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Who Ranks Best Behind The Wheel? Allstate Best Drivers Report Reveals Cities with Safest Drivers
Allstate (Business Wire via Google News) ^ | June 07, 2005

Posted on 06/07/2005 10:01:56 AM PDT by newgeezer

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To: JustRight
If Boston isn't on it, I don't believe it. You can get your butt kicked for Boston driving in the rest of the country.

From the article:

"Note: The Allstate data excludes cities in the state of Massachusetts, where Allstate Insurance Company does not offer insurance products."
Translation: Boston is so bad, Allstate refuses to sell insurance there. ;^)
41 posted on 06/07/2005 10:38:20 AM PDT by newgeezer (Drivers wanted. Automatics are for weenies.)
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To: newgeezer

Driving around Dallas ia a nightmare. If you go 10-15 over, you'll likely to get people trying to pass you on closing lanes and such.


42 posted on 06/07/2005 10:38:24 AM PDT by G32
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To: dirtboy

"I got rear-ended in Lakewood in 2001."

Oh Man.... I know this is off topic, but there's a Lakewood up here in the Cleveland area where that statement would have a whole different meaning!

Suffice it to say its kind of like the little San Francisco on Lake Erie.

Sorry...


43 posted on 06/07/2005 10:41:07 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Hi Heels
Glendale??? Go figure.

All I remember about Glendale is that the cemetery is a bona fide tourist attraction. :)

44 posted on 06/07/2005 10:44:28 AM PDT by newgeezer (Drivers wanted. Automatics are for weenies.)
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To: newgeezer

This data is close to useless because it is not normalized into the number accidents per mile driven. Instead, it is provided as the number of years between accidents. The problem is that those who live near big cities typically have much longer commutes and therefore will put on more miles per year - which increases their exposure and absolute probability of having an accident. The traffic density is also higher - which also increases the probability of accidents. In order to have a truly meaningful comparison, one must measure the number of accidents over an equivalent period of exposure (i.e., per mile driven).


45 posted on 06/07/2005 10:48:00 AM PDT by Zap Brannigan
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To: Mr. D
Last nite on the way home from work, I had a green arrow for a left turn, the driver coming the other way turned right and almost hit me!

Considering you had the arrow and he was turning right on red, he clearly should have yielded the right of way. But, if instead you both had the green light, and you each had a separate lane to turn into, if each of you had stayed in your own lane, it'd be no problem. But, I'm often amazed at how the right-turners in that situation seem to think they have the right to turn across both lanes.

46 posted on 06/07/2005 10:52:03 AM PDT by newgeezer (Drivers wanted. Automatics are for weenies.)
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To: newgeezer
Nashville, 23??????????? No way, I had two vehicles totaled in two years. One the other driver ran a red light, "T-boned" me and then backed up and took off. The second my car was parked and a woman got out of her car with the engine running and a kid in the car, the kid put the car in reverse and it hit my car.
47 posted on 06/07/2005 10:52:22 AM PDT by sticker
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To: newgeezer

They got one city correct as being the worse drivers, Philadelphia. They will literally run over pedestrians there. I know that for a fact.


48 posted on 06/07/2005 10:56:25 AM PDT by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: Zap Brannigan
This data is close to useless because it is not normalized into the number accidents per mile driven.

To the extent that accident insurance rates take into account where you live and drive, the data are quite useful for the purpose of setting those rates. For that purpose, there is no need to normalize for miles driven.

49 posted on 06/07/2005 10:57:06 AM PDT by newgeezer (Drivers wanted. Automatics are for weenies.)
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To: newgeezer

That's true - it is useful from an insurance perspective. However, people incorrectly view these results as somehow being indicative of the skill and quality of drivers in various cities (see above posts).


50 posted on 06/07/2005 10:59:29 AM PDT by Zap Brannigan
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To: sticker
Nashville, 23??????????? No way, I had two vehicles totaled in two years.

For everyone in Nashville with a story like yours there are n drivers who'll say Nashville is a safe place to drive. It averages out. It's not in the actuaries' best interest to underestimate the likelihood of an accident. ;)

51 posted on 06/07/2005 11:02:44 AM PDT by newgeezer (Drivers wanted. Automatics are for weenies.)
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To: newgeezer
"Drivers across Iowa, Tennessee and Colorado shine as the nation's safest, as two cities from each state rank among the top 10 with the safest drivers, according to the report."

I wonder why they ignored the fact that Alabama has two cities in the to ten too? (Birmingham & Huntsville)

52 posted on 06/07/2005 11:07:48 AM PDT by blam
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To: RebelBanker

3 of top 4 in DC metro area.
Why? Drivers from all over the nation, all with different driving customs, meeting in bad weather on choked-up roads typical of the northeast.
When it snows in DC, the Michigan-, New York- and Massachusetts- born drivers are doing 95 MPH while the Texas- and Florida- born drivers are doing 15 MPH on the same supercongested highways, as they weave across 8 lanes of traffic to move from the left-side entrance ramp to the right-side exit ramp.
For instance, on the beltway, you have to merge left six times just to stay on the damned highway.


53 posted on 06/07/2005 11:09:53 AM PDT by dangus
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To: newgeezer

xactly. Nothin' there, particularly......


54 posted on 06/07/2005 11:10:26 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Guns kill and cause crime? Dang, mine must be malfunctioning....)
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To: blam

It's hard to wreck your car when there's no-one to crash into. Comparing a congestion-choked, 12-lane, snow-clogged megahighway with anything in Huntsville is just plain silly.
And, yes, I know there are interstates in Huntsville, but it just ain't the same thing.


55 posted on 06/07/2005 11:12:01 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Hi Heels

LOL. I don't live in Phoenix (although I once did) or in Philadelphia, so I don't care who wins.


56 posted on 06/07/2005 12:06:07 PM PDT by marvlus
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To: newgeezer

bttt


57 posted on 06/07/2005 12:08:33 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: newgeezer

John Prine -- The Accident (Things Could be worse)

Last night I saw an accident
on the corner of Third and Green
two cars collided and I got excited
just being part of that scene

It was Mrs. Tom Walker and her beautiful daughter
Pamela, was driving the car
they got hit by a man in a light blue sedan
who had obviously been to a bar.

****

It was a four way dilemma
we all arrived the same time
I yielded to the man to the right of me
and he yielded it right back to mine
well, the yield went around and around and around
till Pamela finally tried
just then the man in the light blue sedan
hit Pamela's passenger side.

****

Pamela hit her head on the mirror
Mrs. Walker got a bump on the knee
the man hit himself in the face and said
"Why does this happen to me?"
the neighbors came out
and they gathered about
saying "Hey! who hit who anyway?"
and the police arrived at a quarter to five
and pronounced all the victims "Okay".


58 posted on 06/07/2005 12:18:25 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: martin_fierro
"...Jacksonville, FL. Some of the craziest driving I've ever seen occurred there."
Well, I'd say the same about Boston MA. There was a sign on NH border: "NH welcomes you. Please drive safely" - with someone spray-painting on it: "you are no longer in Boston".
59 posted on 06/07/2005 2:48:21 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: newgeezer

I'm surprised San Antonio is that safe. You routinely have to wait 5-10 seconds after your light turns green so that all the red-light-runners get through. I've never seen drivers as bad as San Antonio, and I've driven in Michigan, NC, DC, all around...


60 posted on 06/07/2005 3:29:42 PM PDT by MikeD (What if the family turned to Jesus/Stopped asking Oprah what to do)
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