Posted on 06/07/2005 4:51:37 AM PDT by Coop
Ok, thanks. The rest of the post, however, contained good info, and I hope I didn't ruffle any feathers by reposting the text.
Good analysis. At first, I was very upset but I felt that I would wait to see how it played out. So far, so good.
I knew that there would be hand wringing and threats of throwing the baby out with the bath water, but I don't subscribe to that outlook.
Keep the nominations coming like trying to drink water from a firehose.
Pelican Five
Um... it's only been two weeks since the infamous agreement, and I don't remember them getting beyond Owens. Then the Bolton mess came up and everything else has been back-burnered, it seems.
Scheduled for when?
The jury is still out on whether or not we "got what we wanted". Owen was a nice start. Brown will be even nicer. The fact that Frist still has the constitutional option in his back pocket is certainly encouraging. And yes, the Specter spectre is still an unknown, so maybe it's good that he wasn't put to the test of an actual vote on that option. However it's hard to avoid the strong suspicion that some of the gang of 7 may have cut side deals that will yet turn the wins on these few battles so far into a wider Republican defeat later on. So I'm neither warm nor fuzzy about this yet...
Well in my book, Frist just went up a notch, though I still think any hopes he had for the Presidency went down along with McCainiac's in that deal.
I'm really curious to find out exactly what Trent Lott was up to in the middle of all of this. I've seen and heard more than one report that he was working behind the scenes pushing the Gang of 7 in order to show up Frist and the President. Word is, he has delusions of resuming the Majority Leadership when Frist steps down next year. Personally, I'd prefer Mitch McConnell, as he's always struck me as a Tom DeLay type of leader.
Mr. FRIST. Mr. President, on Monday, June 6, the Senate will return from the Memorial Day recess and resume consideration of the nomination of Janice Rogers Brown for the DC Circuit. There will be no rollcall votes on June 6, but Senators are encouraged to come to the floor that day to speak on the Brown nomination.As a reminder, cloture was just filed on the Brown nomination and the nomination of William Pryor to the Eleventh Circuit. Thus, we will vote on the cloture motion with respect to the Brown nomination on Tuesday, June 7, at noon.
Given the agreement reached this week, I expect cloture to be invoked and hope that we can proceed to the confirmation vote on Judge Brown early Tuesday afternoon. I also would like to remind my colleagues that we have time agreements with respect to the nominations of Griffith, McKeague, and Griffin to the circuit courts, as well. It is my intention to move to these nominations at an early time, as well.
Finally, since we were unable to finish our work on the Bolton nomination to be ambassador to the United Nations, we will revisit this issue following the break, as well.
Wrong. History shows that ANY time there is a "compromise" (1850, 1991 budget deal) the winner is the one who gets ANYTHING tangible, regardless of the "principle" given up. Check it out: find me one "compromise" in Am. history where the winner got a principle. On the other hand, in the Comp. of 1850, the north got CA and the south got a promise to enforce the FSL. In 1991, the Dems got a tax hike for a promise to cut spending; and at Versailles in 1919, the Brits and French got tangible cuts in German arms in return for "promises" about "freedom of the seas" from Wilson.
Well put... amazing how many saps eat it up.
McCain is toast, but the story has yet to be written about Frist. His political future will hinge on the Supreme Court nominations. That fight will make the current one look like a practice game.
A big bunch of loony libs were on C Span last night lamenting Janice Rodgers Brown in great detail. They showed a long list of orgs that oppose Brown. Libs are hoping that Brown will be defeated by the Senate, but let's see what the Pubbies do.
Hey pal... I got some magic beans I 'wanna sell 'ya!
I forget exactly. I believe Brown is today and Pryor Thursday or Friday.
And to me that's perfectly understandable. It's the "This deal is a disaster for the GOP!" crowd that makes me weary.
And it's amazing how many times you can post without actually saying anything of substance.
No he didn't.
But from the article, he does now! That means that this was a masterful stroke for the conservatives inside the Party.
So, you're saying Frist won DESPITE not having the votes? I suggest you rethink your position.
Thanks for the ping. I'm uneasy that whenever something has to be explained why it's a good deal for us, that's it's not really a great deal. LOL
You're entitled to your own opinion... no matter which brand of rose-colored glasses you wish to wear.
You're not going to have votes on 10 judges in one day. Let's wait and see what happens. In my book, the situation is encouraging. We have three so far, Frist is not backing down, and DeWine/Graham are looking for the tall grass. They will not support the deal if another judicial fillibuster occurs. The Dems have been locked into citing "extraordinary circumstances" if they do fillibuster. Since simply being opposed to a nominee is not going to cut it, they will have a great deal of trouble making that argument stick.
Two weeks after the deal, I'd say we are in MUCH better position than we were two deals before the deal. The key is how much will Frist press the issue. I see no indication that he will not continue to press it.
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