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Mark Steyn - Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
The Spectator ^ | June 1, 2005 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 06/01/2005 10:34:25 AM PDT by quidnunc

Vengeance is mine, saith the Sith, whith thoundth like Violet Elizabeth Bott. No such luck. Instead, it’s George Lucas, with what he insists is the final film in the Star Wars sextet. My guess is the first film in the new Star Wars septet will be opening circa 2008. Anyway, Revenge of the Sith is, so Lucas assures us, a ‘tragedy’. It might have been wise to have stationed an announcer at every movie house to announce this fact over the PA system since it eluded the audience I saw it with last weekend. When the Sith hits the fan, the fan bursts out laughing. Oh, to be sure, they were diverted by the opening dogfight and Obi-Wan Kenobi riding a wild four-legged space beast to hunt down General Grievous. But they were howling with laughter through all the so-called ‘tragic’ elements. When Senator-Queen Padmé (Natalie Portman) reveals that she’s pregnant, her secret husband Anakin Skywalker (Hayden Christensen) reacts with an eerie glassy-eyed expression as if he’s hypnotised himself trying to remember the next line. Eventually, Lucas prompts him and he utters the words, ‘I’ll have the club sandwich.’ No, wait. That’s just what it sounds like. He actually says: ‘You’re so … beautiful.’

‘It’s only because I’m so in love,’ says Padmé tonelessly, like a spy giving the reply password.

‘No,’ says Anakin. ‘I’m so in love. With you,’ he adds helpfully, just in case Padmé figures it’s the hot-looking Wookie strolling by in the background.

At this, my fellow theatergoers exploded with guffaws of derision. May the farce be with you! The final descent of Ian McDiarmid’s Chancellor Palpatine into Darth Hammitup brought on more laffs, as did the moment when Anakin attempts to talk Padmé into joining him over on the Dark Side: ‘Together you and I can rule the galaxy,’ he snarls. Well, tries to snarl.

‘Obi-Wan was right. You’ve changed,’ says Princess Padmé. ‘I don’t know you any more.’ He used to look like Princess Di flashing those big eyes from under his hair. But suddenly he looks like Princess Di with too much kohl and in a peevish mood. What can this mean?

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1 posted on 06/01/2005 10:34:26 AM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

I loved the movie. To hell with reviewers, left and right. I admit there were a few stupid lines, and I thought the transition from Annakin to Darth was too rapid, but it was still a great movie.


2 posted on 06/01/2005 10:37:49 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: quidnunc

3 posted on 06/01/2005 10:40:34 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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I'll never understand the Star Wars thing.


4 posted on 06/01/2005 10:41:18 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: LS

I loved the movie. It was big and loud, had tragedy and lots of fighting. Very epic, damn the reviewers.

I was just glad that it was Ewen McGregor who had the lines that had to be delivered best. At the end, when he was yelling at Anakin "You were like my brother!!!"

It broke my heart for ObiWan. Very sad.

The movie was very operatic. And the music.

Did I say I liked the movie?


5 posted on 06/01/2005 10:42:47 AM PDT by eyespysomething (Peace - that brief moment in history where everyone stands around reloading.)
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To: quidnunc
At this, my fellow theatergoers exploded with guffaws of derision.

I had the exact same experience. Well, we'll never have to see Hayden Christensen in a movie again.

6 posted on 06/01/2005 10:43:00 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: LS

All movies appear stupid to me, although some manage to be entertaining dispite their stupidity. The only movies I can watch more than once or twice are comedies, and darn few of them.


7 posted on 06/01/2005 10:45:04 AM PDT by js1138 (e unum pluribus)
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To: Last Dakotan

I liked the movie, too. But that doesn't mean it wasn't stupid....just fun. It really was a dumb story.


