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King to push crackdown on illegal immigration (Steve King - IA "Put our military on the border.")
Gazette Online ^ | 6/3/2005

Posted on 06/03/2005 5:26:31 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak

Edited on 06/03/2005 5:32:39 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

DES MOINES, IA - Rep. Steve King, R- Iowa, called Friday for deploying the military to seal the borders against illegal immigration, coupled with new financial penalties for companies that hire illegals.

"The destination of America is going to be shaped alot by immigration policy," said King, who said he will introduce legislation "in the next several weeks."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Iowa; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrantlist; steveking
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To: Mr. Mojo

Aliens are a very important source of low cost labor for US employers. If this dingleheaded Congresman succeeds in cutting off the supply of cheap, hard working Mexican labor, inflation will result.

Frankly, this sounds left wing, insofar as it represents protectionism for US workers.

Remember, as Freepers, we beleive in free and open markets for goods, services, capital and labor.That is how economic efficency is generated.


21 posted on 06/03/2005 6:07:04 PM PDT by Teplukin
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To: Teplukin
Frankly, this sounds left wing

It appears you have your wings mixed up. Protecting our borders in a time of war and cutting off taxpayer benefits to non-citizens is about as far from "left wing" as can be imagined.

22 posted on 06/03/2005 6:14:36 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: rdb3
"As an Army vet, I'm against placing soldiers on the border because the Commander in Chief is the President. A change of the administration can easily remove our soldiers from there, and not even Congress could stop it."

Article I, Section 8, Clause 15

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions:

Article II, Section 2, Clause 1

The President shall be Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several States, when called into the actual service of the United States;

Now what is interesting is that Congress has to depend upon the President to sign the bill that they pass in order for it to become law.

The Congress can of course, override that refusal, and thus the President is "forced" to lead the "militia" as the Congress has ordered via their enumerated power.

His refusal may then be grounds for impeachment.

I hope this is reason for the legislation Rep. King as introduced. I have written my congressman 3 times and suggested the same.

23 posted on 06/03/2005 6:17:32 PM PDT by tahiti
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To: Teplukin

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24 posted on 06/03/2005 6:17:58 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: B4Ranch

You are off the Christmas card list too!!


25 posted on 06/03/2005 6:18:45 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
THANK YOU for linking to the Printer Friendly version of the article.

Those of us trapped in 56K dialup HELL really appreciate it!

26 posted on 06/03/2005 6:21:07 PM PDT by upchuck (If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak; Teplukin
lol.....you schizoid, Teplukin?

Or perhaps you've been "enlightened" by the pro-illegals crowd?

27 posted on 06/03/2005 6:21:29 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: rdb3
That number probably could be increased to 12-15,000 easily. The only concern I have about that is the union of the BP getting far too powerful. But I'll still take those short-term problems to increase border security and to keep soldiers off that border.

Trying to cover the borders is a fools errand. Slam a few employers - they're easier to catch.

Make about a half dozen examples in each industry & the rest will ge the message fast.

28 posted on 06/03/2005 6:26:30 PM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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To: upchuck

I try, doesn't work with every paper, unfortunately.


29 posted on 06/03/2005 6:27:53 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Teplukin
"[Illegal] Aliens are a very important source of low cost labor for US employers."

Will you ever learn the difference between legal and illegal aliens? Hint: Illegal aliens are a very big problem for America, something the pro-illegal alien lobby cares nothing about. Like you, all they want is cheap labor.

Meanwhile, the invasion continues and our schools, hospitals and infrastructure continue to deteriorate under the onslaught.

"Remember, as Freepers, we beleive in free and open markets for goods, services, capital and labor.That is how economic efficency is generated."

Remember, as Freepers, we believe in the rule of law. Loyal Americans insist on protecting American sovereignty, secure borders, and the preservation of American culture, customs, traditions and language. Those are our values.

Do you share those same values?

30 posted on 06/03/2005 6:29:59 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

If I shutup and donate the required amount, I can buy my way back on it.


31 posted on 06/03/2005 6:30:46 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: Mr. Mojo; Teplukin
You should really read some more Victor Davis Hanson, Teplukin.

Start with "Mexifornia". The followup will be "Connecticutexico"

32 posted on 06/03/2005 6:34:35 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Teplukin
Aliens are a very important source of low cost labor for US employers. If this dingleheaded Congresman succeeds in cutting off the supply of cheap, hard working Mexican labor, inflation will result.

What you describe is a Ponzi scheme. Ponzi schemes don't work. Ponzi schemes are destined to fail. There is only some many people that can inhabit a country. At the point of over population, what do you have? According to your theory, you have a country that's destined to fail.

Frankly, this sounds left wing, insofar as it represents protectionism for US workers.

Frankly speaking, and quite frankly, I am being frank, the protection of ones sovereign borders is not left wing.

Remember, as Freepers, we beleive in free and open markets for goods, services, capital and labor.That is how economic efficency is generated.

You confuse anarchy with what is our Constitutional Republic.

33 posted on 06/03/2005 6:38:55 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Teplukin
"Remember as Freepers..."

Frankly I'll do my own thinking. Our country is being looted and and the ride is almost over. Wide open borders have nothing to do with correcting it.
34 posted on 06/03/2005 6:57:00 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668)
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To: B4Ranch

I wish Rove would call ME. I could muster up some creative rhetoric to toss at him......some he would not soon forget.


35 posted on 06/03/2005 7:08:47 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Start with "Mexifornia". The followup will be "Connecticutexico"

As a CT resident :( .... I hear ya!


36 posted on 06/03/2005 7:13:10 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: rdb3
We tried to seal a 66 mile stretch of border in Operation Gatekeeper.

Double fences (some concrete and steel), guard towers, flood lights inferred cameras, ground sensors, patrol roads, horse patrols, ATV patrols, 16 helicopters, fixed wing aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles, trucks, and a ratio of 25 guards per mile were incorporated.

It was successful in reducing the number if immigrants crossing at that sector. Most just went further East to cross, but still about two hundred thousand are caught each year trying to cross, and another estimated 30 to 40 thousand make it across undetected each year. They dig under, climb over and break through the fences. That’s an average of 454 to 606 per mile per year.

Extrapolating the cost/benefit results of Operation Gatekeeper to the entire 105,000 mile coastline and land borders of the United States, these are the numbers I calculated.

At 25 guards per mile at $175,000 per guard, it would cost $459,375,000,000.00 per year and still 47,670,000 to 63,630,000 people could cross undetected into the U.S. each year.

Now I don’t claim that my numbers are precisely accurate. Some numbers, such as number of border jumpers are estimates, and other numbers are from newspapers instead of government sources. $175,000 per guard is what Congress budgets. If anyone has official numbers they wish to substitute I would welcome the corrections. (Any Congressman could request an estimate from the CBO if the magic fence idea wasn't such a joke to begin with)

37 posted on 06/03/2005 7:19:29 PM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


38 posted on 06/03/2005 7:22:32 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: bayourod

And would require 2.65 million guards.


39 posted on 06/03/2005 7:22:51 PM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: rdb3

The State Governors have the authority to place State Guard troops within 60 feet of the US/Mexico border anytime they roust up the courage.


40 posted on 06/03/2005 7:32:15 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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