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The ACLU is out of Control
nationalledger.com ^ | Jun 11, 2005 | Justin Darr

Posted on 06/12/2005 4:51:47 PM PDT by the anti-liberal

The ACLU is out of Control
by Justin Darr
Jun 11, 2005


For years the American Civil Liberties Union has pushed its agenda as to what the Constitution “really says,” and what freedom “really means” through judicial extortion. In 1978, the Supreme Court exempted the ACLU from the “ambulance chasing” prohibitions that apply to nearly every other lawyer in the country. Over the years this has enabled the ACLU’s legions of pro bono attorneys to specifically target various organizations they feel are vulnerable to their lawsuits, dredge the ranks of the “offended” until they can find someone who will agree to let the ACLU stick their name at the top of a case, and then attempt to force a group’s acquiesce to their demands by threatening a costly legal case they usually cannot afford.

Many who have dared to stand up against the ACLU might have won the battle in the court room, but lost the war as their organizations were driven into bankruptcy under crushing legal bills.

However, in the last few years the tide has started to turn. Alternate civil liberties groups, such as The American Center for Law and Justice, conservative radio commentators, and even some in the media, have drawn attention to the ACLU’s pattern of abuses, fanatic beliefs and outright hypocrisy. For the first time the ACLU is faced with legitimate public outcry over their tactics and slowly those who once would quietly give up their freedoms have been instilled with the will [and pro bono legal support] to fight.

In addition, despite the efforts of obstructionist liberals in Congress, the court system is being given a much needed infusion of new judges who recognize that their interpretation of the Constitution should in some fashion be similar to those who wrote it. The ACLU understands its days of forcing Christianity, traditional values, and freedoms out of American public life are numbered.

Out of a sense of desperation and frustration toward this new threat, the ACLU has recently begun to change the target of their court cases to include the leaders of public groups and the private individuals who are leading the charge against them.

The best known case involves popular talk show host Sean Hannity. While interviewing volunteers of the Minuteman Project last April in Arizona, Hannity inadvertently crossed the US/Mexico border for a few minutes then immediately returned. It was a simple mistake and easily understood in light of the pathetic security of our borders. However the ACLU, which led the good fight by trying to obstruct the Minutemen and goad them into conflicts while enabling the rampant invasion of illegals into our nation, decided this was an offense that could not be tolerated. Apparently upset at Hannity’s drawing interest to the good work of the Minutemen, Arizona State Rep. Kyrsten Sinema, under the auspices of the ACLU, demanded Hannity’s arrest.

It is quite obvious that Sinema and the ACLU were not motivated out of a sense of respect for immigration law or fairness, but out of personal hatred toward Sean Hannity. The ACLU does not like what Hannity has to say, so what better way to silence him than by having him embarrassed and thrown in jail. But this is a larger issue than just the ACLU trying to embarrass Hannity. It is indicative of a terrifying new trend from the ACLU where they are attempting to hold individual citizens legally liable for doing nothing more than thinking they are wrong. With large organizations starting to resist them, the ACLU must now found a new defenseless target unable to afford to fight them: private citizens.

There are several other cases in recent weeks which further illustrate this trend. In Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana, the ACLU has called for the arrest of school teachers and administrators because the ACLU does not feel they adequately exorcised all Judeo-Christian influences from their classrooms and cafeterias.

In San Diego the ACLU is suing five local personalities, including Rush Limbaugh sub Roger Hedgecock, because they do not like the wording they have chosen to represent the “Arguments For” section of a local ballot initiative to save the Mt. Soledad Cross. Who cares about freedom of speech and the right to voice your political opinions, the ACLU does not agree with it so it must be Constitutional to censor it. What is next? Arresting talk show hosts?

In the Keystone School District in Clarion County, Pennsylvania, even after the school board caved into the demands of the Pittsburgh ACLU, the ACLU is still suing the district because they felt that some in the community still “hoped” that there would be a prayer offered at the high school graduation. Suing a school district because some people in the community, who have no connection to the actual school district, “hope” something happens? Just what does that mean? Last time I checked “hoping” was still Constitutional. This case is nothing short of the ACLU trying to punish rank and file tax payers for not falling into line with its edicts. Just what will it take for the ACLU to feel adequately comfortable with the average citizen of Clarion County’s lack of hope at ever opposing the dictates of the ACLU? Will it be the ACLU individually suing every conservative American until we finally agree to live out our lives as Godless, Socialist drones, or would it just be Brown Shirts and Thought Police?