8 posted on 06/01/2005 10:45:37 AM PDT by arkfreepdom
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To: quidnunc

STAR WARS EPISODE III: REVENGE OF THE SITH

Vengeance is mine, saith the Sith, whith thoundth like Violet Elizabeth Bott. No such luck. Instead, it’s George Lucas, with what he insists is the final film in the Star Wars sextet. My guess is the first film in the new Star Wars septet will be opening circa 2008. Anyway, Revenge of the Sith is, so Lucas assures us, a ‘tragedy’. It might have been wise to have stationed an announcer at every movie house to announce this fact over the PA system since it eluded the audience I saw it with last weekend. When the Sith hits the fan, the fan bursts out laughing. Oh, to be sure, they were diverted by the opening dogfight and Obi-Wan Kenobi riding a wild four-legged space beast to hunt down General Grievous. But they were howling with laughter through all the so-called ‘tragic’ elements. When Senator-Queen Padmé (Natalie Portman) reveals that she’s pregnant, her secret husband Anakin Skywalker (Hayden Christensen) reacts with an eerie glassy-eyed expression as if he’s hypnotised himself trying to remember the next line. Eventually, Lucas prompts him and he utters the words, ‘I’ll have the club sandwich.’ No, wait. That’s just what it sounds like. He actually says: ‘You’re so ...beautiful.’

‘It’s only because I’m so in love,’ says Padmé tonelessly, like a spy giving the reply password.

‘No,’ says Anakin. ‘I’m so in love. With you,’ he adds helpfully, just in case Padmé figures it’s the hot-looking Wookie strolling by in the background.

At this, my fellow theatergoers exploded with guffaws of derision. May the farce be with you! The final descent of Ian McDiarmid’s Chancellor Palpatine into Darth Hammitup brought on more laffs, as did the moment when Anakin attempts to talk Padmé into joining him over on the Dark Side: ‘Together you and I can rule the galaxy,’ he snarls. Well, tries to snarl.

‘Obi-Wan was right. You’ve changed,’ says Princess Padmé. ‘I don’t know you any more.’ He used to look like Princess Di flashing those big eyes from under his hair. But suddenly he looks like Princess Di with too much kohl and in a peevish mood. What can this mean?

It means the young Jedi knight is en route to his rebirth as the evil über-Sith Darth Vader. Lucas has had three decades to plan this moment. One must respect a hit — Star Wars has been doing boffo biz for 28 years, which is two-fifths of the entire history of talking pictures. But the heart of its mythic pretensions is the transformation of Anakin, boy hero of the three ‘prequels’, into Vader, black-hatted villain of the first three movies. For Lucas, the revelation of this degeneration was supposed to bring the Star Wars story full circle and explain the primal forces driving the original film. And what does Lucas come up with? Well, Anakin’s worried that his beloved Padmé might die in childbirth.

Padmé promises him she won’t die in childbirth. ‘I promise you I won’t die in childbirth,’ she says. I wrote a couple of Star Wars back that Lucas characters always have to spell out what they’re thinking and feeling because he’s incapable of showing it. You can’t make the core of the story the absolute overpowering love of boy for girl when the two of them have all the sexual chemistry of their Burger King merchandising tie-in action figures. Lucas is truly one of the all-time worst directors of actors, and I include the teacher who put together the school production of Fiddler on the Roof I saw last week and got a more touching love scene out of a couple of 11-year-olds as the middle-aged Tevye and Golde than anything Christensen and Portman manage here. Presumably actors say yes to Lucas because they figure Star Wars will do for them what it did for Harrison Ford. Instead, Lucas turns everyone he touches into Mark Hamill.

So even though his hand-me-down Faustian bargain-basement plot motivation has been a surefire firecracker down the ages, it’s a damp squib here. The scene where Darth Sidious (McDiarmid) talks Anakin into signing on with the Dark Side takes for ever yet still seems perfunctory. And Anakin’s attempt to butch up his voice sounds like a boy soprano trying to growl ‘Ol’ Man River’. ‘I have brought peace, freedom, justice, security to my new empire,’ he cackles, trying to sound like one pithed Sith. ‘If you’re not with me, you are my enemy.’ Uh-oh. Anakin seems to be transmogrifying into Darth W. Bush.

‘Only a Sith deals in absolutes,’ scoffs Obi-Wan Kenobi.

