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Why China is poised to streak ahead of the West
Edmonton Journal ^ | May 27, 2005 | David Finlayson

Posted on 05/31/2005 4:06:20 AM PDT by aculeus

EDMONTON - China's doing things the rest of us don't even know about, and unless we change quickly they will streak past us, futurist Frank Ogden says.

"They are speeding ahead in so many areas because they have the ability to get big things done very quickly," the man known as Dr. Tomorrow told the Construction Specifications Canada conference here.

"They're very smart, they think differently from us, and they have no restrictions on anything," said Ogden, an 84-year-old world traveller who lives on a high-tech houseboat in Vancouver.

In three weeks they relocated the residents of a large city block in Shanghai, bulldozed the buildings and built a 1,000-bed isolation hospital using 10,000 conscripted workers, Ogden said.

On the last day of construction, a stream of ambulances was bringing in patients.

"They work 15 hours a day, every day, with no union interference, and that's what's going to beat us," Ogden told the gathering of architects, engineers and other construction-related sectors.

Their wages have also doubled in the last couple of years to 28 cents an hour, so the workers think they're making big money.

And China's not only manufacturing pots and pans any more. It's producing quality, intricate items such as scientific instruments, he said.

"The infrastructure stinks, but they're working on that. And when they decide to do something it happens in a hurry."

They also have no restrictions on reproductive technology so they could clone people and rent them out to North America, which is facing a shortage of workers, said Ogden, with a wink.

North America's future will be vastly different as China's economy grows and the world keeps moving ahead at warp speed, he said.

Nine-to-five jobs will become a piece of history as we put in almost full days on the job, he predicted.

"We also have to learn much faster or other countries will do it and sell it back to us. The current, inefficient university lecture system will have to replaced, and he sees a day when we're all using new Sony technology that puts information into our brain patterns while we're asleep. "That was in the realm of science fiction for years, but just imagine how quickly you can absorb information that way."

Companies will also have to become incredibly creative to compete globally, Ogden said.

"Don't even think of a box, never mind outside it. Every company should have a smart 12-year-old who thinks off-the-wall. In China they've just grown a monkey's heart, and if you can do that you can do anything."

dfinlayson@thejournal.canwest.com

© The Edmonton Journal 2005


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: china; globalism; trends
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To: aculeus

Haven't been in China since 1973. The place was an ecological disaster way back then. Since industrialization I can't imagine things there any way but ten times worse.
Soon the cancer rates and death from air and water pollution will start problems unforseen at this time.

GOOD.


21 posted on 05/31/2005 4:56:58 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Joe Boucher
Soon the cancer rates and death from air and water pollution will start problems unforeseen at this time.

Not a problem. You must have missed the part where this Vancouver rocket scientist said China would be cloning human worker ants.

22 posted on 05/31/2005 5:01:41 AM PDT by dennisw (He writes everything's been returned which was owed...)
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To: aculeus
built a 1,000-bed isolation hospital using 10,000 conscripted workers Slave Laborers.
23 posted on 05/31/2005 5:02:33 AM PDT by joshhiggins
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To: dennisw

Say again? That message came in rather garbled. ;)


24 posted on 05/31/2005 5:04:42 AM PDT by G.Mason ( It's people like you, that make people like me, people like you!)
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To: King Prout

AND this one.

(You're right...something is on!)


25 posted on 05/31/2005 5:05:20 AM PDT by tiamat (Can't sleep...clowns will get me..can't sleep...clowns will get me...can't sleep....clowns will get)
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To: G.Mason

On the internet anyone can *SAY* anything to anyone at anytime. From your high speed connection on your high tech houseboat, in Vancouver.


26 posted on 05/31/2005 5:06:24 AM PDT by dennisw (He writes everything's been returned which was owed...)
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To: aculeus

I could do anything with 10,000 conscripted workers too! China is going to streak ahead with those conscripted workers - and the world will be a better place with China taking our place as the world's superpower - defending liberty and freedom everywhere.


27 posted on 05/31/2005 5:10:41 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.)
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To: beckaz
Correct.  Everyone is going to surpass the US in everything, yet it never happens.

One can only imagine just how further ahead the US would be if we didn't give untold billions to foriegn aid, didn't have our own media working against us or had the liberal left whining at every turn.

28 posted on 05/31/2005 5:11:31 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Soliton

Is he not th first recipient of the University of Victoria "Cheech and Chong" award for Creative Herbology


29 posted on 05/31/2005 5:17:09 AM PDT by colonialhk (sooprize sooprize sooprize)
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To: aculeus
they think differently from us, and they have no restrictions on anything,"

Im sure the thousands dead in Tinamen think differently

30 posted on 05/31/2005 5:20:37 AM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: aculeus

china's doing well in some areas but that's only possible by forcing huge problems under the carpet.
The financial system in china is a scandal of untold proportions. Chances are most of common people's savings, in nationalized banks, are already toast coz china's banks are notoriously bloated with nonperforming assets and unrepayable loans (to other state units). When this bubble bursts, watch out for the repurcussions around the globe.


31 posted on 05/31/2005 5:22:54 AM PDT by voletti (Voletti)
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To: dennisw

like more rats i mean chineese is what they need?


32 posted on 05/31/2005 5:29:52 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: chronic_loser

The Chinese economic system is closer to that of Nazi Germany than to the Red China of the Maoist era or the USSR under glasnost and perestroika or Lenin's New Economic Plan.


33 posted on 05/31/2005 5:32:52 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: aculeus

"They're very smart, they think differently from us, and they have no restrictions on anything..."

I think the Canadians have a lot of other things to worry about before they worry about the Chinese.


34 posted on 05/31/2005 5:38:06 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: aculeus
"They're very smart, they think differently from us, and they have no restrictions on anything."

The bad news is they're racist.

The other bad news is that they have America's military secrets, thanks to the Clinton Administration.

The other bad news is that Europe is decadent.

The other bad news is that almost half of the U.S. voting population is also decadent--the Left: the "Mainstream Newsmedia", academia, Hollywood, the Democrat Party, et al.

The good news is that the Chinese are not Muslim.

35 posted on 05/31/2005 5:42:30 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Left IS the Dark Side.)
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To: dennisw
From your high speed connection on your high tech houseboat, in Vancouver.

Or from some shack in a tropical jungle.  I'm very happy to see so many sane people who know that China is a primitive agrarian society that can think it's a world player because it doesn't understand the world.  The MSM is probably happy that it can now have less trouble finding their really loopy input.

36 posted on 05/31/2005 5:49:08 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: chronic_loser
I think you used my post to go off on a tangent, because you have made some assumptions that would have been impossible to conclude from what I posted.

Anyway, Good Luck with your future plans.

37 posted on 05/31/2005 5:54:51 AM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: aculeus

China: LAND OF THE COPY!


38 posted on 05/31/2005 6:07:36 AM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: ProudVet77
Exactly.

China's pollution problems are so serious it would take several trillion US dollars to help resolve their pollution problems, especially air and water pollution that has already affect the health of many Chinese across that country.

39 posted on 05/31/2005 6:10:50 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: chronic_loser
Present plan has me selling my business and retiring in 3 years, with plans to teach English in Bejing for a couple of year afterwards. I want to be where things are happening, and China is such a place.

Sounds like a plan. I'm aiming for Vietnam, which is lagging by far but will improve once the old Viet Minh fogies die off.

You should learn some Mandarin before you move to Beijing.

40 posted on 05/31/2005 6:12:42 AM PDT by angkor
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