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Democrats battle Bolton for U.N. post
Reuters ^ | 26 May 05 | Vicki Allen

Posted on 05/26/2005 4:07:17 PM PDT by LSUfan

Democrats made a last-ditch effort on Thursday to stall the nomination of John Bolton as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations while Republicans pressed ahead for a Senate vote on President Bush's contentious nominee.

Just one Republican -- Sen. George Voinovich of Ohio -- openly opposes Bolton.

(Excerpt) Read more at story.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: 109th; bolton; crybaby; nutcase; obstructionistdems; rubberroom; straightjacket; thereisnounitedntns; wimp
Anyone have any inside scoop on why this clown Voinovich has it out for Bolton?

Someone told me that he is of Serbian ancestry and hates Bolton for something involving Balkans policy.

Anyone know if that is true or any other reason why he is trying to shoot down this nomination?

1 posted on 05/26/2005 4:07:24 PM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan
I suspect it's just a matter of Voinovich being a bit mentally unbalanced.

...and a wuss.

2 posted on 05/26/2005 4:09:32 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: LSUfan

He's certainly of Balkan ancestry, with that name, but it need not be Serbian.


3 posted on 05/26/2005 4:09:34 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: LSUfan

Don't know about that.

I do know that Frist loses again, his "deal" with Reid to close debate on Bolton was no deal at all.

Reid, McCain wins again, Frist & conservatives lose again.

If Bush had a pair he would recess appoint Bolton. He doesn't & won't.


4 posted on 05/26/2005 4:12:23 PM PDT by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name!)
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To: expatpat; LSUfan

Bolton has Serbian father and Slovenian mother, according to Wikipedia.


5 posted on 05/26/2005 4:15:10 PM PDT by AdrianR
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To: citizen

But I don't think McCain was opposed to Bolton, was he?


6 posted on 05/26/2005 4:18:12 PM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

Voinovich is bashing Bolton because he has bought into the BS charges made by the Dems about how he can be pretty hard to get along with.

Voinovitch is the same guy who as Govermor of Ohio violated the no fly order at an airport where the president of the US was present and while airborne in his State plane asked the controllers "What are ya gonna do...shoot me down"

He was fined $20,000 for that and he thinks Boltan is a bad ass.


7 posted on 05/26/2005 4:20:04 PM PDT by Oldsailor
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To: LSUfan
Brit mentioned something about a recess appointment.

Brilliant idea!

8 posted on 05/26/2005 4:21:28 PM PDT by mickie
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To: LSUfan

looks like the dems are filibustering bolton. time to go nuclear.


9 posted on 05/26/2005 4:21:39 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: LSUfan

Those missing FBI files?


10 posted on 05/26/2005 4:24:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: LSUfan

McVain's Saving The Senate filibuster deal was supposed to return the body to a workable relationship.

Didn't last long, did it? McCain couldn't deliver his seven moderate Dims on this vote. More likely he did not try.


11 posted on 05/26/2005 4:29:49 PM PDT by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name!)
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To: LSUfan; E Rocc; facedown
I tell ya, we have two of the most principled, steadfast, outstanding statesmen serving in Congress who were both formerly mayors of my hometown, the lovely Cleveland, Ohio.

Dennis Kucinich and George Voinovich are two wonderful dudes! I mean they are both good, clean and wholesome. They're both standup guys, I tell ya!

Kucinich and Voinovich. Two of a kind, and both sons of a bitch. Yea, Cleveland! Don't we make 'em or what?

If you can't see that this is dripping sarcasm, I'm gonna slap you. Seriesly.


12 posted on 05/26/2005 4:31:26 PM PDT by rdb3 (One may smile and smile and still be a villain.)
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To: citizen

Fact is, there are NO moderate Democrats in the Senate other than Zel Miller


13 posted on 05/26/2005 4:32:41 PM PDT by LSUfan
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To: rdb3

There has GOT to be more to this deal than meets the eye. Voinovich would not grandstand like this, cry and cross swords with the president and the Senate leadership unless there was something specific and personal here.

And it ain't because Bolton doesn't play well with the other kids.