Oh, put a lightsabre in it, will you? The allegedly anti-Bush ‘subtext’ has won Lucas the unlikely approval of the Cannes Film Festival crowd, but honestly: how desperate do you have to be to applaud mockery of Bush for seeing everything in black and white from a guy who’s spent 28 years peddling a fairytale so basic the good guys and the bad guys are called the Good Side and the Dark Side. Other enduring pop-culture yarns get going because some fellow comes up with an idea, rattles it off, no big deal — and, if it takes off and hangs around for a few decades, what began as necessary functional plot mechanisms gradually deepen and darken: hence, all those gloomy Batman ‘reinventions’ in which the ‘dark knight’ sits hunched in his cape on a Gotham City rooftop brooding over the death of his parents, his inability to form lasting relationships, etc. Many of us think the conversion of great junk into self-conscious art is not altogether a blessing, but nonetheless it reflects a basic truth: that simply by sticking around long enough, a two-dimensional comic-book character becomes real. With Star Wars, the opposite’s happened: after 28 years, Lucas’s characters are more cardboard than ever. All his energy goes into ever more elaborate computerised backdrops, while up front Obi and Anakin fade to ever more witless felt-tip outlines. In 1977, the original movie said only that Darth Vader had been ‘seduced by the Dark Side of the Force’. There’s no seduction here: he’s played for a sap and suckered by Sidious. He’s Dork Vader, all-time fall guy for the machinations of another. Even for a paint-by-numbers space opera, that doesn’t pass muster.

Oh, well. After Padmé dies giving birth to Luke and Leia — and no, I’m not giving any plot twists away; you can see it coming towards you from three sequels back — Senator Organa says, ‘My wife and I will take the girl. We’ve always dreamed of adopting a baby girl.’ It’s virtually the last line in the movie, and it had my fellow customers weeping with laughter. How can Lucas have such a tin ear? It’s like he’s been walled up in the Vader helmet, the young Hollywood knight transformed into Darth Plonker.
The Spectator, June 1st 2005

9 posted on 06/01/2005 10:47:12 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: LS
Loved this movie! Thought it was the third best of all six. I'm planning on seeing it again this Friday.

There are two groups of Star Wars "Fans": Those who enjoy watching Star Wars Those who love to hate Star Wars

10 posted on 06/01/2005 10:47:53 AM PDT by Portnoy (Fahrenheit 451...Today's Temperature is hotter than you think...)
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To: LS

I liked the movie, too. I'll agree with some reviewers that it was better than the original Star Wars (a.k.a. Episode IV), but I'm torn as to whether it, or the other unhappy-ending episode, The Empire Strikes Back, was the best of the six.

It still suffered from Lucas not directing his two romantic leads into shape. (I guess even with dialog ghost-written by Stoppard he just wasn't up to it--good thing Christensen matured a little and Portman didn't get too much screen time.)

I'm not sure Annakin's turn to the Dark Side was too quick (after all, it was set up by his perfectly human, but un-Jedi-like revenge killing of the Tusken raiders who kidnapped, presumably raped, and killed by ill-treatment his mother).


11 posted on 06/01/2005 10:48:07 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (Christ is Risen! Christos Anesti! Khristos Voskrese! Al-Masih Qam! Hristos a Inviat!)
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To: Dog Gone

Thanks; I was going to ask quidnunc to ping me when someone posted Steyn's essay. Thanks!

Dan


12 posted on 06/01/2005 10:48:10 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Crimson Elephant

You and me both. I cannot make it through one of them. There is nothing interesting there. I don't care about any of the characters.


13 posted on 06/01/2005 10:49:55 AM PDT by Taliesan (The power of the State to do good is the power of the State to do evil.)
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To: arkfreepdom

We're supposed to care about the dialog? All my kids want to see are people's limbs hacked off with lightsabers and the like.

Oh, I try to ruin it for them. In Episode II, I called whatever the clones flew in on "Huey's" and said they were carrying MG42's. Also said that they were going into a "hot LZ" with flak bursts around them.

I'm not sure if the rocket firing droids were supposed to be Wurfrahmen or Katyushas.

It's just a high-tech combo of "We Were Soldiers" and some History Channel footage of the Russo-German war. With bad dialog.


