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Ex-prisoner confirms desecration in Guantanamo
The Dawn, Pakistan ^ | May 26, 2005 | Intikhab Amir

Posted on 05/26/2005 7:14:02 AM PDT by robowombat

Ex-prisoner confirms desecration in Guantanamo

By Intikhab Amir

PESHAWAR, May 25: Badar Zaman Badar, a former Guantanamo Bay prisoner, has said that the jail authorities stopped mishandling and desecrating the Holy Quran in 2003 following strong protests by prisoners. Talking to Dawn on Sunday, Mr Badar, who was released in September 2004 after spending over two years in camp X-ray, recalled that the prison staff used to mishandle the Holy Quran during daily checking of prisoners’ cells.

Throwing the Holy Book on ground while the prisoner was praying, he added, was a common practice employed by some jail officials deliberately to hurt the inmates’ religious sentiments.

“They used to carry daily checking of the Holy Book in every cell by carelessly turning its pages to check that nothing has been hidden inside it,” said Mr Badar, adding that “on several occasions, US soldiers threw the Holy Quran on the ground”.

Mr Badar, his brothers Abdul Rahim Muslim Dost and Hafizur Mohammad, and their friend Abdul Haleem Himmat were picked by personnel of Pakistani security agencies from Academy Town, Peshawar, on Nov 17, 2001, on suspicion of having links with Al Qaeda and Taliban.

While Haleem Himmat and Hafizur Mohammad were freed after 10 days, Badar and Muslim Dost were taken to Guantanamo Bay in May 2002.

The account of their experience during their confinement in Guantanamo Bay prison lend credence to reports of desecration of Holy Quran and abuse of prisoners by jail authorities, a point rejected by the US administration.

The two brothers have several stories of desecration of the Holy Quran and ridiculing the Islamic tenets by jail authorities.

“Mishandling of the Holy book and abuse of inmates was a routine affair in Guantanamo prison until 2003 when jail authorities held out an assurance that they would show respect to the Holy Quran in future and would not touch it during daily checking of prisoners’ cells,” said Mr Badar.

He recalled that once prisoners observed a hunger strike for three days after a soldier had thrown the Holy Quran in a container.

Similarly, he added, jail authorities employed several techniques to mentally torture and provoke the prisoners.

“Prisoners used to be taken for interrogation shortly before prayers, they were disturbed by soldiers while they were offering prayers and to divert prisoners’ attention during prayers security guards used to play music loudly,” said Mr Badar.

During his more than two-and-a-half-year imprisonment, he said his and other prisoners’ beards were forcibly shaved off five times, twice in Guantanamo Bay and on three occasions at the Kandahar detention cell.

He, however, acknowledged that the Guantanamo Bay prison was much better than the detention cells in Peshawar, Bagram and Kandahar.

“In terms of facilities, Guantanamo prison is much better as conditions in Bagram and Kandahar were nothing less than hell,” said Mr Badar, who underwent 150 sessions of interrogation, mostly in Guantanamo where he spent one-and-a-half year in Camp Delta’s camp-I, II and III and about an year in camp-IV of the main camp where prisoners declared ‘white’ by interrogators are kept before being released


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: detainees; gitmo; korandesecration
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"Mr Badar, who was released in September 2004 after spending over two years in camp X-ray, recalled that the prison staff used to mishandle the Holy Quran during daily checking of prisoners’ cells."

Oh the horror!!!

1 posted on 05/26/2005 7:14:02 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat

Hey Prisonor, * BIG F"N YAWN!!!!!!!!!*

They are like the neighbors dog that comes crap on the lawn and the neighbor don't care until you crap on theirs. hehehe


2 posted on 05/26/2005 7:15:42 AM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: robowombat

"Terrorist confirms that millions of Muslims were tortured to death at Gitmo last Tuesday."


3 posted on 05/26/2005 7:18:19 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: robowombat

Another good reason to "take no prisoners".


4 posted on 05/26/2005 7:20:01 AM PDT by b4its2late (It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.)
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To: robowombat

WHY DID THESE PRISONERS HAVE KORANS IN THEIR POSSESSION?


