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To: qam1
That's something that older generations need to understand - and which younger generations figured out a long time ago.

I'm the older generation. I'm retired. I really don't care what you do with Social Security. I will tell you this...You have not figured out anything! Government does not keep promises. They are not out to fix Social Security. They want a bigger bite of your money.

The Patriot Act is not about security...It is about more government control. The Real ID Act is not about ID...It is about more government control. The War on Drugs is not about drugs...It is about more government control.

All of us, young and old alike, have given up our liberty by believing government propaganda and media BS from both Right and Left. Bill O'Reilly and Ward Churchill are both the same kind of liars.

No country can remain free while fighting continuous wars on this and that. We have been fighting these wars all of my life and they will continue until freedom no longer exists...and that is not far down the road.
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71 posted on 05/25/2005 10:07:14 AM PDT by mugs99
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To: mugs99
I'm the older generation. I'm retired. I really don't care what you do with Social Security. I will tell you this...You have not figured out anything! Government does not keep promises. They are not out to fix Social Security. They want a bigger bite of your money.

You are so right, so why not accept private accounts and let people keep their money. The government will have to learn to get along without this "tax". Surely this would be a good thing from your point of view? Yes?

It is not about fixing social security althought a lifetime of investment would build a bigger nest egg than social security ever would. But just to take the money away from the government warms my heart. BTW, I am retired as well, not drawing SS, but living on investments I salted away myself.

111 posted on 05/25/2005 11:32:35 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: mugs99
I'm the older generation. I'm retired. I really don't care what you do with Social Security. I will tell you this...You have not figured out anything! Government does not keep promises. They are not out to fix Social Security. They want a bigger bite of your money.

The Patriot Act is not about security...It is about more government control. The Real ID Act is not about ID...It is about more government control. The War on Drugs is not about drugs...It is about more government control.

All of us, young and old alike, have given up our liberty by believing government propaganda and media BS from both Right and Left. Bill O'Reilly and Ward Churchill are both the same kind of liars.

No country can remain free while fighting continuous wars on this and that. We have been fighting these wars all of my life and they will continue until freedom no longer exists...and that is not far down the road.

Your post was so on target, I figured I should repeat it in case any confused individual missed it.

I've said it before on this forum, if you take a look at everything the government has done "in respnse" to 9/11/01, you'll find that in every single case, it has not made us any safer, but has increased their control over us, and costs us more. The best thing they could do to prevent hijackings is to make sure that every pilot was armed. This wouldn't cost us a dime, or at least very little, as I'd expect pilots would want to carry their personal firearm. The only problem with this solution, is that it gives us power rather than FedGov. Of course, this just can't be allowed.

121 posted on 05/25/2005 12:14:16 PM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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To: mugs99

Mugs99, I agree about the government control part, but from a mathematical/financial standpoint, the proposals on the table in re social security reform are sound, viable, practicable, and necessary, in comparison to the status quo.

Because your a freeper and say your older, I'll assue that your an early baby boomer or a latter member of the great generation. When you were a youth, thirty people contributed for every person drawing benefits.

Due to the wonders of science and technology, people live longer, but that creates a small problem for social security, people live longer--drawing more money from a reducing roll of people paying into the system.

Now, if we had the same numbers of people paying in to drawing i'd probably be still for privitization, but saying "what's the rush?" well there isn't its more like 2 paying in for every person collecting, in about ten years it will be 1:1. That is why it is necessary..

As for government control, again, I'm with you...


137 posted on 05/25/2005 1:04:20 PM PDT by Schwaeky (Attention Liberal Catholics---The Caffeteria is officially and permanently CLOSED!)
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