14 posted on 06/01/2005 10:51:40 AM PDT by henkster (When democrats talk of "the rich," they are referring to anyone with a private sector job.)
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15 posted on 06/01/2005 10:51:44 AM PDT by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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To: LS

Same here. Absolutely loved it. As for how "quick" Annakin converted to the dark side, I think in that split second where he impulsively attacked Mace Windu (for fear of Sidious' knowlege of how to save Padme being forever lost), that the floodgates just swung open and he was consumed. Had Windu been willing to take Sidious prisoner (not sure how THAT would happen!), then in my opinion he doesn't turn.


16 posted on 06/01/2005 10:52:18 AM PDT by The G Man (The Red States ... the world's only hope for survival.)
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To: Dog Gone

Thanks for posting the full article.


17 posted on 06/01/2005 10:53:58 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Send a message, defeat (Pat) Dewine this June 14, www.gobrinkman.com)
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To: js1138
All movies appear stupid to me, although some manage to be entertaining dispite their stupidity.

I agree. The older I get, the more I've become conscious that I'm just watching a prefabricated product.

it's got to be a hell of a film to take me to another place.

18 posted on 06/01/2005 10:56:01 AM PDT by zarf
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To: quidnunc
No real connection to the thread, but I just like posting htis:


19 posted on 06/01/2005 10:57:07 AM PDT by The G Man (The Red States ... the world's only hope for survival.)
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To: Dog Gone

I haven't seen the new movie, but I will. And I'm sure I'll like it. That being said, I would read a Steyn article trashing my mother, and laugh. He's that good.


20 posted on 06/01/2005 10:57:38 AM PDT by Freemyland
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To: The_Reader_David

"The Empire Strikes Back" rules over them all.


21 posted on 06/01/2005 10:58:13 AM PDT by ocr1
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To: Crimson Elephant
>I'll never understand the Star Wars thing

You say black I say white
You say bark I say bite
You say shark I say, "Hey man
Jaws was never my scene
And I don't like Star Wars!
"

You say Rolls I say Royce
You say God give me a choice
You say Lord I say Christ
I don't believe in Peter Pan
Frankenstein or Superman
All I wanna do is...

Bicycle bicycle bicycle
I want to ride my bicycle
I want to ride my bike
I want to ride my bicycle
I want to ride my--

Bicycle races are coming your way
So forget all your duties oh yeah!

Fat bottomed girls
They'll be riding today
So look out for those beauties oh yeah
On your marks get set go!


22 posted on 06/01/2005 10:58:20 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: arkfreepdom

I did like the movie, but the acting was a hoot! We laughed our way through many of the lines. However, it was fun, certainly not meant to be taken as serious theatre.

I do say that Anakin was not believable at all. He was a cute little kid and it ended there. I don't think I will be able to take Darth Vader seriously ever again!


23 posted on 06/01/2005 11:03:58 AM PDT by myrabach
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To: All
In case you missed it, in the wee small hours of the morning I posted a Steyn article from the NY Sun here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1414217/posts

24 posted on 06/01/2005 11:04:14 AM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc
‘If you’re not with me, you are my enemy.’ Uh-oh. Anakin seems to be transmogrifying into Darth W. Bush.

I've read that Lucas vented his anti-Bush opinions with this film. I don't plan to see it. The first two were good. The third, with the furry bears, was OK but not as good as the first two.

Lucas should've quit while he was ahead.

25 posted on 06/01/2005 11:06:25 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Deep Throat helped impeach a Pres and send others to jail. Sandy Bergler gets his wrist slapped.)
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To: The G Man

I always wanted to see Yoda, in this episode, saying "Many sequels I see. Much money we'll make. Toys there will be."


26 posted on 06/01/2005 11:07:02 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: The G Man

Spot on if you ask me!


27 posted on 06/01/2005 11:07:05 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: quidnunc

It was a good movie. Except that absolutes line ruined the scene. Not just because of my conservatism, either. The whole audience let out snickers and snorts of derision at this contradiction. It destroyed an otherwise moving moment.


28 posted on 06/01/2005 11:08:09 AM PDT by TeenagedConservative
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To: quidnunc; Bacon Man; Hap; humblegunner
Presumably actors say yes to Lucas because they figure Star Wars will do for them what it did for Harrison Ford. Instead, Lucas turns everyone he touches into Mark Hamill.