Voinovich is putting some other interest in front of everything. If it is his Serb heritage, then it is borderline treason.


14 posted on 05/26/2005 4:35:18 PM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan
There has GOT to be more to this deal than meets the eye. Voinovich would not grandstand like this, cry and cross swords with the president and the Senate leadership unless there was something specific and personal here.

I was too young to remember anything about Voinovich being mayor, but I do remember that my Pop called him "George Sumabitch."

Looks like my old man was right. Again.

Whatever his problem is, he needs to fix it and fix it fast. Wobbly knees can be fixed, but stupidity is forever.


15 posted on 05/26/2005 4:38:10 PM PDT by rdb3 (One may smile and smile and still be a villain.)
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To: rdb3

I HEAR YA....AND AGREE!!


16 posted on 05/26/2005 4:39:49 PM PDT by cousair
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To: LSUfan
New Democrat Theme song.
 
 
 
http://www.freepgs.com/marklevinfan/DNCThemeSong.swf
 
 

17 posted on 05/26/2005 4:40:09 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (....vote john mc shame for sewer tester....)
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To: ThreePuttinDude

That's great. But what about Voinovich?

I smell a rat here and I do not believe he just decided to side with the Dems on this out of the blue. The Center for Security Policy gave him an 88 on the National Security Scorecard, which isn't the highest score by far, but it isn't low at all.

Why would a guy like that side with the Dems on Bolton? There is something missing here!


18 posted on 05/26/2005 4:49:24 PM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

I think Voinie is nothing more than another Lib posing as a Repub. I don't know much about his past other than he was Gov. of Ohio. He has picked what side he is aligned with, and with that I'll never believe a thing he says.


19 posted on 05/26/2005 4:56:28 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (....vote john mc shame for sewer tester....)
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To: rdb3
Kucinich and Voinovich.

They've both drifted left. George from center-right to self-centered and Dennis from ultra left to Disneyland.

Calling him goofy is an insult to Goofy.

20 posted on 05/26/2005 4:59:43 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: ThreePuttinDude

That doesn't make sense. His record on national security votes is twice as good as most Democrats: 88 out of 100. That is no liberal...


21 posted on 05/26/2005 5:08:22 PM PDT by LSUfan
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To: BoBToMatoE
Long past time to go NUCLEAR! IMHO. I heard Graham was telling folks that Bush asked him and others to get the best deal they could because Frist didn't have the votes. He must really be catching heat to start whining this early. I hope SC throws his sorry @ss so far out of the Senate that he has to round Cape Horn to get home.

Did you know Specter wasn't around tonight and we were one vote short as I understand it.

It must be way cool for McCain and Company, twentyfour hours after they announce "Peace In Our Time" the RATS go right back to the filibuster. If they had any shame they would feel like total fools.
22 posted on 05/26/2005 5:09:33 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668)
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To: facedown
Calling him goofy is an insult to Goofy.

Stop it! I can't take anymore!


23 posted on 05/26/2005 5:13:50 PM PDT by rdb3 (One may smile and smile and still be a villain.)
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To: LSUfan
"Anyone have any inside scoop on why this clown Voinovich has it out for Bolton?"

I'd check the list of more than 2000 FBI files hitlary fed into the database, called "WHoDB."

It still exists.

24 posted on 05/26/2005 5:24:38 PM PDT by MonroeDNA ("Eat my body, drink my blood"--Catholics)
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To: LSUfan
It is perfect timing to get out of the un and send them packing.The un is a democrat thug haven.Leave the un seat vacant cut all the funding and let it die.
25 posted on 05/26/2005 5:45:43 PM PDT by solo gringo (Liberal democrats And Flori-duh judges are parasites)
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To: LSUfan
One way or the other this Vinovich is bought off! Sooner or later it will come out. I'd rather sooner! Someone who is great on "putters" can find this scoop! Just go back to the time frame and start looking at contacts! And monies$$$$$$$

Boy oh Boy did the "pubs" get screwed by the dems 'again".
26 posted on 05/26/2005 5:47:07 PM PDT by Tannerone
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To: LSUfan

"Anyone have any inside scoop on why this clown Voinovich has it out for Bolton?" Ive heard comments that he is recieving money from Soros. He is my Senator. I have called his office in D. C. like many others though he seems to be deaf. He may be better than Jerry Springer and that's the problem in Ohio, the lesser of two evils. The lesser never seem to be much better.