The ACLU is out of control. They can no longer even pretending to support freedom, the Constitution and Bill of Rights. What once may have been an organization dedicated to high ideals has now degenerated into a literal threat to our liberty. They are going beyond just trying to prosecute every Boy Scout troop and are now moving on to either sue people just like you and me, or actually have us arrested and subjected to criminal prosecution. How ironic it is that a group who thinks terrorists should not be in prison feels that those who disagree with them should. Sounds a little like the ACLU is no longer endorsing civil liberties but political prisoners.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aclu; aliens; churchandstate; crazy; extortion; insane; judicialextortion; lawsuits; left; liberal
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"Alternate civil liberties groups, such as The American Center for Law and Justice, conservative radio commentators, and even some in the media, have drawn attention to the ACLU’s pattern of abuses, fanatic beliefs and outright hypocrisy. For the first time the ACLU is faced with legitimate public outcry over their tactics and slowly those who once would quietly give up their freedoms have been instilled with the will [and pro bono legal support] to fight."

"Out of a sense of desperation and frustration toward this new threat, the ACLU has recently begun to change the target of their court cases to include the leaders of public groups and the private individuals who are leading the charge against them."

" Will it be the ACLU individually suing every conservative American until we finally agree to live out our lives as Godless, Socialist drones, or would it just be Brown Shirts and Thought Police?"

1 posted on 06/12/2005 4:51:48 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: the anti-liberal

The more we get this information out the better off the nation will be.


2 posted on 06/12/2005 4:54:02 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: satchmodog9
I most definitely concur!
3 posted on 06/12/2005 4:57:17 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (</liberal> It's time the left - left!!!)
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To: the anti-liberal
Read the Anti-Christian Liars Underground mission statement and what their beliefs are (I'm positive someone has a link). The ACLU is a Communist front organization and has been since its founding. Why else would Jimmy Carter have given their founder a Medal of Freedom?

The ACLU and the Traitor (DemocRAT) Party are a homegrown fifth column, and both must be exposed, and then eliminated. Period.

4 posted on 06/12/2005 4:58:14 PM PDT by Bombardier (Scratch a Democrat, find a traitor.)
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To: the anti-liberal
" Will it be the ACLU individually suing every conservative American until we finally agree to live out our lives as Godless, Socialist drones, or would it just be Brown Shirts and Thought Police?"

No, it will be the individual that will vote out every GOP senator and congressman that will not address the problem of taxpayers funding ACLU lawyers. This is more of a threat then not using the nuclear option.

5 posted on 06/12/2005 4:58:19 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: the anti-liberal
Last time I checked “hoping” was still Constitutional.

But evidently unacceptable.

6 posted on 06/12/2005 5:03:39 PM PDT by Blue Champagne
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To: Bommer
the individual that will vote out every GOP senator and congressman that will not address the problem of taxpayers funding ACLU lawyers

I understand and agree with this sentiment, however, if we were to be successful in doing so, we would be left with only the Democratic party and their anti-American, liberal left-wing nut jobs in government...

7 posted on 06/12/2005 5:03:40 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (</liberal> It's time the left - left!!!)
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To: B4Ranch

bonk.


8 posted on 06/12/2005 5:09:20 PM PDT by glock rocks ( There are not enough liberals in Utah to bother to appease. - Warren Keuffel)
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To: the anti-liberal

"ACLU, demanded Hannity’s arrest..."

Adolf Hitler would be proud.


9 posted on 06/12/2005 5:09:40 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Bommer

Also, and this is just my opinion, the process is too slow, and concurrently with the process ('intimidation' through the vote) we need an intense PR campaign against the ACLU that will effectively educate the public about the dangers of the various socialist activist organizations (of which the ACLU is just one).