Ooooh, snap!
29 posted on 06/01/2005 11:08:33 AM PDT by Xenalyte (It's a Zen thing, you know, like how many babies fit in a tire.)
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To: quidnunc

I'll always like the bar scene in the first movie which I saw on my honeymoon.


30 posted on 06/01/2005 11:08:50 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Last Dakotan

No, b/c if Lucas does 7, 8, and 9, Hayden Christensen will be back as a Force Ghost (remember Obi Wan in episodes 5 and 6 after Vader already killed him), and likely since Alec Guiness is dead, so would Ewan McGreggor.


31 posted on 06/01/2005 11:09:12 AM PDT by Schwaeky (Attention Liberal Catholics---The Caffeteria is officially and permanently CLOSED!)
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To: Last Dakotan
Well, we'll never have to see Hayden Christensen in a movie again.

That's exactly what I thought about Leonardo DiCaprio after seeing Titanic.

32 posted on 06/01/2005 11:09:45 AM PDT by kaylar
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To: The G Man

Should read: Much sadness in you I sense.


33 posted on 06/01/2005 11:12:28 AM PDT by js1138 (e unum pluribus)
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To: theFIRMbss

Now get on your bikes and RIDE!


34 posted on 06/01/2005 11:13:12 AM PDT by Xenalyte (It's a Zen thing, you know, like how many babies fit in a tire.)
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To: ocr1

Agreed.


35 posted on 06/01/2005 11:13:56 AM PDT by Romish_Papist (The times are out of step with the Catholic Church. God Bless Pope Benedict XVI.)
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To: js1138

"The only movies I can watch more than once or twice are comedies, and darn few of them."

I know I'm crazy, but I've seen Groundhog Day dozens of times. Which is kind of ironic since the movie is about living a day over and over and over.


36 posted on 06/01/2005 11:14:04 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Semper Paratus
I'll always like the bar scene in the first movie which I saw on my honeymoon.

Coastie, we have to talk about priorities.
Navy ;)
37 posted on 06/01/2005 11:16:03 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (Warning: Frequent intelligent posts)
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To: Schwaeky
No, b/c if Lucas does 7, 8, and 9, Hayden Christensen will be back as a Force Ghost (remember Obi Wan in episodes 5 and 6 after Vader already killed him), and likely since Alec Guiness is dead, so would Ewan McGreggor.

I worry about you too, that you know this level of detail. ;)
38 posted on 06/01/2005 11:17:54 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (Warning: Frequent intelligent posts)
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To: marajade

ping


39 posted on 06/01/2005 11:20:40 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AD fan club: "Very well stated, AD." -- Diana in Wisconsin; "LOL!!!" -- MikeinIraq)
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To: prairiebreeze

Oh, see it.

C'mon, the Jedi were shown to be faux Zen Buddhists from the moment Yoda made his screen debut. Escape from the distinction between 'this and that' is Buddhist stock and trade. You expect them to go for sharp distinctions?

"If you're not with me, you're my enemy" is contextualized by Vader proposing to establish himself as Galactic Emperor, and Obi-Wan appealing to democracy. (If it represent Bush, it represents Bush dueling with himself, and whether you're for or against Bush's policies, the tension between the necessity of empire we've had post-9/11 and maintaining a democratic republic is worth thinking about, even if it's being called to mind by comic-book characters rendered larger than life on the big screen.)


40 posted on 06/01/2005 11:21:19 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (Christ is Risen! Christos Anesti! Khristos Voskrese! Al-Masih Qam! Hristos a Inviat!)
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To: eyespysomething
I agree. I loved this movie.

No one goes to Star Wars films expecting high art, and if they do, they deserve our pity and derision.

It was a big, goofy, loud epic filled with explosions, robots, sword fights and wookies. Considering what passes for so-called deep meaningful films these days, I'd take the comic book simplicity of Star Wars anyday.

I actually found the line, "You were like my brother!" very poignant, and it was delivered well by Ewan McGregor.

As my husband and I were leaving the theater, I cracked him up by saying, "FINALLY! A star wars movie with a happy ending. The dirty hippie peaceniks all die, and the grown ups take over..."

