Posted on 06/06/2005 10:50:27 PM PDT by scripter
Dr. Paul Cameron, President of Family Research Institute, a Colorado-based think tank, announced today that a new study on the life span of homosexuals will appear in a 2005 issue of the refereed scientific journal Psychological Reports (Volume 96: pp. 693-697).
This study provides additional evidence that the practice of homosexuality, with its attendant lifestyle, shortens the life of practitioners by about 20 years.
"Obituaries have indicated that gays seldom reach old age," Cameron said. "Indeed, gay obituaries suggest that engaging in homosexuality costs participants between 15 to 25 years of life, suggesting that homosexuality is more dangerous than smoking or being fat.
"Over 10,000 gay obituaries have been collected from homosexual publications. Are the obituaries listed in the gay press representative of gay deaths in general?" Cameron asks.
A new study that compared them with Centers for Disease Control data indicates they are.
The Washington Blade, a homosexual newspaper, has been the major homosexual paper used to track homosexual obituaries. So its obituaries for death due to AIDS were compared to AIDS deaths among males who had sex with males from the CDC for 1994 through 2000. Surprisingly, there was almost perfect correspondence. The effects of the new drug cocktails for AIDS were evident in both datasets. In 1994 the CDC put the average age of death by AIDS for homosexuals at 39, the Blade at 40. By 2000, the CDC reported the median age of death at 43 and the Blade at 42. Similar correspondences were noted for the 25th and 75th centiles of deaths.
The CDC reported that 9% of heterosexuals who died of AIDS were at least 65 years of age. But less than 4% of homosexuals and IV drug abusers who died of AIDS reached 65.
"These findings add substantial support to our previous findings," said Cameron, who headed the study. "While no one has all the facts on this issue, the CDC data is about as good as it gets. These data indicate that considerable progress in medically combating HIV is being made – its even affecting deaths from other medical causes. Right now, the median age of death for gays in the obituaries is running near 60 – about tied with the median age of death for lesbians. Of course, the median age of death for adults is about 80 – so the 20 year hit for engaging in homosexuality that we reported 15 years ago continues to hold."
The new study "Gay obituaries closely track officially reported deaths from AIDS" can be read in the scientific journal, Psychological Reports (2005;96:693-697).
Isn't that why he cross referenced the obituaries with the CDC statistics? He said they matched.
I have no idea whether this man's work is legit or not. Nor do I really care. It shouldn't be a huge shock to anyone that men who regularly engage in anal sex have health "issues".
ROTFLMAO!!!! Where did you find that photo?!
This is indeed key, unfortunately, many do not realize it. Homosexuals who take controlled substances and engage in homosexual sex are much more likely to get and share deadly diseases. While it's true for anybody who engages in the same behavior, it hits homosexuals harder than any other group.
LOL! Yeah, that's almost as bad as calling him a member of the ACLU.
If you parse what this misleading article says, you find that the CDC statistics are saying something completely different.
I think this whole thing can be summarized pretty simply: Gay men get AIDs at a higher rate than the population as a whole. Therefore, the average life expectancy for gay men, as a group, is going to be lower than the general population. However, this does not say much about the life expectancy of gay men who do not get AIDs.
So, if someone wants to argue that AIDs shortens life expectancy, that's a pretty big no-brainer. However, that does not really say anything about whether or not homosexuality, in of itself, lowers life expectancy.
Sounds like a good Master's thesis. The data are available.
Substitute 'smoker' for 'gay men' and 'lung cancer' for 'AIDS'. Would you still have the same concerns about the study?
They're both trolls, and I came back home early to have my time wasted thinking someone had the capacity to debate this stuff.
I'd laugh if the truth of it weren't so sad... I once heard a gay man who was dying of AIDS explain that being gay had nothing whatsoever to do with his imminent death because he didn't get infected from having sex, but from using a dirty needle.
been here a year and this guy is referring to me as a troll.
I don't see that. And other studies support Dr. Cameron. If the CDC stats don't support Cameron's study, what are they saying?
However, that does not really say anything about whether or not homosexuality, in of itself, lowers life expectancy.
What do you mean by homosexuality, in of itself?
Does smoking in general lower life expectancy? That is to say, do smokers who do not get lung cancer generally live shorter lives than non-smokers?
Being gay, engaging in homosexual sex, however you want to define it.
Very good point! LOL!
My point is that it doesn't matter what causes it. It's dangerous and unhealthy. I have no idea whether alcoholism is genetic, but I do know that it is also dangerous and unhealthy. There used to be a time when dangerous and unhealthy behavior was not celebrated simply because the people who engaged in it were "born that way."
Yeah, the alternative to living longer.
What Dr. Cameron appears to be saying is that homosexuals, male or female, die around age 60.
The title of his article in the referred scientific journal Psychological Reports is: Gay obituaries closely track officially reported deaths from AIDS. What that tells me is homosexuals die about the same age as anybody with AIDS.
The second sentence in the article says: This study provides additional evidence that the practice of homosexuality, with its attendant lifestyle, shortens the life of practitioners by about 20 years.. That doesn't say anything about AIDS.
We also learned back in the "olden days" that there were probably a fairly good per centage of people who were pretty asexual. These poor kids now have to declare themselves. Can't help but wonder if a lot of declared homosexuals and lesbians have been forced to adopt a sexual identity that they don't have and never did have. It stands to reason if they are not attracted to the opposite sex,and you force them to think about it too early,they probably imagine that they feel different and confused because they are homosexuals.
In times past they may have been the old maid aunts,who were often pretty and every one wondered why they didn't marry,maybe they just weren't interested. Or the bachelor uncles who went out drinking with the guys or went to the races,played sports and attended sports events with groups of friends.
Both sexes participated in book clubs and political activities,sometimes they took care of aging parents and/or helped their siblings with young children.
Now with all of our new found smarts we give them hype about feeling different,label them homosexuals,dose them with Viagra and Estrogen,medicate them with uppers and downers,send them to counseling and tell them to go out and enjoy life. Then we wonder why so many of them commit suicide,take illicit drugs,dabble in porn and seem unhappy.
I guess I am just and old fashioned,old lady,who believes that sex is not a life imperative and that God knew what He was doing when He created us,that He created us for a purpose and that too much "enlightenment" might just be sending a lot of kids down the wrong road.
Please know that I do understand that the above scenario does not account for even a large per centage of the homosexual population,but I would bet a lot of money that it accounts for many more than anybody conceives.
As I said, there were other reasons but I couldn't get them all. Still, I'm surprised with the findings.
Cameron listed off some of his credentials which I didn't get a chance to write down. Of his credentials he said something about being a reviewer for the British Psychological Reports (or some similar name). The Canadian Medical Association and others. I'll see if I can get more info.
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