10 posted on 06/12/2005 5:12:56 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (</liberal> It's time the left - left!!!)
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To: the anti-liberal

The AMAZING thing about the ACLU's suit to get the cross down from Mt. Soledad in San Diego is that well known broadcast personalities have been named by the ACLU in that suit, including KOGO-AM's Roger Hedgecock, KFMB-AM's Rick Roberts, AND THE NEWEST MEMBER OF THE ANNOUNCER'S WING OF THE BASEBALL HALL OF FAME, San Diego Padres Announcer and World War II pilot hero Jerry Coleman!

IT IS HIGH TIME TO BORROW TOM DELAY'S EXTERMINATION TACTICS AND USE THEM ON THE AMERICAN COMMUNIST LAWYERS UNION, STARTING WITH TAKING AWAY THEIR TAX-EXEMPT STATUS!


11 posted on 06/12/2005 5:17:07 PM PDT by HARBER (CBS=COMMUNIST BROADCAST SCUMBAGS!)
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To: HARBER
STARTING WITH TAKING AWAY THEIR TAX-EXEMPT STATUS

Is there an actual and valid process whereby this can be done?

12 posted on 06/12/2005 5:21:06 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (</liberal> It's time the left - left!!!)
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To: Bombardier; the anti-liberal
The ACLU is a Communist front organization and has been since it's founding. I expect that you well know of the following corroboration. I had mentioned the information previously. Herewith.

"Congressional Record-- A34-A35. January 10,1963. Hon. A.S. Herlong,Jr of Florida. House of Representatives. An excerpt from THE NAKED COMMUNIST. By W. Cleon Skousen. It notates the 45 goals of the Communist Party of America.

Any Freeper who has not read the 45 goals as designated by W. Cleon Skousen, try to peruse it. Google will get" The Naked Communist". They, ACLU, are half way there. Much of Canada has surrendered- sorry to say.

P.S. Oh boy, just hit on a real item in my own mind. Bringing to mind one W.Mark Felt,formerly FBI second in command- now 90 years old. Mr Skousen is about 90 years old also He was the Director of Information within this same FBI.

Maybe he is the REAL hero.

13 posted on 06/12/2005 5:33:09 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Peter Libra
I saved this from another thread and neglected to include the attribution (sorry). In light of your statements concerning The Naked Communist, I think this is apropos:

Many know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Recently there was an immigration-overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor named Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

1. "Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bi-cultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual.

"The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: 'The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

2. Lamm went on: "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

3. "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.'"

4. Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

5. "Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

6. "My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

7. "My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other."

"A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshiped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to over come two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- >From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'unum,' we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

8. "Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits ~ make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate."

"Having made America a bilingual/bi-cultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

9. In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.'

American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

Governor Lamm, walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.

14 posted on 06/12/2005 5:44:06 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (</liberal> It's time the left - left!!!)
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To: Jay777

aclu ping


15 posted on 06/12/2005 5:45:19 PM PDT by WarPaint (Crush Islam)
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To: the anti-liberal
"The ACLU is out of Control"

I hereby nominate that title as understatement of the year.... decade maybe.

16 posted on 06/12/2005 5:45:32 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Getting old is NOT for sissies.... trust me, I know!)
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To: the anti-liberal
Solid hit by former Governor of Colorado.

Briefly, He sure said a mouthful.

Private mail for you.

17 posted on 06/12/2005 5:59:59 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: the anti-liberal

With regards to Claire Wolfe: it's time.


18 posted on 06/12/2005 6:33:22 PM PDT by Noumenon (Activist judges - out of touch, out of tune, but not out of reach.)
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To: the anti-liberal

Time to burn their homes to the ground and drive them and their families into the wilderness. Believe me, they've got far worse in mind for the rest of us. History is my witness.


19 posted on 06/12/2005 6:35:22 PM PDT by Noumenon (Activist judges - out of touch, out of tune, but not out of reach.)
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To: Noumenon

Eco-terrorism; ELF, ALF, PETA... what you fear is already here.


20 posted on 06/12/2005 6:40:02 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (</liberal> It's time the left - left!!!)
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