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Russian Boxer Valuev Number One WBA Heavyweight
Moscow News ^
| 27.05.2005
Posted on 05/27/2005 1:52:24 PM PDT by lizol
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To: Grzegorz 246
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posted on
05/27/2005 2:18:47 PM PDT
by
lizol
To: lizol
"Russias largest boxer at 151 kilograms and a height of 215 centimeters..." That's about 333 lbs., and a little over 7 ft. tall?! Yikes!
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posted on
05/27/2005 2:18:51 PM PDT
by
watchin
(People become leftists as a sort of gesture of infantile rage against their parents)
To: Plutarch
I think Kid McCoy once fought this guy. As Frankie Laine intoned regarding that contest: C'mon, Kid...C'mon, Kid...Let's hit'm with a left and a right...Go on, Kid...Go on, Kid...But how were they to know it was the Kid's last fight...
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posted on
05/27/2005 2:21:30 PM PDT
by
stevem
To: lizol
Geeze, did they do a DNA test on this guy to see if he is a human?
To: watchin
Muhammed Ali... desposed soundly Ernie Terrell who was 6' 8" or more I believe. I don't know if there is anyone even close to the ability of Ali fighting today, so therefore a plug like this might make it to the title.
nick
To: nikos1121
Terrell was 6-6 if memory serves.
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posted on
05/27/2005 2:28:49 PM PDT
by
Deb8
To: lizol
A lot of times power carries a boxer pretty far. When the power goes, there was not so much skill behind it.
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posted on
05/27/2005 2:28:51 PM PDT
by
RightWhale
(These problems would not exist if we had had a moon base all along)
To: Deb8
I met him, he seems taller. But it can easily be looked up. Do you want to fight about it? :-)
nick
To: nikos1121
I don't know if there is anyone even close to the ability of Ali fighting todayI watched a couple of Clay/Ali fights on ESPNCL with my son the other day. He was amazed to find that names like Frazier, Foreman and Ali were all fighting in the same time period.
I can't even name a heavyweight today. I hated Ali when I was a kid, because he was such a blowhard. Looking back, though, he was really a great athlete.
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posted on
05/27/2005 2:32:22 PM PDT
by
watchin
(People become leftists as a sort of gesture of infantile rage against their parents)
To: lizol
Boze kochany toc to nie czlowiek. Z taka twarza to mozna noc przestraszyc leje ze smiechu dzieki lizol
English
Help Help Help mega help Achtung!!!Achtung!!!Achtung!!!"Huston we have problem":}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
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posted on
05/27/2005 2:33:05 PM PDT
by
anonymoussierra
(In te credo, in te spero, te amo, te adoro, beata Trinitas unus Deus, miserere mei nunc et in hora m)
To: Mike Darancette
Oh my God!
Looks like some of them survived!!
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posted on
05/27/2005 2:46:10 PM PDT
by
lizol
To: lizol
With a 43-0 record, 7'2" tall, and 332 pounds, Nikolai Valuev is an imposing figure of a man. He knocked out Clifford Etienne in the 3rd round of their WBA intercontinental title bout in Bayreauth, Germany on May 14, 2005
Etienne, the Black Rhino, has a fairly impressive record against top competition. He has beaten Lamon Brewster and Lawrence Clay-Bey. Tyson knocked him out in the 1st round.
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posted on
05/27/2005 2:57:05 PM PDT
by
kabar
To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
I love the Ring rankings but I wish they would have the guts to dismiss Ruiz' title. He has never beaten a great fighter. His wins are never impressive. He not only was beaten by a former middleweight champion, he was beaten by two of them. The guy simply can not box. He has benefited from weak competition and inept officiating.
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posted on
05/27/2005 3:19:57 PM PDT
by
sharktrager
(The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
To: tahotdog
That's 332 lbs, great for wrestling but way too big and heavy to be a serious prizefighter. You don't gain any punching power after about 225 lbs. Anything past that is just extra weight to carry around. Somebody like Joe Louis would demolish him.,/i>
LOL. Where did you come up with that one? Punching power is more than weight, but size does matter. Why? It is called physics: Force=Mass x Acceleration.
It goes back to Newton's second law of motion. The acceleration of an object as produced by a net force is directly proportional to the magnitude of the net force, in the same direction as the net force, and inversely proportional to the mass of the object.
All things considered equal a 330 lb guy can hit harder than a 225 pound guy. Put another way, the 225 lb heavyweight can outpunch the 125 lb Featherweight or 120 lb Super Bantamweight.
Louis was 6'2" and 207 in his prime. His superior boxing skills would have probably carried him to victory. Although Louis is rated as the greatest puncher of all time by Ring nmagazine, I don't know if he would have knocked this guy out. He would be giving away 125 pounds. Louis was 69-3 with 55 KOs.
Primo Carnera only weighed 260 when Louis KO's him in 6. Billy Conn, a lightheavy, shook Louis up several times in their first fight and would have beat him by decision if the hard headed Irishman hadn't decided to try to take Louis out by KO. Instead Conn got KO'd in the 13th round.
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posted on
05/27/2005 3:24:34 PM PDT
by
kabar
To: jb6; Destro
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posted on
05/27/2005 3:38:07 PM PDT
by
GarySpFc
(Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
To: sharktrager
My pappy used to say - "Never pick a fight a man uglier than yourself - he has nothing to lose." By that standard, I'm not sure there is anyone on earth who should fight this guy.
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posted on
05/27/2005 3:48:26 PM PDT
by
TheHound
(You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
To: lizol
This Dude is definitely carrying some "throwback genes" and they're probably the ones used to slay Wooly Mammoths or such.
mc:<)
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posted on
05/27/2005 3:49:16 PM PDT
by
mcshot
(Boldly going nowhere with a smile and appreciation for life.)
To: tahotdog
That's 332 lbs, great for wrestling but way too big and heavy to be a serious prizefighter. You don't gain any punching power after about 225 lbs. Primo Canera went about 270 and was 6'7".
To: Mike Darancette
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posted on
05/27/2005 4:28:19 PM PDT
by
kabar
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