5 posted on 05/26/2005 7:22:17 AM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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Geezeey, peezeey, now we're quoting former bad guys about their difficult experiences in detainment. Poor babies.

Well Hell's bells, I don't think these guys were locked up 'cause they were members of the local chamber of commerce.

But just ask a Christian in Saudi Arabia how easy it is to go to mass in the open. Or how simple is it to read the bible there. Or to enter the country carrying a crucifix or a religious medal.

These scumbags(detainees)are being given the credibility of cultural heroes by the media. What rot.


6 posted on 05/26/2005 7:22:27 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Anyone can see what's wrong, but can you see what's right?" -Winston Churchill)
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Why not?
flame on.


7 posted on 05/26/2005 7:23:32 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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Actually the prison administration issued a Koran to each prisoner. These are the only printed matter they are permitted to have.
8 posted on 05/26/2005 7:24:47 AM PDT by robowombat
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“They used to carry daily checking of the Holy Book in every cell by carelessly turning its pages to check that nothing has been hidden inside it,” said Mr Badar

GASP!!!

Oh, the horror!
9 posted on 05/26/2005 7:25:38 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (The theory of evolution is the great cosmogenic myth of the twentieth century - Michael Denton)
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To: Valin

Besides korans, I wonder what other convenient niceties were provided to them to make their stay enjoyable. Did we provide them with rugs too?...virgins...toddlers?


10 posted on 05/26/2005 7:27:52 AM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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Soooooooooo......

Carbomb in front of young girls school... ok.

Carbomb in front of Mosque... ok.

Making a Seige out of the Church of the Nativity... ok.

Dropping a book, given to a war combatant by us in the first place... HOLY WAR!

(queue the 'Church Lady') -- "Now is that speeeciaaaaal"


11 posted on 05/26/2005 7:28:35 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Sheiite.)
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The fact that something like this is considered worthy of discussion, much less worthy of reporting and making a big deal of, only shows how perilously stupid many among us are. But I can be offended too. You know what offends me? This offends me:

But this is evidently ancient history and a faded memory to the perilously stupid among us, and nothing in comparison to "insensitivity" toward the "religious sensibilities" of terrorist thugs.

12 posted on 05/26/2005 7:30:21 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Hurl the invective!)
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Actually the prison administration issued a Koran to each prisoner. These are the only printed matter they are permitted to have.

How nice of us. I wonder how many of those prisoners have ever even touched a koran before.

13 posted on 05/26/2005 7:31:15 AM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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“They used to carry daily checking of the Holy Book in every cell by carelessly turning its pages to check that nothing has been hidden inside it,”

These guys are worse than Sen. Voinivich, sensitivity-wise.

14 posted on 05/26/2005 7:31:57 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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“Prisoners used to be taken for interrogation shortly before prayers, they were disturbed by soldiers while they were offering prayers and to divert prisoners’ attention during prayers security guards used to play music loudly,” said Mr Badar.


OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
15 posted on 05/26/2005 7:32:20 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Sheiite.)
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To: Lekker 1

We have to make sure they are able to keep abreast of what their cult literature tells them to do so if they get out they can resume their "worship".

MSM is just determined to give the Muslim world more resolve.


16 posted on 05/26/2005 7:35:16 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: Lekker 1

IIRC we also supply them with prayer rugs.


17 posted on 05/26/2005 7:44:11 AM PDT by Roccus (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: robowombat

I haven't seen anybody comment on the fact that for many centuries the most efficient way to get a pogrom going in Europe was to start a rumor that a Jew had insulted (stabbed, spit on) a Sacred Host.

I guess sometimes these rumors might even have been true.


18 posted on 05/26/2005 7:49:59 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: robowombat

In the first place, so what? In the second place, this is an ex-prisoner with an axe to grind. He'd probably say anything to make us look bad--or do anything to kill us.


19 posted on 05/26/2005 7:53:15 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: robowombat

The poor dears. Amputations and beheadings are set for after prayers on Friday.


20 posted on 05/26/2005 7:58:21 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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