Again, I'm probably one of the few who actually sided with the Sith. I thought it was as good as Empire, which for me is saying a lot. Empire was the best of the original trilogy.

41 posted on 06/01/2005 11:24:18 AM PDT by RepoGirl (You can ban my rottweiler when you can pry her from my cold dead hands...)
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To: Kirkwood
I know I'm crazy, but I've seen Groundhog Day dozens of times

Thank God. I thought I was the only one.

42 posted on 06/01/2005 11:24:53 AM PDT by Horatio Gates (Mullah al-Whipple says,"Don't squeeze the Koran." Safe for septic systems.)
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To: quidnunc

These movies are space opera fantasy. They are part fairy tale, part serial camp adventure like the old flash gordon and buck rogers serials, part fireworks- ohhh ahhh special effects. They are for fun, good guys vs bad guys, shoot em up with "ray guns". Nothing more. They are not political commentary, they are not a religion. They are what they are. Fun. And if kids get excited about space travel because of it or learn that being a good guy is the right thing to do, then that is a bonus. If the lines are sappy, if they are campy, just enjoy the ride. I sure have.


43 posted on 06/01/2005 11:24:53 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Your review/opinion I like, see it Friday we will.

Just for the FUN of it.

44 posted on 06/01/2005 11:29:09 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Kirkwood
"I know I'm crazy, but I've seen Groundhog Day dozens of times. Which is kind of ironic since the movie is about living a day over and over and over."

Groundhog Day is terrific. The only movie I've seen more times is Office Space, because it was like my own life, over and over. . .


45 posted on 06/01/2005 11:29:42 AM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: Kirkwood
I know I'm crazy, but I've seen Groundhog Day dozens of times. Which is kind of ironic since the movie is about living a day over and over and over.

"This is pitiful. A thousand people, freezing their butts off, waiting to worship a rat. What a hype. Groundhog Day used to mean something in this town. They used to pull the hog out and they used to EAT it. You’re hypocrites. All of you! Am I upsetting you, princess?"

46 posted on 06/01/2005 11:33:46 AM PDT by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: The_Reader_David
Murdering Dooku on command, after amputating both his hands (George does have a thing about amputations), could also be an indication Anakin's headed for a name change. But, Lucas should have done a Jackson, and made the flick longer, so the interplay between Anakin's hubris, anger, concern for his wife, guilt over his violation of the Jedi rules, and what he sees as the Jedi's betrayal of those rules could have been developed more slowly. And, he should have had someone else write (and possibly direct)it, as he did in "Empire", the best of the six, and the movie that MADE the franchise.
47 posted on 06/01/2005 11:33:55 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Dog Gone
I enjoyed the first and second Star Wars but kind of lost track of the following episodes and didn't pay too much attention. When I heard this latest one was going to bring the story around full circle then I figured I'd tune in to see how they did that.

I think the reviewer was right for the most part. The opening few scenes were kinda hokey and the fight scenes with the funky looking soldiers getting sliced up with the light sabres seemed to be put together as an afterthought to kill some time. Alot of the dialogue sounded like a junior high school play. The original Star Wars (and Return of the Jedi) had a comic element that was intentional. This last one had a comic element also but I don't think it was intended.

But I do have a quick question. I thought in the original Star Wars (if I remember correctly), R2D2 and C3P0 were purchased from some traveling junked robot dealers. I didn't see how that gap was closed between Episode III and Episode IV. Anybody?

48 posted on 06/01/2005 11:34:30 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: The_Reader_David

In II, at the point where Anakin hunts the Tuskans, you can see his shadow has become Darth Vader. One of the few things in the movie not blasted into the obvious.

I know i am in the minority here, but I've always thought the Star Wars series truly great, although in many ways deeply flawed.

To me, the greatness lies in the theme (as I see it) - the fall, salvation, and redemption through love. The related tie in of good vs evil, in epic terms. That is why although it has new age overtones, Christians tend to react strongly to it.


49 posted on 06/01/2005 11:34:56 AM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: The G Man
Considering George's penchant for repeating themes, motifs and lines, I'd say he was gone when he murdered Dooku on command - which his son refused to do to him in "Jedi".
50 posted on 06/01/2005 11:36:13 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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