27 posted on 05/26/2005 5:53:26 PM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: LSUfan

OK - I give up. Let's trade Bolton for all of the dims in the senate. Let's see how well they can screw things up at the UN too


28 posted on 05/26/2005 5:55:29 PM PDT by nidan
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To: rdb3
Kucinich and Voinovich. Two of a kind, and both sons of a bitch. Yea, Cleveland! Don't we make 'em or what?
Actually, George did a good job of cleaning up Dennis the Menace's mess as Cleveland's mayor and a decent job as governor (far better than :spit: Celeste or Taft). He's a been a disappointment as a senator, but compared to Metzenbaum....

The Midget Militant is in the perfect position for him. As a representative from the minority party, he can spout off about whatever he wants without actually being responsible for anything. If there's an unindicted politician in US history with a worse administrative record, I'd be suprised.

-Eric

29 posted on 05/26/2005 6:55:41 PM PDT by E Rocc (If God is watching us, we can at least try to be entertaining)
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To: AdrianR
Bolton has Serbian father and Slovenian mother, according to Wikipedia.
You meant Voinovich, right? That's his ancestry.

Professionally, he was a Slovenian coming up in politics. He had to be in the Cleveland area. The local Serbian community is small, and the local Slovenian and Croatian communities are said to be the largest in the world outside the former Yugoslavia. Running as a Serb would have cost him among the Croatians, who occasionally name their sports teams "Ustashe", largely to annoy the Serbs.

Plus, the local Serbs never signed on to the 1970s and 80s era "Captive Nations" movement, while the Croats were affiliated.

-Eric

30 posted on 05/26/2005 7:02:12 PM PDT by E Rocc (If God is watching us, we can at least try to be entertaining)
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To: LSUfan; rdb3
There is something missing here!

Has he visited Neverland?

31 posted on 05/26/2005 7:06:41 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (I don't drink and FReep...it just looks that way)
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To: LSUfan

I asked myself the same question regarding his heritage. I have even emailed several of his aides but they do not respond. A former Ohioan FRer mentioned a corrupt mafia machine getting him into power. Here it is:

This man (Voinovich) is a RINO idiot.

He's also MOBBED-UP. His brother, (the contractor), is mobbed up, and George's first political campaigns were financed with then-Cleveland mob boss Pete Licavoli's and some of his successor Angelo Lonardo's money.

"He's a crook who got where he is today courtesy of the Cosa Nostra.

What was that Brando says about "Senator Corleone...Governor Corleone" in 'The Godfather'"


32 posted on 05/26/2005 7:11:58 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Mr. Mojo
...and a wuss.

That's not *sniff sniff* NICE!

33 posted on 05/26/2005 7:13:05 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: LSUfan

http://www.americanmafia.com/Feature_Articles_213.html

Do a FIND voinovich and locate the info on the contracts. He is the Republicans' answer to Nancy "no blink" Pelosi - mafia princess making her bones in congress.


34 posted on 05/26/2005 7:16:07 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: E Rocc

Yes, I meant Voinovich. My mistake.


35 posted on 05/26/2005 7:17:14 PM PDT by AdrianR
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To: rdb3

He's not your "old man", he's your father--or Dad.


36 posted on 05/26/2005 8:33:17 PM PDT by brushcop (Remember SFC David Salie, a gentle giant of a man KIA (2-14-05) Iraq fighting for their liberty.)
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To: LSUfan
Voinovich was sobbing that his offsprings' future would be wrecked by Bolton.

Is Sen Voinovich afraid that Bolton will do things that harm Voinovich, Needles and Dalton, the firm for which both his son and his former Chief of staff (Ted Hollingsworth) hold the titles of MGRM?

From:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1410932/posts?page=33#33

"The son of Ohio Senator George Voinovich has teamed up with three public affairs veterans to open a new public affairs and lobbying agency. The firm, Voinovich, Needles, and Dalton [VND - A Foreign Limited Liability Corporation in Florida] will be based in Columbus, with offices in **Akron**, Jacksonville, Washington, DC, and Beijing ... George F. Voinovich's partners in the venture are Thomas Needles, the founder of Ohio-based public affairs firm Statecraft; Jim Dalton, founder of Jacksonville's Dalton Agency; and Dalton Agency VP of PR Michael Munz." April 16, 2004.

Here is more on Hollingsworth (Sen Voinovich's former Chief of Staff) who works for a company associated with VND and who seems to be an officer for VND HOLDINGS, LLC

The United States Enrichment Corp., a company that enriches uranium for use in nuclear power plants, has hired the firm Compass Consulting Group to track energy-policy developments in Congress. The lobbyists working the account include Ted Hollingsworth, a former chief of staff to Sen. George Voinovich (R-Ohio).
**Voinovich's son works for a law firm in **Akron** which has the same address as VND -- 75 EAST MARKET STREET AKRON OH 44308
37 posted on 05/26/2005 9:25:50 PM PDT by syriacus (Have YOU hugged a rudderless, cranky, down-at-the-mouth liberal -like Harry Reid- today?)
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From Voinovich, Needles, Dalton LLC web pages
As the world stage continues to change and economic situations evolve, VND is well-positioned to offer strategic direction internationally, particularly through our offices in Beijing and Shanghai, China.[snip]

Voinovich, Needles & Dalton's public and government affairs efforts focus exclusively on achieving success for our clients by influencing outcomes. We know how to succinctly convey relevant information to public officials to help them make the best decisions on legislation and matters of public policy.


38 posted on 05/26/2005 9:43:53 PM PDT by syriacus (Have YOU hugged a rudderless, cranky, down-at-the-mouth liberal -like Harry Reid- today?)
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To: syriacus
Voinovich, Needles and Dalton, LLC has many clients, including Han-Padron, a company which is involved in US Security.

1.HPA Awarded U.S. Coast Guard Facility Security Plan Reviews Contract February 2004.

HPA is a key member of a multi-disciplined team of professionals primed by Black & Veatch Special Projects Corp. (B&V), who was awarded a contract to work closely with the U.S. Coast Guard to assist in conducting the review of up to 5,000 Port Facility Security Plans.  
2.HPA Awarded Port of Richmond Security Project
3. Underwater Facility Assessments at Various Locations Worldwide
Under similar contracts, HPA has conducted inspections at such locations as Pearl Harbor Hawaii, Diego Garcia, Okinawa Japan, Guantanamo Bay Cuba..

Also listed among VND's clients is Lockheed-Martin IMS, which has been bought by another firm recently. Here is a story about the way in which Lockheed Martin IMS operated in 2001

TAMPA -- 1/15/03 -- In what could be the story line from a legal thriller, two government workers say they discovered potential fraud by a huge company with a multimillion-dollar job training contract.

[Lockheed Martin IMS], hoping to keep the contract, hired an agitator named "Momma Tee" to conduct a smear campaign against the workers. Momma Tee called the workers racists and vowed to "get" them.

Ultimately, one of the workers lost his job, the other committed suicide. ...

The lawsuit is the latest chapter in a 3-year-old controversy over the way a division of Lockheed Martin ran Pinellas County's $15-million welfare-to-work program.[excerpt]


39 posted on 05/26/2005 10:18:37 PM PDT by syriacus (Have YOU hugged a rudderless, cranky, down-at-the-mouth liberal -like Harry Reid- today?)
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To: LSUfan
That doesn't make sense. His record on national security votes is twice as good as most Democrats: 88 out of 100. That is no liberal...

He does have what appears to be a Consev. rating, but I just don't trust ratings. I have abosolutely "0" faith in polls as well. I have known far too many politicos that have looked to be conservative, then in the pinch, up jumps the LIB side of the person.

Thats just my opinion and experience. I've read on one of the threads, by an Ohioan, they said of Voinie, "Once bitten, Twice shy".

40 posted on 05/28/2005 4:39:32 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (....vote john mc shame for sewer tester....)
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