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After Minuteman Melee, Protesters Have New Beef
LA Times ^ | 5/27/05 | Jennifer Delson and Mai Tran, Times Staff Writers

Posted on 05/27/2005 4:14:34 PM PDT by LNewman

An activist opposing illegal immigration who drove his van into a crowd of protesters in Garden Grove will not be charged ... prompting anger from detractors.

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Netkin was released after police watched a videotape that showed protesters surrounding the vehicle, banging on it and refusing to move, ... About 300 protesters at the scene were "trying to intimidate him and refused to let him pass," ...

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James Lafferty, director of the National Lawyers Guild in Los Angeles, said he was among those struck by Netkin's van. He said staging protests at Gilchrist's events was necessary, even if it increased his profile.

"I'm glad there were people there saying something [Wednesday night]. We need to have this debate," said Lafferty, who said he was not injured. "We can't just stand and watch this."

Protesters said they arrived at the Garden Grove Women's Club about 6:30 p.m. after receiving an e-mail saying Gilchrist was to speak to the California Coalition for Immigration Reform ...

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The protesters blocked the entrance and tossed soda cans and cans packed with marbles at police and attendees, Handfield said. They kicked, banged and threw rocks at cars; some wore latex gloves and hoods so they wouldn't be identified by police, Handfield said. Some attendees decided not to enter the building because they feared violence.

Some of the protesters paid $5 for admission to the event and alerted protesters outside when attendees were leaving the building.

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Lafferty said the arrests were unfair.

"What's sticking in the craw of the protesters is that they would quickly let a man go without even charging him, whereas the students and protesters for much less serious matters were charged and there is no proof, as far as I can tell, that they did anything anyway," Lafferty said.

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(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; americahaters; bullzogby; cary; gardengrove; immigrantlist; jimgilchrist; mediabias; minuteman; minutemanproject; mmp; newsspeak; nlg; nobordernonation; zogbyism
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1 posted on 05/27/2005 4:14:34 PM PDT by LNewman
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To: LNewman
and there is no proof, as far as I can tell

That's what the court is for.

2 posted on 05/27/2005 4:16:22 PM PDT by Flyer (I've seen your king come and go here)
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To: LNewman
....who drove his van into a crowd of protesters

What was the guy supposed to do, just sit there while the lowlife scum tore his vehicle to shreds?

3 posted on 05/27/2005 4:18:47 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: LNewman
Were mounted police on the scene? If so, the tossed marbles (tactics to make the horses fall) constituted assault upon the equine police officers, putting life and limb in jeopardy.
4 posted on 05/27/2005 4:20:28 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: LNewman

S-cubed.


5 posted on 05/27/2005 4:20:52 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

No, they loaded soda cans with marbles and threw them at the attendees.

That's assault with a deadly weapon.


6 posted on 05/27/2005 4:21:43 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Mr. Mojo

The article is different from the headline. The art says the protestors surrounded the van and refused to let it pass. Doesnt say teh van "drove" (as in attacked) the protestors.

Very cleverly written, slanted article.


7 posted on 05/27/2005 4:24:33 PM PDT by ibbryn (this tag intentionally left blank)
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To: Mr. Mojo
What was the guy supposed to do, just sit there while the lowlife scum tore his vehicle to shreds?

He was a lot more patient with these freaks than I would have been. The way I look at it, I don't drive on their sidewalks, they don't stand in my streets....I'm not stopping my $20,000 truck for a 28 cent protester. You might call it bad math, but the way I figure, 20,000 will go over 28 one time with nothing left over....

8 posted on 05/27/2005 4:25:12 PM PDT by dirtbiker (Solution for Terrorism: Nuke 'em 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!)
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To: LNewman

Finally some good news. Keep on Truckin'


9 posted on 05/27/2005 4:26:20 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: LNewman

he drove off, they were in the way.
he avoided becoming another Reginald Denny.

note to self: don't stand in the road.


10 posted on 05/27/2005 4:27:53 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (The MRS wanted to go to an expensive place to eat so I took her to the gas station.)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
Were mounted police on the scene?

No, but there were police on the scene. In other accounts it described how they watched this and did nothing until it got out of hand. The driver also said he was trying to get his car closer to the cops so they would help him.

A lot of these troublemakers call the Minutemen "vigilantes" I want to see their faces when the public gets fed up with their crap some real vigilantes come along.

11 posted on 05/27/2005 4:28:56 PM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
they loaded soda cans with marbles and threw them at the attendees.

That straight out of the anarchists handbooks.

Some of these "protesters" were left wing pro's.

Apparently they are bringing in outsiders, the cops need to be on the lookout.

12 posted on 05/27/2005 4:29:10 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: LNewman

The "protestors" came there to PROVOKE VIOLENCE, it was obvious.


13 posted on 05/27/2005 4:29:14 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
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To: Sonny M

In my book, throw a marble-loaded soda can at a guy with a gun, you have no complaint if he puts a bullet in your a$$.


14 posted on 05/27/2005 4:30:22 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: LNewman; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; dagnabbit; ...
yawn . .

An activist opposing illegal immigration who drove his van into a crowd of protesters in Garden Grove will not be charged ... prompting anger from detractors.

15 posted on 05/27/2005 4:34:11 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: LNewman
An activist in the peace movement for years, Lafferty is a former national coordinator of the National Peace Action Coalition. He chaired the largest ACLU Chapter in Michigan and has taught courses at the Wayne State University and University of Michigan Law Schools and The New School for Social Research in New York City.

Basic Civil Liberties and Bill of Rights Another Victim of the Attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C. Interview with James Lafferty, director of the Los Angeles office of the National Lawyers Guild

The ACLU filed the Aug. 9 suit on behalf of the National Lawyers Guild, the Coalition to Stop the Execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal

"(The) LAPD's unconstitutional use of force targets everyone and anyone who dares to speak out about the injustices in our society," said James Lafferty, executive director of the Los Angeles Chapter of the National Lawyers Guild, in the release. "Its target is the right to dissent. Its target is constitutional government as we know it."

16 posted on 05/27/2005 4:36:18 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
That's assault with a deadly weapon.

Here's a list of those arrested:

6 arrested at Minuteman clash
May 27, 2005

Arrests were made on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon, disorderly conduct and possession of a deadly weapon, with the causes varying for each suspect. Protesters arrested were


A supporter [Hal Netkin] who hit two protesters with van was released without charges.

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17 posted on 05/27/2005 4:37:45 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: LNewman

Hamid Khan another activists brought six people to the protest. Sounds like the Muslim activists are starting to stick their heads out of the holes now too.


18 posted on 05/27/2005 4:37:55 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: LNewman

I hope the minutemen are videotaping everything. These lowlifes are trying to portray themselves as the victims.


19 posted on 05/27/2005 4:38:20 PM PDT by FierceKulak
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To: LNewman

Feb 28th, 2005

Individuals and Organizations
Supporting Communist Party


Taken verbatim from the website of the Communist Party USA, 1999


Sen. Barbara Boxer
Center for Campus Organizing
National Lawyers Guild
Southern Christian Leadership Conference -Youth Section
Student Environmental Action Coalition
Student Association of the State University of New York
United States Student Association
University of California Student Association
Young Communist League, USA

James Lafferty - National Lawyers Guild


Please Note: This information was taken from the Communist Party USA dated 1999 things have changed since then... Those in Congress that are affiliated with the Communist Movement now identify themselves as ""PROGRESSIVES""


20 posted on 05/27/2005 4:39:37 PM PDT by kcvl
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