly well that virtually all biologists are pursuaded by evolutionary theory. There is no vast controversy within the scientific community about the reliability of the theory of evolution, no matter how much confident-looking preening and strutting you do. That is a plain and obvious fact anyone can check out for themselves by going to any reputable university natural history department or biology department, and taking a poll of the scientists you find lurking there.
As a veteran of a thousand crevo wars, I can say we're well beyond that stage.
Ich is Ichneumon. However, ich bin nicht Ichneumon. Ich bin der Rechtsprofessor.
Danke fur das. Ich auch bin nicht Ich :)
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